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Old 08-03-2008, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by nangoushuujin View Post
Id like to think that you can see some evidence of spirit in any Karate dojo, anywhere all the time. Because one important meaning of Spirit is simply people pushing themselves beyond their personal limits by using their mental and physical strength. If this is your definition then nothing has changes between then and now.

As I read it this is exactly what Lonewolf was getting at and agree with your description of Spirit but disagree that nothing has changed as I have, over the years seen and trained in many, dare I say the majority? of dojo's where people are not pushed or pushing themselves.

Spirit to me is an internal strength and even when I trained in such environments I still pushed myself, to this end I think it is the individual who has to attain Spirit rather than the dojo, yes it is easier in a committed dojo as it goes without saying that such environments naturally push and lift you as in Nangoushuujin's example but even in a Mcdojo you can still train hard, you can still be the best you can be, who knows you may even bring out the spirit in the rest of the group.
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