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Originally Posted by tmd
IMO Kyokushin is to Karate what Jujitsu is to Judo - the same basis but a bit more full on  just my opinion but I've looked at scores of different Martial Arts over the last 20 odd years, trained in about 10 gone to about 4th - 1st Kyu level in 5 of them. Whenever we do free fighting what seems to work for me best is a mix of my Jujitsu and Kyokushin. But as ever and as you have already stated it's more about the Sensei and the DOJO than the style - best of luck and please feel free to remaining part of our virtual dojo if you happen not to chose a Kyokushin path at this time you opinions are still just as valid.
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In my opinion, the analogy kyokushin/karate = jujitsu/judo is misleading because judo is the sport version of jujitsu while kyokushin is a sport karate style among others. On the other hand, some people still study and practice koryu jujitsu, so the karate equivalent would be some people that still practice some form of old karate (toudi) that still keeps the old ways (hard conditioning, strong sparring, joint locks, throws, etc). Note that by modern karate I include "traditional karate" as well as "hard contact karate". So maybe the ancestor of modern karate may fulfill those requirements:
jujitsu/judo = toudi/karate
So the next question would be: what karate dojo practices hard contact sparring, throws, sweeps, strikes, kicks (specially low kicks), kanzetsu geri, headbutts, hard body conditioning, joint locks (to submission or to break). There are some dojo where you can find it all, but they are not going to teach it to you right away. And they are very few.
So I would check the kyokushin dojo and the goju dojo. Since it is easier to know what to expect from a kyokushin dojo, I would have a long talk with the goju instructor explaining exactly what you want, so you know if that goju dojo is what you are looking for. Some goju ryu dojo practice hard core sparring and you wouldn't regret join them.