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Old 08-14-2008, 08:11 AM
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I almost wish I had your sense of fatalism, ShinobiJesus, but I see it differently. The vast majority of people wouldn't know the difference between one school and another, but when they're tripping over miniature BB left and right, they think that this is the accepted standard.
isnt it though? the standard. not for our styles or organizations but for others it is. the differences in styles and organizations are so vast we cant hold one to the same standards as another.

btw, i actually dont think its the standard of anything. youre kind of using a hyperbole there but its cool.

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With all the McDojo, the Real Dojo will be squeezed out, not least due to the cost of running a Dojo. Rent costs money. Electricity costs money. Transport to and from training costs money. Affiliation and other organization fees cost money.
this is always a risk a Real Dojo takes. its harsh but its what happens when you want to open a dojo. a lot of business elements come into play. then Real Dojo can either give up and close shop or walk a fine line and "play the game" just a little. i admit ive seen very few places make this work.

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Real Dojo may move to training in the park, or at a private residence. How does this enable the potential student with the right attitude to find it? Who will carry the torch for the next generation?
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the ones who are truly dedicated will find the right place and carry the torch. in TRKs thread about different styles i mention a dojo i thought i was going to be at. it was in a refurbished barn in the woods on the property of the guy that owned it behind his house. i drove around for an hour and a half just to find it.

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I know we're getting off topic a bit here, but I think that this is the big underlying question. Why not give out the grades for a song? Why should we have standards? If we answer those questions, we may also have answered their opposites.
we have to have standards, they are a starting point and let you know whats ahead. like a syllabus. however that doesnt mean we need to justify a zero tolerance policy to uphold them. zero tolerance doesnt work because its not applicable to the real world.

heres a flawed example just cause its running through my mind at the moment - the speed limit. the speed limit means everyone cant go faster than that right? but its just a sign. it doesnt actually affect the vehicle you are travelling in. take cops out of the equation and people would use it as a guideline and travelling speeds would vary. some people are better at driving fast and can go faster while some people realize the wisdom in not rushing and abide by it or go slower. true there would be, and are today, people who suck at driving and go faster than they should. thats their own mistake.

i realize youre worried about how the martial arts community is represented but theres just not much you can do about stories like this kids. the only thing we can do is keep doing our best for ourselves and hope we serve as examples to those in our dojos to keep the dojo reputation strong. notice how theres usually die-hards that show up religiously while over time everyone else is transient? core students are meant to be.

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