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Old 08-21-2008, 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by seienchin View Post
And chatting about the hunk at the gym is very different to talking about someones lifelong friend/teacher! That to me is the distinguishing feature. If a group of women HAD done that, I doubt anyone would be saying it is OK. It would be lewd, disrespectful, and demeaning to both the participants and the target of their attentions.
Dear seienchin,
If the identity of the person being discussed (a lifelong friend/teacher) is what makes the difference, then we have to think how much this fact is made known to the others. If some women are to talk about a "hot yoga guru" at the gym I guess they have to make sure whether he is someone's lifelong friend/teacher. To me a Kyokushin Shihan deserves no more respect than a gymnastics coach. But I will not bow in Kyokushin style to a gymnastics coach as gymnastics means nothing to me. On the other hand I do not expect a gymnast to bow to a Kyokushin Shihan. But I think in the situation between discussed, predatory comments against another gender, if any, will be enough to bring about warnings or even legal actions. Whether that person carries special meaning or not should mean little in the court.

Dear Gar23,
May I know how much you think those co-workers know about the special meaning of your instructor and Kyokushin to you? In your first post you said the comments were "too disrespectful to Kyokushin to state". You did not state the incident as first and foremost a case of gender discrmination, and it made me wonder how much did the insult of "a respected figure from childhood" contribute to your resentment?

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