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01-11-2010, 06:18 PM
Hey i was just wondering what is the normal range of fees for a dojo membership for general karate or kyokushin considering 3 days a week etc. Is 120$ per month a lot?
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View Full Version : typical membership fees netsecure 01-11-2010, 06:18 PM Hey i was just wondering what is the normal range of fees for a dojo membership for general karate or kyokushin considering 3 days a week etc. Is 120$ per month a lot? netsecure 01-11-2010, 06:19 PM in US i mean Ros 01-11-2010, 06:25 PM It sounds quite a lot to me, but then our fees are very reasonable! If you break it down to around $30 per week, that's about $10 per class, which doesn't sound too shocking does it? Do you think your classes are worth that? Dent 01-11-2010, 06:52 PM Osu! I attend two Dojo for my own training, and it's $20 per class for each of those. I don't have the same number of classes, thanks to my own Dojo and the time/ distance to travel. If I had to pay that as a monthly fee, it would be double yours. Add in travel and food and this is an expensive activity. Even without the ice cream suits and hospital fees... Osu! Minas 01-11-2010, 06:53 PM To me it sounds a lot. I pay 20€/month; 2 classes per week and once per year 25€ insurance. For the more months you pay in once, the cheaper it gets. My previous dojo was 150€/year, 3 trainings per week. The most expensive dojo nearby I know of is 40€/month, they train 3 times per week I think. So compared to those prices that dojo you mention is expensive. jcarmello 01-11-2010, 07:03 PM Sounds reasonable to me!! Is it a privately run school or held at a community center/school? ashiharakaicho 01-11-2010, 07:29 PM I teach karate professionally (since 1985) and often people are amazed at the fees I charge and the fact that I have been able to afford a pretty decent lifestyle. My fees range from R25 to a maximum of R100 per month (US$3.40-$13.58) - at our creche & school dojo, classes are once a week, but students can come and train at our Honbu at no further charge. The Honbu has 3 training days with 4 sessions and often students train in more than one session. On Friday's we have extra classes at my house. Again in South Africa this is considered extremely cheap - but I make up by having numbers. The financial meltdown and the economy being down has not affected me- I actually gained more members than many of my colleagues who complained how their membership dropped. bobh 01-11-2010, 08:58 PM [...] Do you think your classes are worth that? Is it just me or do you sound like Gary Sensei? bobh 01-11-2010, 09:01 PM Doesn't sound too bad for Chicago. Are the facilities nice? training good? People? Osu! GJEC 01-12-2010, 07:53 AM Is it just me or do you sound like Gary? LOL I hope not! I like training Ros and Monty (and the others) but hope I don't turn them into clones that think like me. (They wouldn't want to be old and grumpy would they ;):)) Gary Ros 01-12-2010, 07:59 AM Is it just me or do you sound like Gary Sensei? Stop it now, bobh. We'll have less. :D:D that1guy 01-12-2010, 08:06 AM in general, for Chicago, and the amount of classes per week I would say it is a pretty good price. Now it is just down to the instructor/people in the dojo..... I am currently living in England and paying about 8 dollars per class (5pound), twice a week (been as high as 10.80 based on exchange rates since I get paid in dollars, but that is neither here nor there...I still find it well worth it) jcc 01-12-2010, 01:41 PM LOL (They wouldn't want to be old and grumpy would they ;):)) Gary Osu! Gary, You mean like this (I could see you in this part): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIb7ftGN2u0&NR=1 :D OSU-EN2 bobh 01-12-2010, 03:58 PM LOL I hope not! I like training Ros and Monty (and the others) but hope I don't turn them into clones that think like me. (They wouldn't want to be old and grumpy would they ;):)) Gary hahaha Well, ironically, it's the act of encouraging people to think for themselves that I noticed. So, if you were to pick one regard in which to "think like Gary," it'd be to "think for yourself!" Osu PS. Ros, you can still be grumpy too if you'd like. ;-) Thunar 01-12-2010, 04:28 PM It dependes of the quality of your training. f the trainning is good, ok $ 120 is reasonable, if the training is not good even $1 is too much. I pay about US$ 40 for my Dojo per month, it is really cheap even for brazilian standarts, but the trainning is excelent (I just don't know how my sensei can survive!!! lol)...many dojos/gyms for rich people may charge you up to US$ 200 or US$ 300...and most of then are just Mac Dojos. ..............I don't know.......it all depends of the trainning quality. I think that US$ 120 for a good dojo in US is not expensive. Osu! Gurra5 01-12-2010, 05:31 PM I pay 145$ for a year and then i have access to the dojo 6 days a week. OSU! Ros 01-12-2010, 05:32 PM hahaha Well, ironically, it's the act of encouraging people to think for themselves that I noticed. So, if you were to pick one regard in which to "think like Gary," it'd be to "think for yourself!" Osu PS. Ros, you can still be grumpy too if you'd like. ;-) Oh well, in that case I don't mind! Grumpy? I don't do grumpy. Oops, I forgot that Monty's on here now. OK, I'll admit to the occassional bit of grumpiness. :D Kelvin 01-12-2010, 05:54 PM My private class charges $50 ( Singapore Dollars ) per month, about US$35 for 2 session a week. Very cheap. And classes run in the community center are going at only S$90 per month for 24 sessions and the center take 35% of it. Which break down to S$2.43 per session the instructor take. So teaching fulltime in Singapore can never support a family, is just a passion for karate only. powerof0ne 01-12-2010, 06:00 PM My private class charges $50 ( Singapore Dollars ) per month, about US$35 for 2 session a week. Very cheap. And classes run in the community center are going at only S$90 per month for 24 sessions and the center take 35% of it. Which break down to S$2.43 per session the instructor take. So teaching fulltime in Singapore can never support a family, is just a passion for karate only. In the US I believe it's very hard to make a living off of full time teaching unless you want to charge a lot of money for tests, tuition, crazy programs, private lessons, etc. Also known as being a "McDojo" ;) I've only known a few instructors in the US that make a good living off of teaching full time without being a McDojo and only one of these instructors hasn't created a world champion or isn't one himself. What I'm saying is, it helps to be a well known fighter or to have created a lot of known fighters (common sense..to me anyway) if you want to make a full time living. However, I also know from experience some of the best fighters are horrible instructors! Unfortunately, I believe teaching quality martial arts and getting paid a good living for it is almost impossible due to "conflicts of interest". Osu! GJEC 01-12-2010, 07:50 PM :D You've got me all wrong jcc!! Victor Meldrew is far more polite than I am ... ;) Gary bobh 01-12-2010, 08:41 PM I pay 145$ for a year and then i have access to the dojo 6 days a week. OSU! And is any part of your training or dojo supported by the good tax-paying citizens of your country? DrPhil 01-12-2010, 10:03 PM I pay 200 euros (about $300) a year for 4 sessions per week. But my club isn't a commercial structure. The dojo is provided (for free) by the city and is shared with ju-jitsu and judo clubs. A portion of the fee goes to the french karate federation and insurance. The rest goes to the club and is used to pay the instructor, equipment, belts, traveling expenses for competitors... The instructor doesn't make a living with karate. I think he earns about 300 euros a month. This kind of organization is the norm in France (and other european countries). When i was training in Manhattan, I think it cost about $120 a month (plus grading fees and some constraints). At first I thought it was over expensive. But it was actually a good deal. Great instructors, several sessions a day all year long, decent infrastructure. jcarmello 01-12-2010, 10:15 PM As a 9 year old I trained in an ambiguous Karate style for 6 mos after school in the gym - no cost. Kempo - TKD (Queens NY) in the 1980s - $15.00 per month Shorin Ryu - (NC)1980s $25.00 month Shotokan - (NC) Donation what ever you could manage! Sambo-Grappling B.S.! (NJ) Rip off - $120.00mo 1 day per week! Kyokushin - (NJ) 3 years ago - $150.00 mo. unlimited training(averaged 3-4 days per week.) Kung Fu (NJ) Last year $90.00 mo. (3 days per week) ambiguous! Some interesting techniques!! Kyokushin current - NJ - $60.00 per month 2-3 days per week (Currently 2 days) Private lessons with Shihan J.P. Whatever you donate for his travel! T.K.D. (NY) Where some of my children train ($165.00 mo unlimited and Masters class) Although there is currently only a charge for Dan testing but that will be a couple of years for the next one for my son. powerof0ne 01-12-2010, 10:24 PM Sambo-Grappling B.S.! (NJ) Rip off - $120.00mo 1 day per week! T.K.D. (NY) Where some of my children train ($165.00 mo unlimited and Masters class) Although there is currently only a charge for Dan testing but that will be a couple of years for the next one for my son. Sounds like a fair TKD dojang! I know of some people charging an arm and a leg to get certs from the Kukkiwon (WTF style). This is why you can see so many "fake" kukkiwon certs being sold in various places do to the cost of real ones. I'm not a TKD practitioner but some of those "fake" kukkiwon certs look pretty legit to me. As a general rule with Sambo (I did say general :P), if you're learning from a person that is a sambo "black belt"/2nd dan/3rd dan etc. You better do some serious research because majority if not all legit sambo does not utilize dan ranking :) I think it's something like a masters of sport certificate from Russia is a pretty good way to judge legit sambo. That and is the person any damn good, too? I think Dent could post some pics of himself in a kurtka and give us the lowdown on this better then I can! Osu! jcarmello 01-13-2010, 12:32 AM My sons 1st Dan training cost me quite a few hundred $700?? I dont recall but I remember when they told me the cost I put my hands in the air like I was being "held up". Non of the Korean Masters understood, but the one old Jewish Master laughed so hard he had tears in his eyes. But he is registered with kukkiwon and has an picture I.D. as well. As for the "shmucks" I trained with, a couple of them were firefighters from Jersey City who proclaimed to be "gearing up to compete" and go MMA. I had very little training other then public grade school wrestling. The instuctor was a good guy I met in Queens, NY on a Job site. He didnt have any control over the students and the brash attitude of these guys only fired me up. When I got into a scrap with one of the bothers on the mats the other one jumped out and kneed me in the back, then all hell broke loose and I got the worst of it in the end, although it was funny to see them sweaten it when the three of us were seperated. I went back 2 more times and it became about when the next 2 on 1 brawl was going to be and alot of hard feelings. So I went on to Kyokushin with a taste of Judo added in and never looked back. But yes, it would have been nice to understand what the certs were for any of these folks. Not sorry for the experience though. Dent 01-13-2010, 04:17 AM Osu! I think Dent could post some pics of himself in a kurtka and give us the lowdown on this better then I can! I think PowerOfOne has been at the Red Bull again. ;) I did train with Dashgombo Battulga, who had some of the most painful classes I've taken. I'll put it down to the language barrier... :rolleyes: I think he was a Yondan in Judo and a Master grade in Sambo. Grading was never discussed, and we were just there to train. This gym has just opened down the road from me though: http://www.zealousnationmma.com/home.html They seem legitimate, so I will have to visit. Osu! powerof0ne 01-13-2010, 04:40 AM Osu! I think PowerOfOne has been at the Red Bull again. ;) I did train with Dashgombo Battulga, who had some of the most painful classes I've taken. I'll put it down to the language barrier... :rolleyes: I think he was a Yondan in Judo and a Master grade in Sambo. Grading was never discussed, and we were just there to train. This gym has just opened down the road from me though: http://www.zealousnationmma.com/home.html They seem legitimate, so I will have to visit. Osu! Looks like a good Sambo school! You get all the luck :P Osu! Dent 01-13-2010, 04:46 AM Osu! Looks like a good Sambo school! You get all the luck :P I sure do! :D Osu! Kyu_7_Romania 01-19-2010, 11:23 PM I pay 25 euro a month for up to 4 sessions a week. This is like 450 USD a year. Seems a fair price to me. Osu-EN1 pandorasvise 01-19-2010, 11:41 PM I am paying $100 US a month and $40 a month for each family member and it is classes 5 days a week if I want them. tkz 01-20-2010, 12:03 AM £2 a session 2 sessions a week £4 a week £208 a year Kyu_7_Romania 01-20-2010, 12:03 AM and where are you based, pandorasvise? pandorasvise 01-20-2010, 12:40 PM Maine USA Nix 01-20-2010, 02:35 PM Adults at our school pay 98 USD per quarter, for three lessons a week, plus free access to the school five days a week. New members and children pay less. The reason why it's so cheap, is partly because all work is voluntary; none of the instructors or board members are being paid, so we only have to cover the bills. Also: How much do you pay for monthly dues to your dojo? (http://kyokushin4life.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1271) Structure of Dojo Training Fees (tp://kyokushin4life.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8811) |