how much do/can you run?

[netsecure]

I run 1.3-1.5 miles at a time 3 days a week(before classes) with 6 mph speed on a thread mill. I am going to extend this to 3 miles. How much is considered good?? When i started i could only go 1 mile with 5 mph speed. how much do you run

[Godai]

How much is considered good??

That depends on your goals? To run a race? A marathon? General fitness? It all depends. For general fitness it isn't about how much but more about heart rate. Raising your HR to your target zone for 30 minutes per day would be good no matter how you do it. But then again you could spend less time and get more bang for your buck doing interval training for 10 minutes with the same or better results. Again, it depends on what you are trying to accomplish.

There are 15 minute miles which are average and then there are 9 and 10 minute miles which are good and then there are the 8 minute miles which are very good. Below that and I'd say you are in great athletic condition. But again....for what? To be a runner? Is the running just because you like running or is it because you want to improve your fighting or karate? If it's the latter then there may be better ways.

[powerof0ne]

I used to run quite a bit but I was never a marathon runner, meaning the most I'd run at one time was 7-9 miles.

BTW, I never liked running long distances but it became a necessity I adapted to the best I could.

If you run 1.5 or more miles 3x a week I think you're alright as long as you keep that up. You also have to be careful with running too much getting shin splints, knee problems, back problems, etc.

My younger brother does marathons and half marathons but has a weird knee problem. Kicking (practicing most martial arts) and riding a bike gives him problems but he can run all day.

These days I do a recumbent stationary cycle of about 15-25 miles at a time depending on how I'm feeling. I skipped today so 25 is what I must do tomorrow..."joy".

Hopefully a certain coworker of mine doesn't decide to do the stationary bike next to me again while reading and doing paperwork..damn show off was on his cross country team for University of Hawaii on scholarship. I hate him :D!!!! I'll ask him how much he used to run and how often.

My opinion is that running is good but good in moderation. Meaning you can definitely overdo it but 1.5-3 miles three times a week shouldn't do you too much harm unless you already have preexisting injuries....or bad shoes. Make sure you get GOOD shoes to run in. I'm not joking, it makes a huge difference. Check out running websites like www.runnersworld.com and take a look at the shoe finder to find the right "fit" for you.

Doesn't mean you have to buy the flashiest nike air max 360 (which I own for going out in not running in) or the cheapest shoe but good shoes for running are usually made by asics, mizuno, adidas, saucony, etc. Nike does make a few good running shoes but more bad ones then good ones.
p.s. Nike is my favorite brand of shoes to buy btw...but to actually run in, no way.
Osu-EN1

[sandman]

I agree with Godai. If you are running to improve cardio for fighting you are better off with shorter high intensity sessions - sprints, hill sprints, interval training, etc...

[Dent]

Osu!

I don't run. Who wants to die tired? :D

Osu!

[netsecure]

Hi, running for karate!! for martial arts!! to become a fighter and not get winded or loose stamina while sparring.

[Nix]

I run 2400m in roughly eleven minutes, which is not particularly good. I am aiming for the ten minute mark, but I haven't been running lately due to a strange ankle injury (some times it just buckles under my massive 65 kg, and I fall face first).

The 2400m is part of a stamina test that I need to pass, and it has to be under twelve minutes (after intensive pad work). I believe it was initially chosen, because it's just a little bit longer than a tournament fight and two extensions. It's fitting for knockdown practice, although I wouldn't want to run longer than this.

I loathe running, and consider it a necessary evil. I prefer hill sprints or stair running to actual running.

[Dent]

Osu!

I haven't been running lately due to a strange ankle injury (some times it just buckles under my massive 65 kg, and I fall face first).

Does this happen after a lot of elbow lifting and wrist tilting? :confused:

I understand that these joints are connected.

:D

Osu!

[Nix]

Does this happen after a lot of elbow lifting and wrist tilting? :confused:How did you know? :rolleyes:

[Dent]

Osu!

How did you know? :rolleyes:

It sounds like an ailment I have. Terrible how these things can affect innocent people worldwide. ;)

Osu!

[polarbearfighter]

I don't run often. Only when I feel that I want to run.
I ran 3 km yesterday ca 13:30 min.

A few months ago I made an attempt to run regularly but it resulted in severe knee pain.
It is first now that I can run more than ca 1000m without feeling the knee pain, so I think I will stay with distances close to 3km for a while.

Often when I run, I try to vary the speed. I run for a while rather fast and get my pulse really high, then I run slower for a while to get my pulse down, and then speed up again and repeat. I do that to make it somehow closer to interval training.

[powerof0ne]

Osu!

I don't run. Who wants to die tired? :D

Osu!

You used to run!

My coworker told me he ran 75 miles a week like it was as easy as taking out the trash. He did this for years. Since he's a little older now he doesn't run as much but no doubt he could easily out run me.

Osu!

[netsecure]

how much do i need to run for karate? improving sparring stamina, etc?

[sandman]

10 or 15 minutes of high intensity interval training 2 or 3 times per week should do it. The key is intensity.

Here are a few drills you can try:

Set the timer for 10 minutes and run as many 100 yd sprints as you can.

Set a timer to beep every 30 seconds. For 2 minutes, alternate 30 seconds of sprints with 30 sec of jogging or walking. Do 4 - 6 rounds. When that gets easy, go to 3 minute rounds.

Sprint 50 yards, then do 30 seconds of shadowsparring. Walk back and repeat 4 - 6 times. Rest and then do another 4 - 6 rounds.

Those are just a few ideas - there are plenty of alternatives.

[FredInChina]

Osu!

I don't run. Who wants to die tired? :D

Osu!
Times have changed, you don't need to catch your opponents first... :D
Osu!

[knuckleheader]

how much do i need to run for karate? improving sparring stamina, etc?


My 2 cents. You can run a 5 mile distance, say at 10 minutes a mile. Then do the 5 miles at 8 or even 7 minute miles. Other days, you could do 50 and/or 100 yd. dashes for speed. Next, you might try running up stairs as Fred in China has done.
Varying your running will help with stamina. Of course, any aerobic work at an intense level will benefit you.

When I use to run. Sometimes would do 8-10 miles regularly. I wish I had run with the greater variety as I've suggested above....:D

It'll be more beneficial.

Also, build up you your sparring round times from 2 to 3 min. rounds. Then increas to 4 and 5 min. rounds. Next, sparring sessions that last say 6 rounds, 5 minutes each.
You'll have the lungs of a race horse. Osu-EN1

[netsecure]

isnt what i do? like run 1.5 miles with a constant speed of 6mph which builds up my exhaustion gradually, good for karate or improving stamina for sparring? BTW i dont do sprints or intensive running. I just start running on a threadmill as long as i feel i can go which is usally until i run 1.5 mph at a 6 mph speed, and then i stop..

[Dent]

Osu!

isnt what i do? like run 1.5 miles with a constant speed of 6mph which builds up my exhaustion gradually, good for karate or improving stamina for sparring? BTW i dont do sprints or intensive running. I just start running on a threadmill as long as i feel i can go which is usally until i run 1.5 mph at a 6 mph speed, and then i stop..

I think you know the answer, which is why you asked the question. :)

We don't fight at 6mph for 1.5 miles. Fight tempo is irregular, and highly anaerobic. If you want to run for fighting, you'll have to include stairs, sprints, intervals and every other generally difficult and tough exercise.

Osu!

[polarbearfighter]

All of you that are suggesting interval training for better karate seem to be forgetting one important factor of karate: "Run away rather than fight back if you possibly can".
(with full respect to your suggestion, IMO it is indeed a very good and valid suggestion).

My sensei once stated (semi-seriously) that one of the best possible self defense execises is 200m hurdles (maybe it was 400m or some other distance).

[FredInChina]

My sensei once stated (semi-seriously) that one of the best possible self defense execises is 200m hurdles (maybe it was 400m or some other distance).
haha, make it 400m, slightly uphill on a wet uneven surface, wearing tight jeans, too small city shoes (or stilettos if you are a woman), having lost your glasses, half drunk, and carrying a 35 pounds pilot case at 0300am under jet lag.
Pfew, that was close! :D
Osu!

[sandman]

Osu!

I'm not saying that the longer distance running at even tempo is bad for you - but fighting is an intense activity. If you really want to improve your cardio for fighting, the intensity of your cardio training needs to match. A sprinter wouldn't prepare for the 100 meters by running marathons. Same concept applies here.

[Dent]

Osu!

All of you that are suggesting interval training for better karate seem to be forgetting one important factor of karate: "Run away rather than fight back if you possibly can".

Would you run at 6MPH or 60? :D

Osu!

[Mishima]

I run about 8 km 4 times a day, two three weeks before a tournament or fight I just run sprints in steep hills two times a week.

[Dent]

Osu!

I run about 8 km 4 times a day

:eek:

Where do you get the time?!

Osu!

[Mishima]

Osu!



:eek:

Where do you get the time?!

Osu!
The love for the spirit of kyokushin makes me go up very early in the mornings. I hate going up early in the morning that is why I do it. I also begin with 50 pushups the first thing I do when I get up. Sosai raised no lazy bastard.:D

[polarbearfighter]

Osu!



Would you run at 6MPH or 60? :D

Osu!


I would never run at any MPH. I am (non-British) European... :)


I run about 8 km 4 times a day, two three weeks before a tournament or fight I just run sprints in steep hills two times a week.
...
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The love for the spirit of kyokushin makes me go up very early in the mornings. I hate going up early in the morning that is why I do it. I also begin with 50 pushups the first thing I do when I get up. Sosai raised no lazy bastard.

I give you rep for this kind of spirit and dedication...

[Dent]

Osu!

The love for the spirit of kyokushin makes me go up very early in the mornings. I hate going up early in the morning that is why I do it. I also begin with 50 pushups the first thing I do when I get up. Sosai raised no lazy bastard.:D

Ok, but do you do all four runs early? Then why not just 32km straight?

Osu!I would never run at any MPH. I am (non-British) European... :)

Ok, Polarbearfighter, how many leagues do you run? :D

Osu!

[knuckleheader]

All of you that are suggesting interval training for better karate seem to be forgetting one important factor of karate: "Run away rather than fight back if you possibly can".
(with full respect to your suggestion, IMO it is indeed a very good and valid suggestion).

My sensei once stated (semi-seriously) that one of the best possible self defense execises is 200m hurdles (maybe it was 400m or some other distance).

C'mon Polarbear, we're tawkin about competition:rolleyes:


Quote netsecure, Hi, running for karate!! for martial arts!! to become a fighter and not get winded or loose stamina while sparring.

[FredInChina]

Then why not just 32km straight?
And then what, Walk back? :D

Osu!

[knuckleheader]

And then what, Walk back? :D

Osu!

Hope he has cab fare:p now, back on thread:eek:

[senshido]

I dont run, to improve stamina for fighting... fight!

My philosophy is this
If you want to be a good runner... run
If you want to be a good fighter... fight

Osu

[Bloke]

I run because I enjoy it - I used to hate it but not anymore. It gives me time to be on my own and think.

[FredInChina]

(...)to be on my own and think.
A priceless privilege in this day & age. :)
Osu!

[jcc]

It gives me time to be on my own and think.

Osu!

There, methinks, speaks a new(ish) father! :p :D

OSU-EN2

[Bloke]

A priceless privilege in this day & age.
Osu!

Exactly - life can be very frenetic. Its peacful(ish) first thing in the morning and I find it sets me up for the day.

Osu!

There, methinks, speaks a new(ish) father!

OSU-EN2

Definetly although she almost 2 now but with another on the way it may be the only peace I get :)

[kanku]

I dont run, to improve stamina for fighting... fight!

My philosophy is this
If you want to be a good runner... run
If you want to be a good fighter... fight

Osu


another thing in common senshido, i still can`t understand the "marathon" running sessions they used to do at summer camps years ago?

+ Dickie used to run us sometimes and i am convinced he couldn`t think of anything better to do at the time!

imo fitness is the responsibility of the individual and shouldn`t take up too much valuable dojo time.

[polarbearfighter]

C'mon Polarbear, we're tawkin about competition:rolleyes:


Quote netsecure, Hi, running for karate!! for martial arts!! to become a fighter and not get winded or loose stamina while sparring.

Those big red letters are scary :eek:

Sorry, I didn't mean to pretend to know any better than others (but when I re-read my post I now realise that my it can easily be misinterpreted in that way). I just wanted to add a point. I should have written it more carefully. My apologies.

[knuckleheader]

Those big red letters are scary :eek:

Sorry, I didn't mean to pretend to know any better than others (but when I re-read my post I now realise that my it can easily be misinterpreted in that way). I just wanted to add a point. I should have written it more carefully. My apologies.

scarry? oh stop:D No big deal Bear. You should see some of my early posts on forums...:eek:

[senshido]

imo fitness is the responsibility of the individual and shouldn`t take up too much valuable dojo time.

Amen

[FredInChina]

(...) fitness is the responsibility of the individual and shouldn`t take up too much valuable dojo time.

Amen
What else to add? :confused: outside of that the sensei can sometimes help with a fitness program?
Repped, both! :):)
Osu!

[GJEC]

Predators sprint.

Prey runs.

Gary

[kanku]

Predators sprint.

Prey runs.

Gary


How about big hairy grizzly bears overweight and lazy (not that myself or senshido fall into this catagory!?:D)

not many critters prey on them and they are not to be f***** with:D:D

[senshido]

Lol

[Bloke]

Predators sprint.

Prey runs.

Gary

Where does that leave me :)

[FredInChina]

Predators sprint.

Prey runs.

Gary
Dogs and wolves run down their preys too... :)
Osu!

[GJEC]

OK, if we're going to get technical ;)

I was thinking more of things like leopards. They charge their prey and smash into them, literally hitting them so hard they knock them over, allowing them to get a grip on the throat, game over ...

That'll do nicely.

Gary

[FredInChina]

OK, if we're going to get technical ;)(...)
I see... How do priests do it? :D
Osu!

[jcc]

I see... How do priests do it? :D
Osu!

Osu!

They go for the pray! :eek: :D

OSU-EN2

[GJEC]

Drumroll ....

Very good!

[Dent]

Osu!

I see... How do priests do it? :D

They go for the pray! :D

With friends like these, who needs enemas? :rolleyes:

:D

Osu!

[netsecure]

i just ran 2 miles today at 7mph speed. I have progressed in running. I like running. I think its the best exercise possible. The benefit i have seen from running is that i used to be yawning and stretching all the time during the day even after getting good night sleep and my eyes were watery all the time. I found out that i was a shallow breather and i didnt have much oxygen in my blood stream. Running increased my lungs capacity and my yawning and feeling lazy has considerably improve.
I am also gonna start running for sparring which is sprinting and interval treaining but first i wanna increase my running at a constant speed of 7 mph to 3 miles.

[sandman]

Osu!

Sounds good netsecure. The best way to keep your training consistent is to do something you enjoy. :)

[Bloke]

Glad to hear its going well for you netsecure - I went out yesterday for a 5.7 Km run (about 3.5 miles) and it was great - not fast but the weather was nice, a little misty and there was very few people around so it was very peaceful.