Ok, now after one year of training in shidokan, i have finally decided to train myself for a tournament.
The tournament is World Oyama in April next year, thus luckily i have four solid months to prepare.
I believe i have a good foundation of techniques, due to my previous experience in kyokushin and also one year in shidokan now, so i dont think i would have to spend much time on it as compared to my real weaknesses, which are conditioning(Cardio, stamina) and strength.
I am soon gonna devise a program to prepare myself for tournament and giving special attention to my weak points, i have gotten lots of ideas on stamina system training (Thanks to seienchin, GJEC, sandman, FredInCHina etc) which i am gonna implement in my training program.
However, my second major problem which is my strength, and specifically impact conditioning, i am out of ideas on how to train for this? I dont have much resistance to pain during kumite. When i spar i am very concious to pain, and cant withstand hard blows. As i have posted before that since a couple of months i have been traking personal training for my strength, whose working on my strength with weights, weight lifting routines, body weight exercises, plyometrics etc. I also do weight lifting or whatever the trainer makes me do on my own one day a week. (So i am hitting weights twice a week) But i think i need additional training to train for impact so i can withstand all that blows and develop a resistance for pain than just lifting weights or making muscles.
I believe strength exercises only (those which develop muscles and defines them) should be supplemented with conditioning for impact for a fighter.
I am really out of ideas on how to develop this factor. Other than training impact through sparring by increasing the pain barrier a little everytime, what else could you do to train and increase it?
For eg i have gotten knocked out several times by a sempai through a well placed hook punch on my rib or on stomach. So to improve this i believe is hould be doing lots of abs work and crunches??
A side note to this post: The tournament i am preparing is a novice tournament, meaning full contacts with pads, headgear, shin pads etc where beginners would be participating. They also have a full contact bare knuckle advance tournament, which is for senior belts with no pads or protection etc which anyone can join. As this is my first tournament i decided to train myself for the novice one. However i am confused as i had done kyokushin for 2 years, and now shidokan for one year and by the time tournament comes it would be 4 more months, so i would probably have around 3.5 years of solid previous experience, while on the other hand the beginner tournament is for people with less than one year of experience.
Would i be dong justice by particpating in the beginners tournament or should i aim for the full contact advance tournament, which although for black and brown belts is open for anyone??
The sempai whos training me said that i should suck it in and go for the advance black belt, and according to him, i am far better for a beginner tournament, and i am probably gonna kill them.
I am confused, i have no previous tournament experience though so maybe i thought the beginner would be a better way to start off my fighting career. And also technically i am a beginner because i just passed my first grading test and got to 8th kyu
Havamal
12-26-2010, 05:25 AM
I have experience in WTF Taekwondo and Sport (Point) Karate competitions, aside from XC mt. bike racing, as a racer and as a volunteer team coach.
In all cases building endurance have been the main key, esp. anerobic endurance developed from interval training: sprinting up hills or stairs, fast lifting of free weights, and doing timed heavy bag work. You'll want the gas to goto the distance. Hard effort from a dojo is different from the level of intensity in a match, getting hit full contact, even with pads.
To have enough energy to be explosive in the finals or semi-finals is the goal (pardon me if I'm being obvious here): conditioning is key, conditioning for offense. Offense is the best defense.
Some "beginners" are not really beginners: Some are sandbaggers and some are advanced students in different arts, but might enter at a lesser level.
Start as a beginner or as an advanced, but don't be too surprised if a "beginner" turns out to be fitter than some yudansha. Just get your conditioning up be violent to the Finals.
Most people have more time to work on conditioning alone then to spar with partners. Fairtex fighters run 3 to 9 miles, twice a day: morning and evening in between training.
jcbel
12-26-2010, 05:44 AM
I believe strength exercises only (those which develop muscles and defines them) should be supplemented with conditioning for impact for a fighter.
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For eg i have gotten knocked out several times by a sempai through a well placed hook punch on my rib or on stomach. So to improve this i believe is hould be doing lots of abs work and crunches??
Strength exercises don't translate automatically into the ability to take a hit - having a strong core doesn't mean much when you're being hit at the moment you're taking a breath. As far as ribs go, the best way to take a hit there is NOT to take a hit.
You have to learn how to recognize when a hit is coming and brace yourself for it. I doubt anyone could withstand more than a few good blows that they are unprepared for.
EDIT: As for which tournament to enter, it makes no sense to me to enter an open tournament if you have no prior tournament experience. And the amount of time you have trained doesn't say a thing about how prepared you are for a tournament. As you said to begin your post, you have decided to train for a tournament - this says to me you haven't done so in the past! The novice tournaments are there for a reason.
harukaze
12-26-2010, 06:20 AM
Besides actual impact training from strikes, 2 other suggestions:
1.) Practice judo-style break-falling like backfalls and sidefalls, it gets your body used to impact. See if there's anyone at your dojo that can teach you and guide you on how to do it properly.
2.) Exercise physiology studies have shown that sprint training, when done with high enough intensity and long enough duration, increases pain threshold.
kakatootoshi
12-26-2010, 06:23 AM
However, my second major problem which is my strength, and specifically impact conditioning, i am out of ideas on how to train for this? I dont have much resistance to pain during kumite. When i spar i am very concious to pain, and cant withstand hard blows...I am soon gonna devise a program to prepare myself for tournament and giving special attention to my weak points, i have gotten lots of ideas on stamina system training (Thanks to seienchin, GJEC, sandman, FredInCHina etc) which i am gonna implement in my training program.
Use the search function netsecure! There are sooooooooo many existing threads on conditioning please first read them through. And there are even more threads on shin conditioning (see http://www.kyokushin4life.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12968).
Conditioning training for kyokushin
http://www.kyokushin4life.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8591
How you train your body to be stronger ?
http://www.kyokushin4life.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3751
Havamal
12-26-2010, 06:47 AM
Besides actual impact training from strikes, 2 other suggestions:
1.) Practice judo-style break-falling like backfalls and sidefalls, it gets your body used to impact. See if there's anyone at your dojo that can teach you and guide you on how to do it properly.
2.) Exercise physiology studies have shown that sprint training, when done with high enough intensity and long enough duration, increases pain threshold.
hmmm! good practical advice: "...Practice judo-style break-falling like backfalls and sidefalls, it gets your body used to impact."
sandman
12-26-2010, 01:22 PM
Impact Conditioning With a partner:
Have someone you trust just punch you in the stomach, softly at first, then have him gradually increase the force. Have him punch not just in spot, but all around the mid-section. When it gets too much you stop him, then start the process over. There are various ways you can do this - timed rounds, alternating a certain number of punches from your partner with you punching your partner back a certain number of times, etc... Use your imagination.
When you don't have a partner:
During your heavy bag work or shadow sparring, punch yourself in the legs, arms, ribs, midsection etc...
Grab a medicine ball - 10 or 12 lbs should do - lay on the floor and just drop it on your mid-section over and over. You can also do situps with it - hold the ball straight up, do a sit up and go back down, drop the ball on your stomach, repeat
shidokanatlanta
12-26-2010, 03:39 PM
Sparring is the only way to get you used to contact. Get with some respectable sparring partners, pad up and spar. Vary the contact (light, medium, heavy). All the weights, bag, etc. are supplementary to fighting and to get used to fighting, spar. Get with a group of people (different weights, heights, levels) and spar several rounds. Spar with Sensei Ortiz. He is very experienced and knowlegeable.
knuckleheader
12-26-2010, 05:53 PM
The only thing I will add is to use from yoga, the Power of Suggestion.
Thru steady meditation with PoS, this is a way to psyche yourself up, if you will.
Combined with the impact drills that have been offered. You'll develop a stronger tolerance to impacts and pain.
Four mos. is a relatively short time. You'll be better in four mos., after a year and more. A whole lot better. Bring yourself along, use good sense.
Look forward to how you do in that up-coming competition.
Dent
12-26-2010, 06:10 PM
Osu!
As this is my first tournament i decided to train myself for the novice one. However i am confused as i had done kyokushin for 2 years, and now shidokan for one year and by the time tournament comes it would be 4 more months, so i would probably have around 3.5 years of solid previous experience, while on the other hand the beginner tournament is for people with less than one year of experience.
Would i be dong justice by particpating in the beginners tournament or should i aim for the full contact advance tournament, which although for black and brown belts is open for anyone??
Hmmm............
Could be seen as sandbagging.
2.) Exercise physiology studies have shown that sprint training, when done with high enough intensity and long enough duration, increases pain threshold.
I dispute this! If you're nuts enough to do this often, there is something wrong with your pain receptors anyway! :D
Osu!
netsecure
12-26-2010, 06:13 PM
Osu!
Hmmm............
Could be seen as sandbagging.
I dispute this! If you're nuts enough to do this often, there is something wrong with your pain receptors anyway! :D
Osu!
what is sandbagging?
knuckleheader
12-26-2010, 06:17 PM
what is sandbagging?
Fighting as a "novice" with substantial prior experience:D
yoshukai
12-26-2010, 07:02 PM
netsecure, where will the tournament be held?
Osu
Dent
12-26-2010, 07:20 PM
Osu!
what is sandbagging?
Fighting as a "novice" with substantial prior experience:D
Bingo! If the tourney is for those of less than one year and you have more than 3 times that, I'd call sandbagging. After all, how would you feel meeting a guy with 10 years of training under the same circumstances?
Osu!
netsecure
12-26-2010, 07:33 PM
netsecure, where will the tournament be held?
Osu
Atlanta, i would be going along with shidokanatlanta students and representing shidokan.
yoshukai
12-26-2010, 07:44 PM
Awesome. I along with a few others from Yoshukai will be competing in this tournament. Look forward to seeing you there.
Osu!
netsecure
12-26-2010, 07:51 PM
GReat!! Are you particpating in the beginners or advance?
yoshukai
12-26-2010, 08:01 PM
I will be in th advanced lightweight knockdown division.
Shidokanatlanta is right about the sparring. Lots of rounds with different partners is good for conditioning.
I also use Sandman's idea. Go 30 second rounds of body punching increasing the intensity of each punch after every hit. When you get to the point where you can't handle it, say stop and start over until the 30 second round is over. You can also do the same with kicks.
Havamal
12-26-2010, 08:20 PM
Osu!
Bingo! If the tourney is for those of less than one year and you have more than 3 times that, I'd call sandbagging. After all, how would you feel meeting a guy with 10 years of training under the same circumstances?
Osu!
I distinguish 1 year of "experience" vs. 1st year of full contact or knockdown experience. I know many karate-ka (or mountain bike riders) with several years of experience outside of competition that are not fit to start competing at more advanced level. if some of our Seido people entered a knockdown karate match, they'd get overwhelmed on their first experience...which is a good test to see, if like Chuck Norris did after his first, they'll adjust training and go back again as long as they're not injured and have thier spirits crushed.
Simple thing to do is enter at your current belt level first then move up if you're on the winners' circle.
Dent
12-26-2010, 09:22 PM
Osu!
I distinguish 1 year of "experience" vs. 1st year of full contact or knockdown experience. I know many karate-ka with several years of experience outside of competition that are not fit to start competing at more advanced level.
Simple thing to do is enter at your current belt level first then move up if you're on the winners' circle.
I feel that if you're not up to taking part in the open game, then that is your responsibility. Not fair on the genuine newbies to claim a lack of fitness etc as a reason to take the easy road.
In fact, if I was competing as someone with less than one year in, and I found out about someone with 2 years of Kyokushin and (by then) 16 months of Shidokan, I'd feel fairly justified in ignoring the rules too. :cool:
Osu!
yoshukai
12-26-2010, 09:30 PM
Just to clarify... The tournament that netsecure is talking about rarely has divisons by rank for the adults semi-knockdown divisions. They usually have lightweight semi-knockdonw mens/heavyweight semi-knockdown mens and senior semi-knockdown mens. The same for the women. I have even seen the mens semi-knockdown be open weight and have white belts all the way to black in the same semi-knockdown division. It normally depends on how many fighters are there. So it is possible that his division could have people with one month experience to people with 5 years experience. I am not saying that this is the way it should be, but it does happen.
Osu
netsecure
12-26-2010, 09:30 PM
Osu!
I feel that if you're not up to taking part in the open game, then that is your responsibility. Not fair on the genuine newbies to claim a lack of fitness etc as a reason to take the easy road.
In fact, if I was competing as someone with less than one year in, and I found out about someone with 2 years of Kyokushin and (by then) 16 months of Shidokan, I'd feel fairly justified in ignoring the rules too. :cool:
Osu!
Yea but in the open, if someone with 6 years of experience with a black belt and who was the previous year champion is fighting you(with no tournament experience, and having a gap of four years b/w kyokushin and shidokan), i dont think thats justified either
sandman
12-26-2010, 09:44 PM
Yoshukai is right - at this particular tournament, the difference is just pads for semi-knockdown divisions and no pads for the open knockdown divisions. There'll be guys in the semi-knockdown divisions with plenty of years' tournament experience. I've never seen netsecure fight, but I'm guessing semi-knockdown will probably be a better place to get his feet wet in this tournament.
Dent
12-26-2010, 10:12 PM
Osu!
Yea but in the open, if someone with 6 years of experience with a black belt and who was the previous year champion is fighting you(with no tournament experience, and having a gap of four years b/w kyokushin and shidokan), i dont think thats justified either
Anyone can win on any given day. I think that if you want a tournament tailored for you, then you have to ask what your motivation is. Ok, I'm biased. I love to compete. I'm well over the hill, now competing against the children of former opponents (Ok, that one was a bit of a shock! :eek: ), and I still get out on the mat/ floor/ ring if a little less often than I used to. And it's not like I'm particularly good, certainly not talented, and I have all the grace of Billy Bob Slingblade Thornton and the speed of your local Ariolimax.
So, should I be looking for a division that conforms to all my quirks, I'll be in a bigger quandary than looking for another "qu" word on my Qwerty board! :D
My opinion, and this is all it is, is that you should prepare yourself over the next 16 weeks, and do your best. That's what winners do. The results? They mean a lot less than the process. The winning is in setting the target, aiming the mind, body and spirit, and then winning every single one of those 112 days before the tournament.
Osu!
sandman
12-26-2010, 10:21 PM
My opinion, and this is all it is, is that you should prepare yourself over the next 16 weeks, and do your best. That's what winners do. The results? They mean a lot less than the process. The winning is in setting the target, aiming the mind, body and spirit, and then winning every single one of those 112 days before the tournament.
Osu!
Yes!!! What a fantastic way to word that Dent :)
(lemme see if the rep police will let me sneak one in...)
EDIT: Ha! Take that rep police!! :D
kakatootoshi
12-26-2010, 10:29 PM
If the tourney is for those of less than one year and you have more than 3 times that, I'd call sandbagging. After all, how would you feel meeting a guy with 10 years of training under the same circumstances?
Osu!
I feel that if you're not up to taking part in the open game, then that is your responsibility. Not fair on the genuine newbies to claim a lack of fitness etc as a reason to take the easy road.
Yea but in the open, if someone with 6 years of experience with a black belt and who was the previous year champion is fighting you...i dont think thats justified either
Perhaps that is not justified either if that really happens. I agree with Dent that if you fight in the novice you are for sure going to the tatami with the conscious knowledge that you will be sandbagging. No glory in winning and if you lose, you look real bad. And I also agree with you that if you are facing a much experienced opponent, you are at a disadvantageous position. But my advice is, in a tournament setting (not a Dojo situation, where you train different skills according to your Dojo mate's level), if you choose to fight against people who have much less experience than you, you will learn nothing. Cherry picking if you want to sum it up. Only by constantly challenging against people who are of the same level or stronger than you will you be able to break away from your current skill level and grow in strength.
When you are in a situation where in your opinion both options cannot be justified, pick the one which will give you the thing you want. If you want to become more proficient in skills, going by route one (novice) is most unreasonable.
Dent
12-26-2010, 10:40 PM
Osu!
Yes!!! What a fantastic way to word that Dent :)
(lemme see if the rep police will let me sneak one in...)
EDIT: Ha! Take that rep police!! :D
Many thanks, Sandman! :)
Osu!
netsecure
12-26-2010, 10:41 PM
I consider myself a beginner! You omited a very crucial part of my post which was that i had a gap of four years between kyokushin and shidokan.
When i started shidokan i was at the level of white belt again and my technique, conditioning, strength was at the same level as other beginners.
I also said that as this is my first tournament, and also with only a year of current training, i would probably be more suited for the semi knockdown.
I would have known i was sandbaggin if i probably had no problem in sparring with black belts in my dojo, but thats not the case, because if you saw my thread i said i always get knocked down by sempai's and seniors and dont have much resistance to pain.
In the tournament fighting open with a black belt, who only care to win, he wouldnt think twice to be gentle.
kakatootoshi
12-26-2010, 11:33 PM
You omited a very crucial part of my post which was that i had a gap of four years between kyokushin and shidokan.
I did notice that part and I surely had that information in my mind when I was writing my previous knowledge (even if I am not quoting all of you and Dent's messages for easy viewing of all). I specially quoted the following message of Dent as a perfect answer (yes he posted before you but still). Many many people in Kyokushin train on and off and you are not alone.
I feel that if you're not up to taking part in the open game, then that is your responsibility. Not fair on the genuine newbies to claim a lack of fitness etc as a reason to take the easy road.
In the tournament fighting open with a black belt, who only care to win, he wouldnt think twice to be gentle.
Do you mean "he wouldn't think twice to be rough(?)" (if you mean the black belt do not want to go gentle)
Do you not care to win netsecure?
Do you think twice to be rough at the tournament?
Or you will think twice to be rough because you do not care to win?
I am not sure what differences between you and a black belt you are getting at.:confused:
Would i be dong justice by particpating in the beginners tournament or should i aim for the full contact advance tournament, which although for black and brown belts is open for anyone??
Are you genuinely asking for a YES NO answer or are you already answering your own question? If you really want a simple answer about "doing justice or not" I can give you one, just ask.:)
Or do you look for encouragements and approvals (absolutely no negative implies)?;)
My final advice is, if you are simply looking for an absolutely answer about whether fighting in a tournament is a justice or not from the others, I think you are asking the wrong question from the beginning. No matter what tournament you are fighting in, there will be a certain degree of injustice (against you or your opponent). Some you know before you enter the tournament (experience, weight, venue, etc). Some you will not find out until you are already or after fighting. And perceptions of outsiders about "justice" of a tournament or circumstances around someone's entry of a tournament vary. It is better for you to ask the many instructors here if a certain technique of yours is good or not. Justice? You cannot possibly please (and there is no need to) everyone. As long as you fight fair and get what you want, that is good for you, no matter you are fighting in novice or any other category. Perhaps to handle your own thoughts (or worries) about people's perception of you in a tournament and the resulting pressure is also part of tournament preparation. If you can train hard for this tournament and totally discard the worries about whether people consider it a justice for you to fight in the tournament or not, you are already a great step ahead becoming a good fighter (the development of physical skills is a different story).
knuckleheader
12-26-2010, 11:43 PM
netsecure, you don't have to compete so soon either. Give your self say, six mos. or more. Get better prepared. When you're stronger and more able to spar your seniors. Then enter a competition with less doubt and questions.
yoshukai
12-27-2010, 12:12 AM
IMHO, if you do not feel comfortable fighting in a specific division, then don't. You are the only one of us who knows where you stand in your training, fighting, conditioning, etc...
As I said before, the semi-knockdown portion of the Oyama tournament that you will be fighting in, will more than likely be split by age/weight and not experience level. If they do split it by experience, then they will ask you if your belt in Shidokan is a beginner/intermediate/advanced rank. They will then make a determination based on that.
Osu
netsecure
12-27-2010, 02:10 AM
I did notice that part and I surely had that information in my mind when I was writing my previous knowledge (even if I am not quoting all of you and Dent's messages for easy viewing of all). I specially quoted the following message of Dent as a perfect answer (yes he posted before you but still). Many many people in Kyokushin train on and off and you are not alone.
Do you mean "he wouldn't think twice to be rough(?)" (if you mean the black belt do not want to go gentle)
Do you not care to win netsecure?
Do you think twice to be rough at the tournament?
Or you will think twice to be rough because you do not care to win?
I am not sure what differences between you and a black belt you are getting at.:confused:
Are you genuinely asking for a YES NO answer or are you already answering your own question? If you really want a simple answer about "doing justice or not" I can give you one, just ask.
Or do you look for encouragements and approvals (absolutely no negative implies)?
My final advice is, if you are simply looking for an absolutely answer about whether fighting in a tournament is a justice or not from the others, I think you are asking the wrong question from the beginning. No matter what tournament you are fighting in, there will be a certain degree of injustice (against you or your opponent). Some you know before you enter the tournament (experience, weight, venue, etc). Some you will not find out until you are already or after fighting. And perceptions of outsiders about "justice" of a tournament or circumstances around someone's entry of a tournament vary. It is better for you to ask the many instructors here if a certain technique of yours is good or not. Justice? You cannot possibly please (and there is no need to) everyone. As long as you fight fair and get what you want, that is good for you, no matter you are fighting in novice or any other category. Perhaps to handle your own thoughts (or worries) about people's perception of you in a tournament and the resulting pressure is also part of tournament preparation. If you can train hard for this tournament and totally discard the worries about whether people consider it a justice for you to fight in the tournament or not, you are already a great step ahead becoming a good fighter (the development of physical skills is a different story).
Osu :) Thanks for your wise words!! Some things i would like to say is i am absolutely gonna be looking to win and get a little rough if needed, however an experience black belt getting rough on a kohai to win might be a different story!
netsecure, you don't have to compete so soon either. Give your self say, six mos. or more. Get better prepared. When you're stronger and more able to spar your seniors. Then enter a competition with less doubt and questions.
IMHO, if you do not feel comfortable fighting in a specific division, then don't. You are the only one of us who knows where you stand in your training, fighting, conditioning, etc...
As I said before, the semi-knockdown portion of the Oyama tournament that you will be fighting in, will more than likely be split by age/weight and not experience level. If they do split it by experience, then they will ask you if your belt in Shidokan is a beginner/intermediate/advanced rank. They will then make a determination based on that.
Osu
Forget the advance or beginner, now i am seriously considering if i should be even doing the tournament in the first place :confused: I am freaking out even from now :o
yoshukai
12-27-2010, 02:26 AM
The only way to get over the fear is to get out there and do it. Now is as good a time as any. :D
Osu-EN1
kakatootoshi
12-27-2010, 02:58 AM
Some things i would like to say is i am absolutely gonna be looking to win and get a little rough if needed, however an experience black belt getting rough on a kohai to win might be a different story!
Come on, do not tell me you have never watched a Kyokushin Kumite. It is a TOURNAMENT, not DOJO. The guy bows to you, coming all over you to get you and he goes home. It is not inside the DOJO. The guy does not let you take a breathe and tells you what you have done wrong. Do you expect him to give you a bit of pep talk and serve you tea? Tournament is no holding back. I do not know what you mean by getting rough (I certainly do not mean fighting dirty I simply mean NOT gentle, like two guys Waltz dance instead of hitting each other real hard) but if you think you "get a little rough if needed" you are certainly having a high esteem of yourself (or you mean you want to fight dirty, either way it is not good). Tournament is always rough, always painful and always unexpected. It is not something "if you turn up the heat I turn up the heat too baby":D. It is not always under your control.;)
Hey if these people's opinions bother you and you "freak out", why not stop visiting the forums for a while and concentrate on Dojo training. I do not train you, Dent does not train you, neither does knuckleheader or yoshukai. Your Sensei trains you. If I am your Sensei I will cry if you do not trust me and "freak out" because you talk-Kumite (Kumite with the mouth) with some guys over the internet!:eek:Kyokushin4life can be informative but if it affects your training leave it for a while or leave it for good. You do not do everything only after getting advice from Kyokushin4life. Talking to your Sensei is way more constructive than talking to people here!Osu-JP1
netsecure
12-27-2010, 03:09 AM
Come on, do not tell me you have never watched a Kyokushin Kumite. It is a TOURNAMENT, not DOJO. The guy bows to you, coming all over you to get you and he goes home. It is not inside the DOJO. The guy does not let you take a breathe and tells you what you have done wrong. Do you expect him to give you a bit of pep talk and serve you tea? Tournament is no holding back. I do not know what you mean by getting rough (I certainly do not mean fighting dirty I simply mean NOT gentle, like two guys Waltz dance instead of hitting each other real hard) but if you think you "get a little rough if needed" you are certainly having a high esteem of yourself (or you mean you want to fight dirty, either way it is not good). Tournament is always rough, always painful and always unexpected. It is not something "if you turn up the heat I turn up the heat too baby":D. It is not always under your control.
Hey if these people's opinions bother you and you "freak out", why not stop visiting the forums for a while and concentrate on Dojo training. I do not train you, Dent does not train you, neither does knuckleheader or yoshukai. Your Sensei trains you. If I am your Sensei I will cry if you do not trust me and "freak out" because you talk-Kumite (Kumite with the mouth) with some guys over the internet!:eek:Kyokushin4life can be informative but if it affects your training leave it for a while or leave it for good. You do not do everything only after getting advice from Kyokushin4life. Talking to your Sensei is way more constructive than talking to people here!Osu-JP1
:confused: I think you completely didnt get the point or what i was trying to imply from what you qouted of me.
Anyway lets just forget it! Thanks
kakatootoshi
12-27-2010, 03:21 AM
Forget the advance or beginner, now i am seriously considering if i should be even doing the tournament in the first place :confused: I am freaking out even from now
I hope you are not freaking out because you are bothered by the comments and advice you are given here. They are not meant to puzzle you and trample the quality training given by your Sensei, the only man you should trust! If he says you are good to go then trust him and train to fight. If you feel scared let him share your worries.
I think you completely didnt get the point or what i was trying to imply from what you qouted of me.
Anyway lets just forget it! Thanks
I hope I have not gone too far with my words.;):D
If you have worries about your tournament talk to your Sensei. And whether you fight novice or advance forget about Sempai going gentle or Kohai going gentle. Tournament fighting is hitting people hard. Everyone is your enemy and you "treat" them equal. Hitting people hard is respect in Budo.Osu-JP1 Showing mercy to a "Kohai" in tournament is a joke.
powerof0ne
12-27-2010, 03:41 AM
I understand where Kakatootoshi is coming from and don't want to seem mean to some of our newer karateka and members on here but some of you seem to ask the same questions over and over or not even want an answer to your question..
I think most of you are just going to have to learn the hard way, just like I and probably almost everybody else here has.
The advice is given, take it or leave it and have fun training & competing if you so choose to compete.
Osu!
Havamal
12-27-2010, 04:49 AM
Osu!
I feel that if you're not up to taking part in the open game, then that is your responsibility. Not fair on the genuine newbies to claim a lack of fitness etc as a reason to take the easy road.
In fact, if I was competing as someone with less than one year in, and I found out about someone with 2 years of Kyokushin and (by then) 16 months of Shidokan, I'd feel fairly justified in ignoring the rules too. :cool:
Osu!
Not just lack of fitness, but also lack of experience: Must consider both, yin and yang.
Only the sensei/coach and the student/player can decide where to strike the balance between good exposure and safety, yet always honoring the rules as best understood.
When in doubt, take smaller "steps" to gain self-knowledge then "chew" on some more as the situations revel themselves.
FredInChina
12-27-2010, 11:38 AM
(...) I'd feel fairly justified in ignoring the rules too.
Uh Oh...
:eek:
:rolleyes:
:D:D
Take a bag to bring your head & a$$ back home with you netsecure...
Osu!
FredInChina
12-27-2010, 11:53 AM
(...) The results? They mean a lot less than the process. (...)
Repped! :) (Let the police take that too!)
Osu!
I consider myself a beginner! (...)
Aren't we all? ;)
Let your Sensei help you with the choice of category.
Prepare yourself for the KD open (you'll soon be on, either this time, or the next!).
Osu!
(...) i am seriously considering if i should be even doing the tournament in the first place; I am freaking out even from now
Great... heat and pressure are part of the forging process... :)
Osu!
PS: sorry for the consecutive posts.
wullie
12-27-2010, 12:07 PM
if your Shihan or Sensei reckons your ready then stop worrying about it train hard and DO IT!
OSU!
GJEC
12-27-2010, 01:18 PM
Just do it.
Keep your hands up and come out fighting. People might have higher belts or longer training than you but that doesn't mean they have more spirit. Keep it simple, hit hard and aim to finish each bout as soon as possible.
Gary
Hangtime
12-27-2010, 02:43 PM
There is certainly a lot to consider Netsecure, but I think Kakatootshi has pointed you in the right direction --talk to your sensei.
We know you as Netsecure: K4L Green Belt who lives in Chicago and trains in Shidokan. We know nothing about how you fight; we know a little about how you train. We cannot consciously guide you to do one or the other.
Your sensei knows how you train and how you fight; he's the person who should tell you how to go about your endeavors. It is admirable to want to compete and push yourself, how else will you know if your training is effective? But decisions like that are left to you and your instructor.
Like some have said (including ShidokanAtlanta) find a good sparring partner. IMHO, a good partner is the key to good preparation. I have a couple of excellent sparring partners (Sandman is one of them); Yoshukai has two excellent sparring partners. Find someone who does what you want to do well and ask them to help you train; find big guys and small guys, people who hit hard, women, heavyweights, lightweights, kids (yes, kids!) --you can always train something with various partners (kids -footwork, for example), but keep that one sparring partner that will be willing to pound you into oblivion (if need be) and can take a lick too.
That said, no matter what take the rest of the advice; train hard, spar, and get ready. You've been given plenty of good advice, and plenty of direction; so as Nike and Gary have said "Just do it!".
OSU!
netsecure
12-27-2010, 03:07 PM
Just do it.
Keep your hands up and come out fighting. People might have higher belts or longer training than you but that doesn't mean they have more spirit. Keep it simple, hit hard and aim to finish each bout as soon as possible.
Gary
I am definitely gonna do it, because if i dont i am sure i am gonna kill myself later for not doing it. And once it over and i am done doing it i will feel awesome about it no matter what happens :). I still consider myself doing the semi knockdown thing instead of the open one ;), my main goal however is the rochester tournament at the end of next year, where i would be particpating in the full contact knock down division, by that time i believe i would be more prepare and experienced for the full contact one, so i am seeing this upcoming one as a step and warm up towards my main goal.
Thanks everyone for the advice.
sandman
12-27-2010, 03:30 PM
[...] by that time i believe i would be more prepare and experienced for the full contact one, so i am seeing this upcoming one as a step and warm up towards my main goal.
Just to be clear - the semi knockdown division does not mean less contact, it just means you'll be wearing protective gear. You will still hit, and be hit, with full contact. Maybe you already knew that but because of the way you worded your statement above, I just wanted to make sure...
Osu!
netsecure
12-27-2010, 03:48 PM
Just to be clear - the semi knockdown division does not mean less contact, it just means you'll be wearing protective gear. You will still hit, and be hit, with full contact. Maybe you already knew that but because of the way you worded your statement above, I just wanted to make sure...
Osu!
Thanks for the clarification sandman, yup i knew about it, but the extra padding and protective covering is gonna provide some sense of relieve
Hangtime
12-27-2010, 07:25 PM
Thanks for the clarification sandman, yup i knew about it, but the extra padding and protective covering is gonna provide some sense of relieve
Um.... :D
You'd be surprised by how **not true** that thought is, at least in my experience. IMHO, the biggest difference in semi-knockdown and knockdown is that extra minute and the mindset of the fighter...the match itself isn't any easier.
One of the biggest reasons for my transition from semi to knockdown was the weight class itself; in semi-kd, I was considered a heavyweight. There wasn't anyone within 20LBS in that division. My first KD tournament, I fought as a middleweight and was knocked out by a natural lightweight fighting "up".
It feels the same to me; maybe a little less bruising, but it feels the same.
OSU!
ushideshinidan
12-27-2010, 08:08 PM
As Sandman was writing, you should train with a partner and do some Juji kumite. meaning alternate attacks between you and your partner. You do 3 to 5 attacks with punches and or kicks and than it is your partner's turn. When you get hit, you should not try to block the attack. You go easy at first, let's say 25% of your partner capacity to take the hit and than slowly increase power from 25 there 50, 75 and up to 100 %. You can alternate this training, one day with protective gear, the other one without, to allow your body to heal and to learn to hit with full force with minimum injuries or bruising. For full contact fighter, not only should you learn to take a hit but more importantly, you should learn to hit in an efficient and powerful way. A lot of fighters are physically strong and can take a hit but a lot of fighter don't have the technique and mental preparation to hit his or her opponent full power or at least hard enough to get a waza-ari or ippon, and vice and versa. That being said, the best way to take a hit is to not get hit... Good luck!
Osu!
smoothsake
12-31-2010, 06:27 AM
Um.... :D
You'd be surprised by how **not true** that thought is...
It feels the same to me; maybe a little less bruising, but it feels the same.
Right! I've done semi and full, and a part of me thinks semi is more dangerous! With a little gear people get that false sense of security and throw dangerous techniques like chudan mawashi right at your elbow or go nuts with the uchi mata and take out your knees, or worse - your nuts. I've fought a couple monsters that go crazy. With full contact you tend to weed out the crazies and people are more controlled, reserved, and skilled.
netsecure
12-31-2010, 06:40 AM
I broke my rib on monday, i am not competing this year anyway!
I sound like an utter loser, but i its a serious bruise or a fracture...
Havamal
12-31-2010, 07:06 AM
Right! I've done semi and full, and a part of me thinks semi is more dangerous! With a little gear people get that false sense of security and throw dangerous techniques like chudan mawashi right at your elbow or go nuts with the uchi mata and take out your knees, or worse - your nuts. I've fought a couple monsters that go crazy. With full contact you tend to weed out the crazies and people are more controlled, reserved, and skilled.
osu.
interesting.
osu
I broke my rib on monday, i am not competing this year anyway!
I sound like an utter loser, but i its a serious bruise or a fracture...
if you can run, then run...up, fast.
yoshukai
12-31-2010, 07:32 AM
osu.
interesting.
osu
Smoothsake hit the nail on the head. Full contact as opposed to semi knockdown, is two different worlds. The knockdown fighters tend to be more relaxed and comfortable during the fight.
Semi-knockdown fights can go somewhat ape sh**
Osu-EN1
FredInChina
12-31-2010, 09:50 AM
I broke my rib on monday, i am not competing this year anyway!
I sound like an utter loser, but i its a serious bruise or a fracture...
DOH!
Heal well and fast netsecure! :)
Osu!
kakatootoshi
12-31-2010, 10:19 AM
I broke my rib on monday, i am not competing this year anyway!
I sound like an utter loser, but i its a serious bruise or a fracture...
Perhaps this is a chance for you to sit back and REALLY think about Karate, and what direction of training you should be heading in the future. Do not concentrate on the fringe, but the core of Karate.:)
Get well soon.
sandman
12-31-2010, 12:40 PM
Right! I've done semi and full, and a part of me thinks semi is more dangerous! With a little gear people get that false sense of security and throw dangerous techniques like chudan mawashi right at your elbow or go nuts with the uchi mata and take out your knees, or worse - your nuts. I've fought a couple monsters that go crazy. With full contact you tend to weed out the crazies and people are more controlled, reserved, and skilled.
Absolutely true!
And Netsecure - heat and ice, heat and ice. I hope your rib recovers soon.
And try not to laugh - because that really hurts ;)
knuckleheader
12-31-2010, 12:48 PM
I broke my rib on monday, i am not competing this year anyway!
I sound like an utter loser, but i its a serious bruise or a fracture...
try not too sneeze....:D
wullie
12-31-2010, 01:24 PM
I broke my rib on monday, i am not competing this year anyway!
I sound like an utter loser, but i its a serious bruise or a fracture...
get better soon mate, bit of rest and follow Sandman's advice, also Knuckleheader's :D.
don't let it put you off, you'll be back training in no time and still have time to get ready for a tournament.
Osu-EN1
kanku
12-31-2010, 01:28 PM
yes, get well soon and get back on that "horse":)
sandman
12-31-2010, 01:31 PM
This may not be what you want to hear Netsecure, but rib injuries normallly heal in 4 - 6 weeks. That puts you well in early to mid February. Plenty of time left for training for an end-of-April tournament.
You can thank me when the tournament's over ;)
knuckleheader
12-31-2010, 01:36 PM
This may not be what you want to hear Netsecure, but rib injuries normallly heal in 4 - 6 weeks. That puts you well in early to mid February. Plenty of time left for training for an end-of-April tournament.
You can thank me when the (that) tournament's over ;)
netsecure, look at this first tournament as a stepping stone. As the others follow, win lose or draw. Tournaments are just barometers of you efforts.
jcarmello
12-31-2010, 01:53 PM
I broke my rib on monday, i am not competing this year anyway!
I sound like an utter loser, but i its a serious bruise or a fracture...
Ohhhhh, I hate it for you Netsecure!!!!! Be careful and let it heal! It is easy to exacerbate that injury and never have a comfortable breath!! my best to you! And dont roll over in bed on that side! And no laughing, coughing, sneezing or twisting the wrong way!!!
Osu!!
netsecure
12-31-2010, 03:17 PM
woah, i didnt expect so many wishes and replies :), thanks a lot
It was on monday sparring, a big 6,4 inch guy(senior) caught me with a fierce hook punch on my left side rib cage. Usually when you get punched you get sucked in for a min than you are fine, but i knew since taking that hit that it was different, i was down on the mat for 4 mins, and for the rest of the class, and it got worse rest of the night and i felt it more at home after being relaxed and showering than being in the dojo when i was warmed up. Especially during sleeping i was in utter pain.
My spirit didnt get me down because even until yesterday i was still in the hopes of competing and let this injury heal and slide and went to spar last night with my trainer.
We sparred for one hour, around 45 mins time he accidentally caught me with a mae geri right on the place where i had that broken(bruised?) rib. I told him about it thus he sparred light with me and tried to avoid hitting that area, but unintentionally by accident that mae geri of his caught me right at that spot.
I got down on the floor again, and since last night the pain has been worse, For two days it was when i made some series of motions or tried to lift something that i felt it but since yesterday tts just hurting badly even when i am still doing nothing. i just woke up and possibly slept only 3 hours last night due to the exucerating pain. Before yesterday there was some positions while lying that i didnt feel the pain, but last night there wasnt a single position during lying that i wasnt feeling pain, i felt like something is moving around my rib cage making cracking noises.
It sucks so much honestly :(....... During the worse time of last night my spirit was down and made me declare here that i probably wont be competing and have a rib cage bruise(fracture).
But i am still in the hope again that if i get well, and if its only a bruise(i havent seen my doctors due to all these holidays), i will be competing in April for all i have!!
Thanks everyone for all the support :)
Like i mentioned i have a very weak core and rib cage, and i get usually knocked down with punches to my solo and core, but on monday it was more severe :(
FredInChina
12-31-2010, 03:35 PM
(...) i have a very weak core and rib cage (...)
LOL - there, you have your 2011 goals cut out for you! :D
Osu!
sandman
12-31-2010, 03:37 PM
But i am still in the hope again that if i get well, and if its only a bruise(i havent seen my doctors due to all these holidays), i will be competing in April for all i have!!
That's the spirit Netsecure :)
That cracking noise sounds like a problem - better get to the doctor soon. Normal rib fractures and bruises don't require any intervention other than not overdoing it and maybe tylenol, but there's a possibility that if the bone is protruding inside it could do real damage. I strongly urge you to get to a doctor shortly.
FredInChina
12-31-2010, 03:39 PM
(...)there's a possibility that if the bone is protruding inside (...)
Yes, if it was protruding outside, he would know already :D
Osu!
sandman
12-31-2010, 03:40 PM
Yes, if it was protruding outside, he would know already :D
Osu!
Thank you for that observation Fred :rolleyes:
:D
netsecure
12-31-2010, 03:45 PM
i dont think i would be able to see my doctor before Monday!!. It hurts so bad :(, i really shouldnt have went last night to spar, it made it worse.
Is there anyway to find out without the doctor if you have a bruise or a broken rib?
kakatootoshi
12-31-2010, 04:17 PM
i just woke up and possibly slept only 3 hours last night due to the exucerating pain. Before yesterday there was some positions while lying that i didnt feel the pain, but last night there wasnt a single position during lying that i wasnt feeling pain, i felt like something is moving around my rib cage making cracking noises.
It sucks so much honestly :(....... During the worse time of last night my spirit was down and made me declare here that i probably wont be competing and have a rib cage bruise(fracture).
Do you have a fridge and some ice at home?:)
jcarmello
12-31-2010, 04:21 PM
Emergency room XRAY!
sandman
12-31-2010, 04:33 PM
i dont think i would be able to see my doctor before Monday!!. It hurts so bad :(, i really shouldnt have went last night to spar, it made it worse.
Is there anyway to find out without the doctor if you have a bruise or a broken rib?
I had a rib injury a couple of years ago, and my doctor told me that unless there is bone protruding internally, there is no difference between a bruised rib or fractured rib in terms of treatment. In the case of a protruding bone, I think the only way to know for sure is an x-ray, but your doctor will decide if that is likely enough to warrant the x-ray. Intense pain is normal whether there is protrusion or not. Just take it real easy until you can get to the doc.
In my case, I went about 1 week after the incident, and after answering a few of my doctor's questions he determined no x-ray was needed. He said in that case that whether it was bruised or fractured, the course of treatment was the same, and it would likely take 4 - 6 weeks to heal in either case.
For a bruise or break:
1) Use pain as your guide in terms of what activities you can do - if it hurts, don't do it. It will hurt like hell for a few days to a couple weeks so you won't be able to do much at all during that time. After that, you'll be able to gradually start some of your training again, but again - some things you'll be able to do, some will be too painful. For example, I was able to do katas and kihon after a couple weeks, but bag work was out for a few more weeks after that. Obviously avoid any hard contact to that area until its fully healed, meaning no more pain doing any activity.
2) Try using ice or heat or a combination of the two to help manage the pain. Different people have different experiences here, so experiment for yourself what seems to help you the most. Ibuprofen or aspirin can help too.
3) Stay far away from the "Joke of the Day" thread for a few days ;)
I wish you a speedy recovery Netsecure :)
netsecure
12-31-2010, 04:39 PM
Do you have a fridge and some ice at home?:)
yes i do!! but i have never done this before, and putting ice on my rib doesnt sound very pleasing :(
I have a strength training session at 12 oclock today, i told my trainer that i will confirm him in the morning if i would be able to take it or not. I am still deciding and finding it hard to tell him that i wont be able to come.......
meguro
12-31-2010, 04:41 PM
See a dr. Besides a broken rib, you may have sustained internal injuries that might require treatment. There's a lot of delicate stuff beneath the ribs. If it's "only" the ribs, you'll need to avoid getting hit there-obviously- which might entail taking a few weeks off from dojo training, or you could resort to using a chest protector until you are healthy once again.
sandman
12-31-2010, 04:41 PM
yes i do!! but i have never done this before, and putting ice on my rib doesnt sound very pleasing :(
I have a strength training session at 12 oclock today, i told my trainer that i will confirm him in the morning if i would be able to take it or not. I am still deciding and finding it hard to tell him that i wont be able to come.......
Cancel it and make a date with the ice pack. The ice should help, lifting weights right now will not!
kakatootoshi
12-31-2010, 05:07 PM
yes i do!! but i have never done this before, and putting ice on my rib doesnt sound very pleasing :(
I have a strength training session at 12 oclock today, i told my trainer that i will confirm him in the morning if i would be able to take it or not. I am still deciding and finding it hard to tell him that i wont be able to come.......
You just truly need someone to kick you in the head!:mad:
It is not "pleasing" or "not pleasing", "I feel my spirit up" or "I feel my spirit down". ICING a fresh bruise is common sense, COMMON SENSE. There is no use sitting around the computer, asking advice from people you have not met before, waiting to see the doctor a few days later. Just ICE the bruise. While you ask so many questions about Karate, you do not know it is important to ICE an injury?:mad:I do not want to hear you complain anymore if you do not go get a cold pack to ice the ribs now. Now move!
And go to ER if necessary. Do not post online messages to ask "do I need to go to an ER?".:mad:
powerof0ne
12-31-2010, 05:15 PM
Netsecure, if you don't see a doctor some alien egg could hatch and eat itself out of your torso. I saw it happen in a few movies and I'm an internet expert you never met that you're seeking advice from, so you should pay attention. Make sure to tell your doctor about the alien eggs that you're certain are now waiting to hatch inside your body, too.
Osu!
senshido
12-31-2010, 05:17 PM
Kakatootoshi... just tried to rep you, for saying what I'm thinking.... sorry not allowed
and you PO1, sorry not allowed either... for making me laugh out loud!
netsecure
12-31-2010, 05:23 PM
:rolleyes:
powerof0ne
12-31-2010, 05:31 PM
:rolleyes:
Staying on the computer can cause the aliens to hatch quicker! It's been documented that staring at a monitor can trigger the hatching, be careful mate!
Osu!
netsecure
12-31-2010, 05:33 PM
Staying on the computer can cause the aliens to hatch quicker! It's been documented that staring at a monitor can trigger the hatching, be careful mate!
Osu!
:eek: it just hatched :mad::eek::eek:
powerof0ne
12-31-2010, 05:37 PM
:eek: it just hatched :mad::eek::eek:
The only way to save yourself is to shut down your computer or jump up and down on it and see a doctor!!! It's too late for alt + f4 in your case, you have to be tough if you want to survive. No retreat, no surrender!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HYRWkpBYl4
Osu!
netsecure
12-31-2010, 05:41 PM
woahhh!!! thats my fav song!!! i was listening to it a week ago
wullie
12-31-2010, 05:49 PM
Kakatootoshi... just tried to rep you, for saying what I'm thinking.... sorry not allowed
and you PO1, sorry not allowed either... for making me laugh out loud!
got you covered for PO1 :D, but the rep police got me for Kakatootoshi :(
senshido
12-31-2010, 05:52 PM
got you covered for PO1 :D, but the rep police got me for Kakatootoshi :(
cheers big ears!
netsecure
12-31-2010, 06:19 PM
i want reps too, rep police for me is very lenient ;)
jcarmello
12-31-2010, 06:59 PM
I am going to Rep you Netsecure, but not for effort or insight, no.......I am going to rep you for bringing out the absolute best of all your comrades here on K4L!! You have supplied me with some of the best belly busting, head ache causing, stiff cheek laughs on this thread alone!!
Please dont change!! You are awesome Netsecure!
Now......Kakatootoshi I tried to rep you (rep police).......I couldnt Finish reading you post after the first sentence.......I had to walk away from the computer, and get some air.
Scroll further and read PO1 post, and learning of his expertise and i am crying!!!
And Senshido.......is that a brotherly term of endearment?? "cheers big ears!!" CLASSIC!!!!!
OSU K4L!!!!
netsecure
12-31-2010, 08:00 PM
Thanks ;) I tried to rep axe kick for trying to be my daddy and scolding me but rep police caught me :(
jcarmello
12-31-2010, 08:25 PM
Thanks ;) I tried to rep axe kick for trying to be my daddy and scolding me but rep police caught me :(
hahahaha!!! You are a pistol!!!
FredInChina
12-31-2010, 09:01 PM
Kakatootoshi... just tried to rep you, for saying what I'm thinking.... sorry not allowed
and you PO1, sorry not allowed either... for making me laugh out loud!
Got'em both for you Senshido! :)
Repped JCarmello too for repping Netsecure... :)
Nope, I did not rep Netsecure... :D
OSu!
netsecure
12-31-2010, 09:28 PM
Got'em both for you Senshido! :)
Repped JCarmello too for repping Netsecure... :)
Nope, I did not rep Netsecure... :D
OSu!
:mad: why is tat?
kakatootoshi
12-31-2010, 09:38 PM
Thanks ;) I tried to rep axe kick for trying to be my daddy and scolding me but rep police caught me :(
Who is axe kick? A new member or a new friend of yours?:confused:
No I do not see anyone is trying to be your daddy here.;)
powerof0ne
12-31-2010, 09:39 PM
Who is axe kick? A new member or a new friend of yours?:confused:
No I do not see anyone is trying to be your daddy here.;)
Sounds like a new sort of "manga" between Netsecure and Kakatootoshi :D! Sorry, couldn't resist!
Osu!
sandman
12-31-2010, 10:55 PM
i want reps too, rep police for me is very lenient ;)
If you:
1) get your injury fixed without being a ding dong about it
2) train like you've never trained before - suck it up - don't post questions, just post the results you are obtaining
3) fight in that tournament in April and
3a) if you win, great
3b) if you lose, don't tell us how discouraged you are, but instead the lessons you learned and how you are going to do better in the next one
If you do all of those things, you will have reps showered upon you from the heavens. I swear it!
wullie
12-31-2010, 11:03 PM
If you:
1) get your injury fixed without being a ding dong about it
2) train like you've never trained before - suck it up - don't post questions, just post the results you are obtaining
3) fight in that tournament in April and
3a) if you win, great
3b) if you lose, don't tell us how discouraged you are, but instead the lessons you learned and how you are going to do better in the next one
If you do all of those things, you will have reps showered upon you from the heavens. I swear it!
Sandman, hope you don't mind me adding
4) don't ask for rep
Osu-EN1
sandman
12-31-2010, 11:57 PM
Sandman, hope you don't mind me adding
4) don't ask for rep
Osu-EN1
Yes Wullie - a very good addition there, thanks!
:)
jcbel
01-01-2011, 12:13 AM
3) fight in that tournament in April
Hey since when was fighting in tournaments compulsory for gaining rep?
Does he get extra rep for winning? :D:p
netsecure
01-01-2011, 01:01 AM
Who is axe kick? A new member or a new friend of yours?:confused:
No I do not see anyone is trying to be your daddy here.;)
you dont know axe kick?? :rolleyes::confused: Hes my japanese wanna be daddy.....
senshido
01-01-2011, 01:17 AM
Got'em both for you Senshido! :)
Repped JCarmello too for repping Netsecure... :)
Nope, I did not rep Netsecure... :D
OSu!
cheers Fred :)
harukaze
01-01-2011, 03:15 AM
Good Lord, I'm tempted to rep too, but -- for the first time -- of the negative variety. :rolleyes:
smoothsake
01-01-2011, 03:33 AM
Kakatootoshi, thanks for the laugh. You make K4L and shochu so much fun on NYE.
kakatootoshi
01-01-2011, 10:20 AM
1) get your injury fixed without being a ding dong about it2) train like you've never trained before - suck it up - don't post questions, just post the results you are obtaining
3) fight in that tournament in April and
3a) if you win, great
3b) if you lose, don't tell us how discouraged you are, but instead the lessons you learned and how you are going to do better in the next one
sandman you should have posted these much earlier! Together you and Hangtime can do a lot of necessary dirty work for Kyokushin4life and clean up the house.:)
If only one post is to be read in this thread, this is the one.
Repped.
you dont know axe kick?? :rolleyes::confused: Hes my japanese wanna be daddy.....
I am not sure if you are trying to be humourous (which you are not too good at), or you are trying to insult someone.:rolleyes: