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GJEC
10-15-2011, 06:05 PM
Received this today via email.

Especially like the bit (my highlight) in red:

WE ARE NOT A BLACK BELT SCHOOL.

“We are Not a Black Belt School” is the perfect (and appropriate) backlash to the last two decades of crass commercialization and watering down / lowering of standards for the rank of “black belt,” in
general, in the “martial arts industry.”

It all started with the martial arts schools of the 1960’s and ‘70’s looking for ways to
sell lessons. They ended up being influenced by and modeling how dance lessons were being
sold --and we became an industry that sold untaught lessons in longer and longer courses (buy
6 months, buy 100 lessons, buy a year, buy 3 years, shoot, here’s a 10 year course!).

We named them after the belt colors people could earn by training for whatever period of time
they signed up for (bought). There was the Gold Belt Course, then The Purple Belt Course, and
so on. The big fat carrot? The Black Belt course or Club (of course, that wasn’t enough, as we’re
Americans! The “BBC” was followed by the Master Club, The Grandmaster Club, The
Leadership Course, etc.). The courses very often had little or nothing to do with actual talent or
education, but a whole lot to do with the process of packaging lessons for sale.

And truthfully, for some school owners and students, it worked. People joined and paid for these
courses, saw the training through, and “graduated” with some fine skills. However, in far (FAR)
too many cases, people started getting sent to collection agencies because they stopped paying
for long courses they were no longer attending (and often for good reasons) --and worst of all,
many schools felt pressure to graduate people up the ranks, despite the fact that students
didn’t have “black belt” levels of skill.

I mean, how can you sell the Black Belt Club to prospective members when nobody ever earns
a black belt? Will little Johnny’s Mom and Dad shell out $5,000 for a course where students
never graduate? Nope. And friends, there were --and still are (I’ve heard) --schools out there
marketing and selling $5,000 and even $10,000 black belt courses to kids.

It’s my guess that these schools would point out the benefits of being a black belt, but I know all
too well, from actually sitting in seminars and meetings by schools like this, that the real goal is
to “get that gross (income) up.” I’ve heard a leader of a big chain of schools declare that he
knew for a fact that students were not going to stick around, so their plan was to "get as much
money as they can, as fast as they can." For real.

The Black Belt Club and “We Are a Black Belt School” has become synonymous with billing companies, high-pressure sales, big contracts, “paid-in-fulls” (the Holy Grail of the strip-mall karate school, a “PIF” means the teacher scored payment in full for a long term course), bogus “membership upgrades,” and situations like I personally witnessed last year when I watched a 10 year old (?) third-degree black belt perform that I swear to you shouldn't have been wearing a green belt. I was shocked speechless --but simply smiled and played the good guest (I was, after all, a guest at this teacher’s school, and I know for a fact that he didn’t promote that young man out of purposeful negligence, but because of, well...some other factors that I am, at the moment, unable to intelligently and objectively express).

We are NOT a Black Belt School! I love it! It’s the Adbuster’s Black Spot campaign for the martial arts world. We owe a nod of thanks, by the way, to the Brazilians, for only graduating jiu jitsu black belts who are actually black belts --and for not allowing kids under the age of 18 (or is it 21?) to wear the rank.We are NOT a Black Belt School! The Rebel Yell of martial arts teachers taking the martial arts back from the hands of dance studio operators and other opportunists. We are (NOT) a Black Belt School! It was, for a short time in the 80's, a smart thing, maybe even a good thing. Today, it's an embarrasment.

Maybe, someday, the black belt will come, once again, to represent something valuable and honorable, instead of a sales gimmick and a tool for greed.

Gary

Thunar
10-15-2011, 06:47 PM
As usual Gary you are absolutely right. My deepest respects to the way you act and the way you think.
Your attitude, values and commentaries are one of the few reasons I`m still in K4L. You show that there are still ethics inside this forum.

Osu Sensei!!

GJEC
10-16-2011, 03:10 PM
That's very kind of you to say Thunar.

Gary

polarbearfighter
10-16-2011, 08:20 PM
just curious:
What text is this?
You said you received it via email, but from whom and why?

OSU

powerof0ne
10-16-2011, 09:00 PM
I believe it's 19, and that's an exception, in the case of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. The youngest you're supposed to be, to get your blue belt, is 16. So in the case of kids in BJJ, you will see, yellow, green belts, orange, etc. that aren't even available to the adult syllabus. For somebody to be a 19 y/o BJJ black belt means they probably started when they were 9 or younger. As soon as they're 16, they are promoted to blue belt, more or less. They can even be promoted to purple belt that same year but I believe the youngest is 17-18 for brown, and they must be a brown belt for at least a year to be promoted to black belt..and the youngest age possible for that under the IBJJF is 19. Legit 19 y/o BJJ black belts aren't that common. The standard has been kept high enough that I even have known Gracie members that were 19-22 y/o that were only purple to brown.

If you meet an 19-25 y/o black belt in BJJ, there are a couple of things to keep in mind. 1. If you do a google search on them and their name doesn't pop up in competing in any nogi or BJJ tournaments, they're more then likely not the real deal. 2. If you google their name and see they've been training since they're kids, they're the real deal LOL!

The BJJ school I trained at for many years has a simple philosophy. You need to be able to hold your own with others of that rank to be even considered for promotion. This is why tournaments play an important part in BJJ, in the ranking. Tournaments are a way to prove that you're ready to be promoted in rank. If a white belt is able to beat some blue belts, go the distance with them without being submitted, etc...that white belt will probably be promoted to blue belt and so on.

I do a similar thing with my own students in rank. If I see that they can hold their own at that level, I'll have a grading for them at that grade.
Osu!
ps It is possible to be promoted to black belt in BJJ without competing but it's typically a longer road to travel. However, meeting a 19 y/o BJJ black belt that never competed is so rare, I don't think you'll find one unless the standards go down.

GJEC
10-17-2011, 07:32 AM
just curious:
What text is this?
You said you received it via email, but from whom and why?

OSU

I haven't got a clue why I received it. It was from "Tom Callos" and I don't know who he is or what group/association he represents.

I still liked the slogan though ...

Gary

bobh
10-19-2011, 03:10 AM
I swear to you I thought of it first! We are NOT a black belt school. I shoulda' coined it. ;-) I actually take great pleasure in telling parents and prospective students that we don't have children black belts.

However, I will one day run into a situation where a junior will hold a "junior" black belt (for example my daughter one day, I hope. She's been in class for 7 years and she's 12.) And they will have to re-test as an adult.

We'll never restore the entire industry, imo. But I can start in my school and work outward from there.

senshido
10-19-2011, 09:22 AM
Bob, thats what I do at the moment, Junior black belts have to re-sit their test when they are adults, I dont have any other dan grade for juniors other than shodan.
If they were to fail the senior test they would become a senior 1st kyu.