Pornsaneh Sitmonchai - Leg Kick - Muay Thai Minute

[Shokei Marcsui]

Originally taken from: http://www.mymuaythai.com/archives/muay-thai-minute-pornsaneh-sitmonchai/

Pornsaneh Sitmonchai is notorious for his leg kicks. He does not win by points much because of his fondness for leg kicks. Here he demonstrates his version of the kick.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mbabH61XYw&feature=feedu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rpceDIK5g4

[sandman]

I would not enjoy getting kicked in the leg by that guy! Thanks for the vids Shokei :)

[Hangtime]

Those look brutal...

I feel good knowing the same fundamental steps in his video are the same that I use in my class (targeting, lower, lower/pivot). :)

Thanks for the vids!

OSU!

[Shokei Marcsui]

I particularly like his explanation of distance utilizing the arms. Really drives home the importance of the jab and teep (front kick) as feelers and range finders.

I feel good knowing the same fundamental steps in his video are the same that I use in my class (targeting, lower, lower/pivot).

Great technique is great technique.

[jcc]

I particularly like his explanation of distance utilizing the arms.

Osu!

Yup, have to agree there! :)

I was also taught not to just throw the kick, but to use the arms, jab or combo to set it up.

Osu!

[meguro]

I particularly like his explanation of distance utilizing the arms. Really drives home the importance of the jab and teep (front kick) as feelers and range finders.


Thanks for sharing, SM. The instructional vid is a good reminder about the importance of range. I like the idea of unbalancing your opponent with the lead hand when he attempts a sune uke.

[harukaze]

Love it! Thanks for sharing! :cool:

[powerof0ne]

This is the bread and butter of Muay Thai...creating distance, unbalancing your opponent, and attacking. There is a huge emphasis of keeping your balance in Thai style Muay Thai, more so then I've seen in any other martial art. It's in other martial arts, no argument there, but I have never seen it as emphasized as it is in Muay Thai. However, that doesn't mean I'm wrong, I highly suspect it also has a place in Judo, as well.

What's remarkable is that you rarely ever see a Thai lose by way of "leg kick knock out." It's considered a bad way to lose in Thailand, not because you beat your opponent that way, but the average Thaiboxer is skilled enough to avoid having this happen to them...this says a lot about Pornsaneh's mastery of the technique.
Osu!

[harukaze]

This is the bread and butter of Muay Thai...creating distance, unbalancing your opponent, and attacking. There is a huge emphasis of keeping your balance in Thai style Muay Thai, more so then I've seen in any other martial art. It's in other martial arts, no argument there, but I have never seen it as emphasized as it is in Muay Thai. However, that doesn't mean I'm wrong, I highly suspect it also has a place in Judo, as well.

Osu!

The most ironic thing is that as of late, so many non-Thai-trained (so-called) MT practitioners have atrocious balance, swinging their roundhouses, elbows, backhands, and combinations wildly thinking that they've captured the "raw power of Muay Thai" or some silly BS like that. It's like some terrible caricature of precisely what you described as the essence of real MT.

... And yes, creating distance, unbalancing the opponent, and attacking while keeping your own balance is just WEE bit emphasized in Judo. ;) :D

[powerof0ne]

The most ironic thing is that as of late, so many non-Thai-trained (so-called) MT practitioners have atrocious balance, swinging their roundhouses, elbows, backhands, and combinations wildly thinking that they've captured the "raw power of Muay Thai" or some silly BS like that. It's like some terrible caricature of precisely what you described as the essence of real MT.

... And yes, creating distance, unbalancing the opponent, and attacking while keeping your own balance is just WEE bit emphasized in Judo. ;) :D
I don't consider myself a judoka, but from what I know of Judo I only imagined this was also important in Judo ;).

For a striking art, I haven't seen balance emphasized as much as it is in Muay Thai. I'm not saying it's not important in karate, but it's not emphasized as much as it is in the Muay Thai I have learned.

I don't know where this silly do a 360 spin after you miss your roundhouse gained popularity as a "Muay Thai thing" to do? Every Thai I've trained under yells at you if you do such a stupid move. I found this out the hard way the first time I was shadow boxing under Thai trainers 10 years ago or so and would do this, they started yelling at me and told me to never expose my back LOL.

I agree with you, far too many dojo/gyms in westernized countries that claim to teach Muay Thai don't know it. I'll never even claim to teach Muay Thai anymore, myself, but I will teach techniques and strategies I learned while in Muay Thai...but I incorporate a lot of other techniques as well.

Unfortunately, I think it's hard to teach authentic Muay Thai to the average hobbyist, at least in my own experience trying to do so. To me, to really do Muay Thai requires a good 5-6 days a week of training it..at least 2 hours each session under an experienced instructor. Good pad holders don't grow on trees...*sigh*...life would be much easier if they did.
Osu!

[AcadianShadow]

Great vids,Notice he mostly right leg kicks after a left hand punch.Same theory as a punch?the retreating arm gives power to the punching arm.OSS

[hokuto12]

Osu

Thanks for sharing, was great and also good to see it in a fight.

[harukaze]

Good pad holders don't grow on trees...*sigh*...life would be much easier if they did.
Osu!

QFT! A good pad holder is more than worth his weight in gold! I remember when I first started MT, Bunkerd was wise enough to teach us n00bs how to hold the pads. It seems like such a simple thing to do, yet so few ever do go over it. Of course, being taught is one thing, being able to do it consistently under a barrage of strikes and against your own fatigue -- well, that goes back to my comment about the worth of a good pad holder! :D

[jcarmello]

QFT! A good pad holder is more than worth his weight in gold! I remember when I first started MT, Bunkerd was wise enough to teach us n00bs how to hold the pads. It seems like such a simple thing to do, yet so few ever do go over it. Of course, being taught is one thing, being able to do it consistently under a barrage of strikes and against your own fatigue -- well, that goes back to my comment about the worth of a good pad holder! :D

Man oh man I agree with this statement. Focus is a huge plus with a pad holder as well as strength and conditioning. I know how working with an erratic striker can wear you down as you ar always waiting and reaching to assist.

That said, I find it easier to work with a more experienced individual who sets a rhythm to work with. Its a work out but much more tolerable!

[harukaze]

Man oh man I agree with this statement. Focus is a huge plus with a pad holder as well as strength and conditioning. I know how working with an erratic striker can wear you down as you ar always waiting and reaching to assist.

That said, I find it easier to work with a more experienced individual who sets a rhythm to work with. Its a work out but much more tolerable!

Osu! Not to mention an erratic striker's (mis)placement of some (or all) of his strikes makes the pad holder's day all the worse haha. The relationship between a striker and a pad holder is most definitely one of mutual welfare -- both serve to improve each other. In all honesty, I can only name about a half-dozen people with whom I've trained as being great pad holders; it's not always the best fighter that's the best pad holder (although the two are not always mutually exclusive). :D

[jcbel]

Nice vids, thanks for posting!

I would not enjoy getting kicked in the leg by that guy!

You can take him after you do your "Kicking the Junk out of Cancer" fundraiser! ;):p

[jlee24]

Another great example of the low kick by Tongchai. Great setup with the elbow to deliver the final blow at 4:51.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5MSuNt50bA

[harukaze]

Another great example of the low kick by Tongchai. Great setup with the elbow to deliver the final blow at 4:51.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5MSuNt50bA

Nice match! Tongchai's opponent didn't play such a smart strategy chasing with the knees when Tongchai was using the low kicks to ward him off like that.

[powerof0ne]

Nice match! Tongchai's opponent didn't play such a smart strategy chasing with the knees when Tongchai was using the low kicks to ward him off like that.
I think his opponent believed in his own hype that no leg kick can hurt him ;). Seriously though, this is part of the "Thaiboxing mentality," for every step back, take two steps forward, that you're more or less invincible. I will say this way of thinking can work to a point but if you fight enough like this, it will catch up to you...I'd say many of us in knockdown karate styles have the same mentality at times, too.

I agree with you, why not teep if you have an opponent that's going to keep banging away at your legs?
Osu!

[harukaze]

I think his opponent believed in his own hype that no leg kick can hurt him ;). Seriously though, this is part of the "Thaiboxing mentality," for every step back, take two steps forward, that you're more or less invincible. I will say this way of thinking can work to a point but if you fight enough like this, it will catch up to you...I'd say many of us in knockdown karate styles have the same mentality at times, too.

I agree with you, why not teep if you have an opponent that's going to keep banging away at your legs?
Osu!

Osu! Seems like many full contact martial artists have the same mentality haha! :D

[Dent]

Osu!

I don't know where this silly do a 360 spin after you miss your roundhouse gained popularity as a "Muay Thai thing" to do? Every Thai I've trained under yells at you if you do such a stupid move.

Ever get the swift kick in the lower back? Far faster than explaining the why not, and no need for English! :D

Osu!

[powerof0ne]

Osu!



Ever get the swift kick in the lower back? Far faster than explaining the why not, and no need for English! :D

Osu!
This is exactly what I had the first time I did it in front of a Thai trainer! I was just shadow boxing, and I had two Thai trainers sizing me up that very first time shadow boxing. I think I threw a simple jab, cross, hook, and the "360 roundhouse," kick to my back...the one Thai trainer that spoke decent English yelled "never show back," and then they showed me the "proper way" of kicking...that simple lesson stuck to me ever since and something I stress to my own students even though at a tournament about a month ago I had a student of mine take it a step further....spinning around when not even kicking, showing his back...coincidentally, "Seattle" from here, was the ref for that match LOL.
Osu!

[harukaze]

Osu!



Ever get the swift kick in the lower back? Far faster than explaining the why not, and no need for English! :D

Osu!

Sometimes it even happens without the full 360. :o
(At about 2:20 -- OUCH!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5C8s0l97bxI

[Dent]

Osu!

Nice one, Harukaze! It's a real wake-up for an area that gets little conditioning! :D

Osu!

[harukaze]

Hahaha, attempting to buff up my lats as we speak! :D