KWF World Cup/Kyokushin Karate Grand Prix 2013

[kakatootoshi]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfjUUwjrrKc

This event is going to be held 1/20 next year in Chiba Port Arena.

It SEEMS like all fractions are welcome.

The website for the venue:
http://chibacity.spo-sin.or.jp/shisetu/arena-top.html

[Daihi]

Ukrainian team waiting for the flight on this tournament. I am happy that I am going in Japan to KWF World Cup/Kyokushin Karate Grand Prix 2013.
Who flight on this tournament?

[Karate4Life]

Ukrainian team waiting for the flight on this tournament. I am happy that I am going in Japan to KWF World Cup/Kyokushin Karate Grand Prix 2013.
Who flight on this tournament?

OSU! Andriy,

somehow the video does not work. What's wrong there?

OSU!

[Daihi]

OSU! Andriy,

somehow the video does not work. What's wrong there?

OSU!

I need to make 15 posts, then I can give the link.:)
I'll give you a link in PMOsu-JP1

[Karate4Life]

I need to make 15 posts, then I can give the link.:)
I'll give you a link in PMOsu-JP1

OK mate, keep on posting! :)

By the way, that's great if all factions are welcome there!

[Daihi]

OK mate, keep on posting! :)

By the way, that's great if all factions are welcome there!

Osu!
I sent link in Your PM
Video KWF World Cup/Kyokushin Karate Grand Prix 2013.
Osu-EN1

[sandman]

Osu!
I sent link in Your PM
Video KWF World Cup/Kyokushin Karate Grand Prix 2013.
Osu-EN1

Ok karate4life - remember there is nothing in the rules prohibiting you from sharing that link with the rest of us since your post count is high enough. Just sayin'... ;)

[Daihi]

Ok karate4life - remember there is nothing in the rules prohibiting you from sharing that link with the rest of us since your post count is high enough. Just sayin'... ;)
I put a link.* but it shows the following:
To be able to post links your post count must be 15 or greater. Your post count is 7 momentarily.

Please remove links from your message, then you will be able to submit your post.

[Karate4Life]

Ok karate4life - remember there is nothing in the rules prohibiting you from sharing that link with the rest of us since your post count is high enough. Just sayin'... ;)

Hehe, yes. I'll keep it in mind.

Andriy, don't forget sending the link, I'll be glad to post it here. Thank you!
OSU!

[sandman]

I put a link.* but it shows the following:
To be able to post links your post count must be 15 or greater. Your post count is 7 momentarily.

Please remove links from your message, then you will be able to submit your post.

No worries - I was directing my post to karate4life - you sent it to him in a private message, so he can post the link on the open forum since his post count is high enough :)

[Daihi]

Hehe, yes. I'll keep it in mind.

Andriy, don't forget sending the link, I'll be glad to post it here. Thank you!
OSU!

I sent a link in PM, 10-15 min ago...

[Karate4Life]

OSU!

I sent a link in PM, 10-15 min ago...

Hey Andriy, no, nothing has arrived on my message account. :confused:

OSU!

[Daihi]

OSU!



Hey Andriy, no, nothing has arrived on my message account. :confused:

OSU!
I do not have 15 posts:mad:
look in my profile, contact info and go to the site.

[Karate4Life]

I do not have 15 posts:mad:
look in my profile, contact info and go to the site.

OK, here we go:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHWZpjhRUfs&feature=player_embedded

Hope that works. Thanks for posting anyway, Sensei Andriy! :)

OSU!

[Daihi]

Osu! Thank You! I hope to our friendship be a good:).

[Karate4Life]

Osu! Thank You! I hope to our friendship be a good:).

OSU Andriy, be assured it will!! :)

Do you think that the future course of the KWF will be that all events will be open for all members of any faction? If so, that would be a good way ahead of Shihan Hollander. You know, I am originally from GoJu Ryu, Kyokushin is really very new for me. Your answer would be highly appreciated.

OSU!

[Daihi]

Now upload Competitors of KWF World Cup/Kyokushin Karate Grand Prix 2013.

[Daihi]

OSU Andriy, be assured it will!! :)

Do you think that the future course of the KWF will be that all events will be open for all members of any faction? If so, that would be a good way ahead of Shihan Hollander. You know, I am originally from GoJu Ryu, Kyokushin is really very new for me. Your answer would be highly appreciated.

OSU!

I not think, I'm sure that the future course of the KWF will be that all events will be open for all members of any faction. It is now working.
To Our events in Ukraine come from other IKO, and everyone is happy:D

[Karate4Life]

OSU!

I not think, I'm sure that the future course of the KWF will be that all events will be open for all members of any faction. It is now working.
To Our events in Ukraine come from other IKO, and everyone is happy:D

Aw, that's great, after all we all punch and kick, regardless of faction... And Karate is Karate :)

OSU!

[Daihi]

OSU!



Aw, that's great, after all we all punch and kick, regardless of faction... And Karate is Karate :)

OSU!

Yes, 100% you are rights!
Sosai words: one World - one Kyokushin.

[sandman]

There we go! Nice cooperation there - thanks karate4life for helping get the video up, and thank you Daihi for sharing it :)

[Daihi]

There we go! Nice cooperation there - thanks karate4life for helping get the video up, and thank you Daihi for sharing it :)

No problem. Always happy to help:D
Osu-EN1

[Karate4Life]

OSU!

http://www.kyokushin-ukraine.org/Competitors.xls"]Competitors file of KWF Grand-Prix 2013[/COLOR] (Devision file of KWF Grand-Prix 2013 ([COLOR="blue)

Sorry to bother you again, sensei, but these links also don't work... :confused:

OSU!

[Daihi]

Update links
Competitors file of KWF Grand-Prix 2013 (http://www.kyokushin-ukraine.org/Competitors.xls)
Devision file of KWF Grand-Prix 2013 (http://www.kyokushin-ukraine.org/Kumite-Division-Number.pdf)

[Daihi]

OSU!



Sorry to bother you again, sensei, but these links also don't work... :confused:

OSU!

Not necessarily call me Sensei:). You can just Andrew or Andrei.
Osu!

[Karate4Life]

Not necessarily call me Sensei:). You can just Andrew or Andrei.
Osu!

OSU! OK, Andriy, now it works!

Have fun here, and hope to meet you in person someday on a KWF event!

Christian

EDIT: Nobody from Germany??

[Daihi]

OSU! OK, Andriy, now it works!

Have fun here, and hope to meet you in person someday on a KWF event!

Christian

EDIT: Nobody from Germany??

Maybe I'll see you:).
Yes.
No teams from Italy and Germany:(.

[skipau]

What i don't get is why they have it in Japan when it is a European karate organisation... plus there doesn't even seem to be any fighters from Japan.

The cost must be pretty big to get there for the fighters and their supporters. I am all for having things in Japan but I reckon they would have got a lot more support if they held it in their own area.

Anyway - looks like it will be a good tournament - lets hope for some streaming or youtube action on the day!

[kakatootoshi]

What i don't get is why they have it in Japan when it is a European karate organisation... plus there doesn't even seem to be any fighters from Japan.

The cost must be pretty big to get there for the fighters and their supporters. I am all for having things in Japan but I reckon they would have got a lot more support if they held it in their own area.

Anyway - looks like it will be a good tournament - lets hope for some streaming or youtube action on the day!

KWF is quite small in Japan I think. But I remember there is a Tanaka Dojo since they often post the videos of a female fighter "Sato Erika" on youtube. They post so many that "TANAKA DOJO SATO ERIKA" starts to ring in your head. :eek::D

And Chiba is the turf of this Dojo so I think if the tournament is held in Japan, it has to be in Chiba.

[skipau]

Roger kakatootoshi!

I didn't realize that they had Japanese dojos now etc.. so makes sense to some degree now.

[Daihi]

What i don't get is why they have it in Japan when it is a European karate organisation... plus there doesn't even seem to be any fighters from Japan.

The cost must be pretty big to get there for the fighters and their supporters. I am all for having things in Japan but I reckon they would have got a lot more support if they held it in their own area.

Anyway - looks like it will be a good tournament - lets hope for some streaming or youtube action on the day!

In the list of files only to foreign fighter.
No doubt the Japanese will also fight with them.
Osu-EN1

[Daihi]

KWF is quite small in Japan I think. But I remember there is a Tanaka Dojo since they often post the videos of a female fighter "Sato Erika" on youtube. They post so many that "TANAKA DOJO SATO ERIKA" starts to ring in your head. :eek::D

And Chiba is the turf of this Dojo so I think if the tournament is held in Japan, it has to be in Chiba.

Osu!
You right. Tournament organized by Noriyuki Tanaka Shihan. The tournament is held in Japan, in Chiba.

[49ers1970]

Osu! Sounds very interesting.

It represents the type of competition we all wish for?

However, sometimes the powers to be of an organization can/will

forbid some of their top fighters from competing for reasons I wish not

to know of.

There are organizations like the World Kumite organization who have

an open door policy to all factions of Kyokushin which make for very interesting

and not often seen matchups. However, has there been any word on some of the

other major Kyokushin groups such as IKO 1, IKO 2 etc.?

Osu!

[kakatootoshi]

Osu! Sounds very interesting.

It represents the type of competition we all wish for?

However, sometimes the powers to be of an organization can/will

forbid some of their top fighters from competing for reasons I wish not

to know of.

There are organizations like the World Kumite organization who have

an open door policy to all factions of Kyokushin which make for very interesting

and not often seen matchups. However, has there been any word on some of the

other major Kyokushin groups such as IKO 1, IKO 2 etc.?

Osu!

I know a few small groups in Japan are sending their fighters, but Matsuiha and Shinkyokushinkai are not sending any of their top fighters.

Why Apple products are selling so well despite having a closed system? A literally open tournament is not necessarily a good tournament. In fact I can say that the best tournaments usually are not the ones with a whole array of different Full Contact styles.

[Karate4Life]

OSU!

In fact I can say that the best tournaments usually are not the ones with a whole array of different Full Contact styles.

That's interesting. Would you define the term "best" in this regard?

On a sidenote, if no German team is attending, then it's not a legit tournament... :D

OSU!

[slaine]

In fact I can say that the best tournaments usually are not the ones with a whole array of different Full Contact styles.

Yes interesting perspective could you go a little deeper into this Kakatootoshi .

[kakatootoshi]

OSU!



That's interesting. Would you define the term "best" in this regard?

On a sidenote, if no German team is attending, then it's not a legit tournament... :D

OSU!

Well, if I define "best", someone will ask me to define "Kyokushin", "Karate" and even "tournament". It is unending as always, no disrespect.

Matsuiha and Shinkyokushinkai have their own very prestigious world tournaments and they gain nothing by sending their very top fighters to the world tournaments of the others. On the other hand smaller groups will be happy to work together or join the tournaments of the major groups. The world tournaments of Matsuiha and Shinkyokushinkai are usually held at Tokyo Taiikukan (a very prestigious venue), and this is a statement.

Well before another person pops up and ask the definition of what there is to "gain", I will say it does not include friendship, brotherhood, world peace, wisdom, love etc.

[Karate4Life]

Well, if I define "best", someone will ask me to define "Kyokushin", "Karate" and even "tournament". It is unending as always, no disrespect.

Matsuiha and Shinkyokushinkai have their own very prestigious world tournaments and they gain nothing by sending their very top fighters to the world tournaments of the others. On the other hand smaller groups will be happy to work together or join the tournaments of the major groups.

Well before another person pops up and ask the definition of what there is to "gain", I will say it does not include friendship, brotherhood, world peace, wisdom, love etc.

Haha, while we're at it, please define Kyokushin. :D

Anyway, you didn't answer my question. Why is a tournament which is open for all factions potetially not the best one?

OSU!

[kakatootoshi]

Haha, while we're at it, please define Kyokushin. :D

Anyway, you didn't answer my question. Why is a tournament which is open for all factions potetially not the best one?

OSU!

Sorry it is just an observation, I admit that I am only knowledgeable in a very confined part of Kyokushin, and I am sure that people can raise examples of "truly open" tournaments which they consider are very good.:)

Or perhaps the only point I have been trying to make is when we are making a wish, it makes a major difference whether we are a 3rd party or we are putting our own whatever-we-care-about at stake. I do not think Matsuiha and Shinkyokushinkai, even if the tournament is in Japan, will ever be interested in sending some of their named Japanese fighters to start with (and I know what Japanese groups are fighting in this tournament and I do not want to suggest that they are "small, you know;))

But skipau is right, in view of the composition of KWF, it is best to have their world tournament held outside Japan.

[Karate4Life]

OSU!

Hm, I see your point and fully agree. I don't see IKO1/2 sending their fighters to a tournament organized by a "new" faction, especially in the light of the fact that several of the people in charge hold grudges against each other. No political statement or discussion intended here, I guess that's really a solid fact that's well-known in our community.

Anyway, I'd simply love to see a tourney happening in which ALL factions will happily partake. I mean, with new Kyokushin organizations popping up every other day, I guess the question if a world tournament should really be called that way is justified, not to mention the technical level of such tournaments. For me, a tournament including ALL factions would be the "best" event.

Just my opinion though...

OSU!

[kakatootoshi]

OSU!

Hm, I see your point and fully agree. I don't see IKO1/2 sending their fighters to a tournament organized by a "new" faction, especially in the light of the fact that several of the people in charge hold grudges against each other. No political statement or discussion intended here, I guess that's really a solid fact that's well-known in our community.

Now you have put it into words! KWF is a splinter group from Matsuiha born not very long ago. Seeing the circumstances of the separation, Matsuiha is just not going to send any men to a KWF tournament in Japan. Call it grudge or company policy or anything.

[49ers1970]

I know a few small groups in Japan are sending their fighters, but Matsuiha and Shinkyokushinkai are not sending any of their top fighters.

Why Apple products are selling so well despite having a closed system? A literally open tournament is not necessarily a good tournament. In fact I can say that the best tournaments usually are not the ones with a whole array of different Full Contact styles.

Osu! Kakatooshi,

On one hand your statement could be correct. If you do have a closed

tournament, a. the fighters are most likely familiar with one another's

strengths/weaknesses and perhaps there are less surprises resulting

in more tight knit matches. b. all fighters in the closed tournament are

familiar with the rules, therefore perhaps the match and tournament could

be more smooth running and c. If a tournament consists of fighters primarily

of one style, there is a much higher probability of a champion coming out of

that one style, therefore enabling the founder and branch chiefs as stating

that, "we have so many champions from our system over the so many

years.............." This is a good marketing tool for bringing in more students.

The counter-argument to this is:

a. There are exceptional fighters who compete in different knockdown

venues and are able to adjust to the individual tournament rules

and are successful in placing and winning the whole tournament.

Ej.: The late Tomasz Kucharewski, Arne Soldewedel etc.

b. Fighting with the same fighters from the same style all the time can

sometimes bring a certain familiarity/comfort level. Fighting an

established fighter from another system creates a certain uncertainty.

This forces the fighter to adapt on the fly. This makes for some

interesting fights.

On the "B" level tournament scene, in America, I have witnessed some

interesting matches in the Sabaki Challenge, World Oyama tournaments etc.

with fighters from different splinter groups competing against each other.

To conclude, from a marketing and business standpoint, having one's

tournament, a closed tournament can be a smart thing. However, for the

individual fighter and in the Spirit of Budo, the more variety of opponents one

takes on over the course of his/her career, the better off he/she will be in

the long run.

Also, perhaps another important point to your statement, Kakootoshi,

at least in the present day, perhaps it could be quite possible that the

caliber of fighters on the World Stage in IKO 1 and IKO 2 are considerably

better than in the other World events or smaller events, that maybe they

feel, "Why should we have to allow other fighters from other styles into our

tournament if we already have the best fighters in the world in our event?"

"Why water down the quality of our event with potentially lesser fighters?"

I am not stating the above, I am just speculating another reason for a closed

tournament.

Osu!

[Karate4Life]

Couldn't it even be explained easier? From what I gather from many sources I find in the internet, many many discussion about Kyokushin seem to be on a very emotional level, and sometimes I really shake my head about what I read: Sadly it's very often sheer vanity and arrogance. Very often I am reminded of my own kids playing in the sandpit: "That's my shovel!", "No, it's mine!", "Mine!", "Mine!" *whack* "Mooom! Daaaad!".

That said, I figure it's mostly a matter of principle: For better or worse, different factions are just not allowed to mix. No real reason behind it. But in this way you will never get the "best" tournament, and I agree to what 49ers1970 wrote.

Just saying...

OSU!

[kakatootoshi]

Also, perhaps another important point to your statement, Kakootoshi,

at least in the present day, perhaps it could be quite possible that the

caliber of fighters on the World Stage in IKO 1 and IKO 2 are considerably

better than in the other World events or smaller events, that maybe they

feel, "Why should we have to allow other fighters from other styles into our

tournament if we already have the best fighters in the world in our event?"

"Why water down the quality of our event with potentially lesser fighters?"

I am not stating the above, I am just speculating another reason for a closed

tournament.

Osu!

At times, we see fighters from certain friendly groups at Matsuiha and Shinkyokushinkai tournaments so they are not "absolutely" closed. I think you understand very well the reason of not sending fighters to other smaller tournaments. If they win, they just win some "inferior" tournaments but if they lose, people from the smaller groups can claim that "WOW we have defeated World Champ or All-Japan Champ from Matsuiha/Shinkyokushinkai!". Matsuiha and Shinkyokushinkai simply gain nothing by sending their top men to other people's Karate events, especially those events with more empty seats than audience.




b. Fighting with the same fighters from the same style all the time can

sometimes bring a certain familiarity/comfort level. Fighting an

established fighter from another system creates a certain uncertainty.

This forces the fighter to adapt on the fly. This makes for some

interesting fights.

Osu!

I agree! And that is why the in the tournaments of smaller groups there are always an array of different groups and the "uncertainty" and "interesting fights" will benefit them more.



a. There are exceptional fighters who compete in different knockdown

venues and are able to adjust to the individual tournament rules

and are successful in placing and winning the whole tournament.


I am sure there are examples all over the world but for obvious reasons, an organisation will be more willing to send their best fighters to other tournaments when there is nothing to lose. Matsuiha and Shinkyokushinkai are too large to put their best fighters at stakes. Fighting in MMA or Kickboxing is a different story because that is not Karate.

[kakatootoshi]

I have a suggestion for the moderators, since much of this thread has been focusing on "why major groups are not sending fighters to tournaments of smaller groups?/Closed vs Open tournaments ", can we move that part of our discussion to a new thread or existing threads of similar themes? It will be unfair to KWF members or people who are closely watching the KWF tournament if the bulk of the discussion is not about the tournament itself.

[Karate4Life]

I have a suggestion for the moderators, since much of this thread has been focusing on "why major groups are not sending fighters to tournaments of smaller groups?/Closed vs Open tournaments ", can we move that part of our discussion to a new thread or existing threads of similar themes? It will be unfair to KWF members or people who are closely watching the KWF tournament if the bulk of the discussion is not about the tournament itself.

Good idea! Since I am a member of the KWF myself, I would not want to miss out on any discussion.

[Daihi]

I have a suggestion for the moderators, since much of this thread has been focusing on "why major groups are not sending fighters to tournaments of smaller groups?/Closed vs Open tournaments ", can we move that part of our discussion to a new thread or existing threads of similar themes? It will be unfair to KWF members or people who are closely watching the KWF tournament if the bulk of the discussion is not about the tournament itself.

OSU!
Really, good idea:) I think, people have something to say.

[Boaretto]

I would like to participate. But, sponsors and help here to events as this is hard to find.

[Daihi]

I would like to participate. But, sponsors and help here to events as this is hard to find.

I'm very sorry. We also go for their money. The sponsors now it is difficult to everywhere

[Daihi]

Osu!
Final list of participants
Link (http://www.kyokushin-ukraine.org/japan-2013.htm)

[kakatootoshi]

KWF World Cup 2013

Results

-70kg
1 Baurzhan Kumiskaliyev(KWF Kazakhstan)
2 Endo Hirofumi (Nishiyama Dojo)
3 Hrachik Grigoryan(KWF Armenia)
3 Bereket Nurbayev(KWF Kazakhstan)

-80kg
1 Naoki Morita(Miyamoto Dojo)
2 Ogawa Ryo(KWF Japan)
3 Yevgeni Akulov(KWF Kazakhstan)
3 Rasmus Orstad(KWF Norway)

-90kg
1 Arsen Khachatryan(KWF Armeia)
2 Pablo Estensoro(KWF Spain)
3 Marchin Grzeszczuk(KWF Poland)
3 Omae Hirotaka(KWF Japan)

+90kg
1 Alexey Gorokhov(KWF Russia)
2 Ferry Hoogeveen(KWF Netherlands)
3 Nisiyama Hagane(Nishiyama Dojo)
3 Mauro Hrerrera(KWF Argentina)

[kakatootoshi]

+90kg
Alexey Gorokhov(KWF Russia)
Final vs Ferry Hoogeveen(KWF Netherlands)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RS55JJVr7E
Semi-final vs Nisiyama Hagane(Nishiyama Dojo)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WQvOmbRiOo

-90kg
Arsen Khachatryan(KWF Armeia)
Final vs Pablo Estensoro(KWF Spain)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9f8jfckA6as
Semi-final vs Marchin Grzeszczuk(KWF Poland)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEZrVeSjM_4

[Boaretto]

Great, Kakatootoshi ! Well done !

[kakatootoshi]

No one talks about this World Cup?

[slaine]

No one talks about this World Cup?

Judging by audience attendance it looks like nobody watches it either .

[kakatootoshi]

Looks like there were even less people than the poorly attended pre-split Rengokai World Cup.

Judging by audience attendance it looks like nobody watches it either .

According to the official news blog, this event would be covered by both Japanese and overseas tv, and that the Polish ambassador was going to come so I thought it was a big tournament.

Guess I was cheated.:(

[slaine]

Looks like there were even less people than the poorly attended pre-split Rengokai World Cup.

Guess I was cheated.:(

OSU Kakatootoshi it looks like you are right on both accounts , is this the future ?

[Karate4Life]

OSU Kakatootoshi it looks like you are right on both accounts , is this the future ?

Probably, with new Kyokushin organizations popping up every other day. And then the KWF is still young and new so it will not attract too many people (yet?). But then, I have seen footage from a Shinkyokushin world cup, and the hall was nearly empty as well. Go figure...

[ashiharakaicho]

KWF World Cup 2013
Results
-70kg
2 Endo Hirofumi (Nishiyama Dojo)
+90kg
3 Nisiyama Hagane(Nishiyama Dojo)


Is this same Nishiyama Dojo as in Ashihara Tokyo?

OSU-EN2

[slaine]

Probably, with new Kyokushin organizations popping up every other day. And then the KWF is still young and new so it will not attract too many people (yet?). But then, I have seen footage from a Shinkyokushin world cup, and the hall was nearly empty as well. Go figure...

It seems that IKO ( Matsui ) is still the biggest show in town and maybe to some degree it's because it's still seen as Sosai's tournament .

[ashiharakaicho]

It seems that IKO ( Matsui ) is still the biggest show in town and maybe to some degree it's because it's still seen as Sosai's tournament .

You right on that count - perhaps too his marketing is better?

OSU-EN2

[Karate4Life]

It seems that IKO ( Matsui ) is still the biggest show in town and maybe to some degree it's because it's still seen as Sosai's tournament .

True, and Kancho Matsui's name is also a good trademark, I guess.

[FredInChina]

True, and Kancho Matsui's name is also a good trademark, I guess.

with 20,000,000 members, it is little surprise.... :p


Osu!

[kakatootoshi]

Is this same Nishiyama Dojo as in Ashihara Tokyo?

OSU-EN2

Yes it is the same as Tokyo Honbu.

[kakatootoshi]

This KWF World Cup simply has zero search results from Japanese google news.

You right on that count - perhaps too his marketing is better?

OSU-EN2

Prime locations, good advertising, best fighters.

Probably, with new Kyokushin organizations popping up every other day. And then the KWF is still young and new so it will not attract too many people (yet?). But then, I have seen footage from a Shinkyokushin world cup, and the hall was nearly empty as well. Go figure...

Which year was that?

[Karate4Life]

TBH I don't remember, it was one of the random videos found on youtube on a late evening. But I remember thinking "Hm, are there any other spectators beside athletes, coaches, friends and family"?

[kakatootoshi]

And then the KWF is still young and new so it will not attract too many people (yet?). But then, I have seen footage from a Shinkyokushin world cup, and the hall was nearly empty as well. Go figure...

TBH I don't remember, it was one of the random videos found on youtube on a late evening. But I remember thinking "Hm, are there any other spectators beside athletes, coaches, friends and family"?



These are the all 4 Shinkyokushinkai World Cups which have been held, see if it helps to refresh your memory.

1st, 1997, Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZiYTW6NHXc

2nd, 2001, Budapest
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmH42xxFBs4

3rd, 2005, Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLPcFq5Gugs

4th, 2009, Moscow
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXsQvP1Yov8

[kakatootoshi]

And one major difference between the KWF World Cup and the Rengokai World Cup is, KWF World Cup was an admission free event.

[Dent]

Osu!

Thanks for posting, KakatoOtoshi!

Alexey Gorokhov in the +90 really cracked that fighter from Japan. He didn't want any more after that Jodan Mawashi.

In the -90's, the rolling kicks were irritating and pointless. Gedan Mawashi for the win!

Osu!

[kakatootoshi]

opening ceremony
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKY_lyB-DMM

[ashiharakaicho]

Yes it is the same as Tokyo Honbu.

That's cool then that they are competing in open events ... just a pity that it is under his name and not that of Ashihara Karate.

OSU-EN2

[Steffen]

More videos to find here http://www.youtube.com/user/noriyukitanaka1/videos