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Tettsui
10-11-2007, 04:33 AM
I was thinking about kicks that are hard to block and what I noticed was a weird timing to them. They seem to start out slow and then explode along the way. It's rarely fully speed all the way.

So what you see/feel is "Uh-oh here it...ouch..."

The other thing is, if you do block the kick, it hurts more because your guard timing is off.

Has anyone tried to adjust their "speed-timing"(I don't know what else to call it) and seen any success?

If you can think of any good fighters who do this on YouTube, please post them up. I'd like to try and imitate them.

Osu!

Bloke
11-20-2007, 11:55 AM
Tettsui - any examples of the kind of kick you mean?

Spirit
11-20-2007, 12:17 PM
Adjusting your dodge timing is a far better technique than blocking at all.

If you need to block meet the kick rather than waiting for it to come to you.
This applies to almost every kick known.

Brad
11-21-2007, 05:59 AM
and if you do block made sure they feel that block. So they will think twice on kicking you there again.

kyofighter
11-21-2007, 06:23 AM
Trying to meet the kick instead of waiting for it can break your arm. I can give you many examples of fights when that happened. The first one that come in my mind is Nicholas Pettas and Badh Hari in K-1., when Nicholas forearm broke.
Avoiding them and moving around can help you more then always trying to block .
A good kicker usually has good conditioning also , so it is a bad idea to try to block very hard , you will hurt more then him.

Nix
11-21-2007, 12:27 PM
That depends. In order to avoid beeng hit by full force, you need to move out of the impact zone. Either you move into the kick, where it has not reached full power yet, or to the side, where the kick has lost all it's power. If you attempt to move into the kick, but don't manage to move far enough into it, chance is the impact will be greater. It's all about timing.

Also, you always use two hands when blocking a chudan/jodan mawashi geri, especially when moving into the kick. Otherwise you risk breaking your own arm AND/OR the block is useless.

One of my mates is an expert at radically increasing the speed in mid-air. When the kick is ca. halfway through, he somehow rotates his hip to increase speed. As a bonus, he also manages to close some distance while executing the kick, so it's hard to know what the safety distance is.

Tettsui
11-21-2007, 10:50 PM
Midori Kenji has this type of kick. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj2cQhxy6sY)

You can see his leg come up but it's not the same speed or timing that the impact occurs. It's the difference between 1,2,3 and 1...23. I'm sure his kick would be difficult to block because of that slight off timing(other than he IS Midori Kenji).

OSU!