View Full Version : Biggest tournaments in Organizations / Styles
Fire!
10-20-2007, 12:12 AM
I would like to know which tournament are considered the biggest in each org / styles. osu
Order in Rank
IKO1 (Kancho Matsui)
IKO1 World Open Tournaments (http://kyokushin4life.com/wiki/index.php?title=IKO1_World_Open_Tournaments) (Every 4 years, ..2007, 2011..)
IKO1 World Weight Category Championships (http://kyokushin4life.com/wiki/index.php?title=IKO1_World_Weight_Category_Champio nships) (Every 4 years, ..2005, 2009..)
IKO1 European Championship (http://kyokushin4life.com/wiki/index.php?title=IKO1_European_Championship) (Every year)
IKO1 All Japan Open Tournaments (http://kyokushin4life.com/wiki/index.php?title=IKO1_All_Japan_Open_Tournaments) (Every year)
IKO1 All Japan Weight Category Championships (http://kyokushin4life.com/wiki/index.php?title=IKO1_All_Japan_Weight_Category_Cha mpionships) (Every year)
Brazil?
Russia?
All Kanto in Japan
WKO (Midori Daihyo)
WKO World Open Tournaments (http://kyokushin4life.com/wiki/index.php?title=WKO_World_Open_Tournaments) (Every 4 years, ..2007, 2011..)
WKO World Cup (http://kyokushin4life.com/wiki/index.php?title=WKO_World_Cup)
WKO European Championship (http://kyokushin4life.com/wiki/index.php?title=WKO_European_Championship) - 2008 bulgaria
WKO All Japan Open Tournaments (http://kyokushin4life.com/wiki/index.php?title=WKO_All_Japan_Open_Tournaments) (Every year)
WKO All Japan Weight Category Championships (http://kyokushin4life.com/wiki/index.php?title=WKO_All_Japan_Weight_Category_Cham pionships) (Every year)
Swiss Open - 2007 (every two years)
Diamond cup antwerpen/belgium - 2007, (every two years)
Croatia Open - (Every year)
IKO3 - Matsushima
IKO4 - Tezuka
Kyokushin Union (as known as Kyokushin Rengokai headed by hasegawa, oishi, shichinohe and others)
Kyokushin Union Cup World Karate Championship (http://kyokushin4life.com/wiki/index.php?title=Kyokushin_Union_Cup_World_Karate_C hampionship) , 2008 (Every ? years?)
Kyokushin-Kan (Royama)
IKO Family
IFK
IFK World Tournament (every 4 years, ..2005,2009..)
European Tournament (every 4 years)
British Open (yearly)
UFKK
European Championship(yearly)
Ashihara Karate
(NIKO)
Sabaki challenge Spirit. Held in Viborg, Denmark annually.
(AKI) Ashihara karate international (Narkers organization)
Sabaki challenge, Held annually in Cape Town , South africa.
Enshin Karate
Daido juku
World Tournament (every 4 years 2001, 2005, 2009...)
European Tournament (every year - Sofia, Bulgaria 2007, Moscow 2008...)
Hokutoki (All Japan) Weight category (every year 2005, 2006, 2007... - Japan)
Hokutoki (all Japan) Open Weight (every year 2005, 2006, 2007... - Japan)
sorry if i have missed something.. osu
StarKodama
10-20-2007, 12:23 AM
For WKO/ Shinkyokushin, my understanding is that the World Tournament is held every 4 years in Tokyo, and the World Cup is held every 4 years in a different location. (Last time it was Osaka, next time it'll be St. Petersburg.) So basically every 2 years there's a big tournament.
Sorry, I can't help with any of the other styles though. ;_;
Martin H
10-20-2007, 03:15 AM
Ashihara
(NIKO)
Sabaki challenge Spirit. Held in Viborg, Denmark annually.
(AKI) Ashihara karate international (Narkers organization)
Sabaki challenge, Held annually in Cape Town , South africa.
Enshin juku
Sabaki Challenge, held in Denver USA
All Japan Sabaki Challenge (held next week btw)
nzproud
10-20-2007, 05:00 AM
What's Enshin Juku? Is it the same as Enshin Karate?
Does anyone know in which organization Yuka Kobayashi(Ashihara Nishiyama Dojo) belongs to? I don't think I have seen in her record that she fought in those sabaki challenges in Denmark..? Or has she?
Fire!
10-20-2007, 08:35 PM
Thanks guys. osu I hope we get more information on other styles and IFK.. osu
jolut
10-20-2007, 08:52 PM
Osu,
Nishiyama Dojo is Ashihara NIKO.
No japanese has been fighting at the SCS in Denmark.
The IFK has its IFK World Tournament and most recently this year we had the IFK European Championships in Russia.
Should be due another WT in 2009 :D
kyokushin4life
10-21-2007, 09:41 PM
Lucy-san. Could you tell us how often those tournaments happen? Every 2 years?
IFK WT every 4 years and the ET every 4 years, British Open (yearly),
kyokushin4life
10-22-2007, 09:14 AM
IFK WT every 4 years and the ET every 4 years, British Open (yearly),
Is ET an European tournament? What countries are strong in those IFK tournaments? Do Japanese participate at all?
Chimofu
10-22-2007, 11:20 AM
Russia fighters are very strong. And last year the fighters from Denmark ( shinkyokushin)
Bloke
10-22-2007, 11:37 AM
ET is the European Tournament. Sometimes there will be Japanese fighters but mostly from other groups.
Britain and Russia would probably be strongest but Canada have impressed me as well.
Jenny
10-22-2007, 03:22 PM
The UFKK is organizing every year the European Championship but on this tournament are fighting also karateka's from Iran, Brazil, Pakistan and Russia.
Osu Jenny
One of the biggest events was the AKR Eent in Russia that had tp fighters from IKO 1, IKO 2, IFK and IFKK Royama group fight. See link : Russian Openweight Championship - Oyama Cup : IKO 1 (http://www.kyokushinresults.freeserve.co.uk/Pages/Russia/Allrussian.htm)
Any other yeat this would be the strongest tournament but is on par with IKO 1 & IKO 2 opewight events in my book. All 3 fighters who reached last at last week in IKO 2 event particpated along with a very strong from IKO 1, IFK & Royama groups.
Osu,
Nishiyama Dojo is Ashihara NIKO.
No japanese has been fighting at the SCS in Denmark. True, Nishiyama Dojo is NIKO, but I've heard that their grading curriculum is quite different from the other Japanese branches.
Also, a Japanese fought at the Sabaki Challenge Spirit in 2005, but he enterered for another nation (Hungary, I think).
The Sabaki Challenge Spirit is the official NIKO world championships. Other than that, I believe the German Open is also considered one of the more prestigious tournaments, although it is open to all knock-down styles. Ashihara fighters also participate in Kyokushin cross-style tournaments, like the Diamond Cup.
Could the top post be edited to contain new information as people post?
Osu!
kyokushin4life
10-22-2007, 09:37 PM
Could the top post be edited to contain new information as people post?
Osu!
Done! Please let me know if anything is wrong and needs to be updated.
Osu-EN1
nangoushuujin
11-21-2007, 11:56 AM
What's Enshin Juku? Is it the same as Enshin Karate?
Does anyone know in which organization Yuka Kobayashi(Ashihara Nishiyama Dojo) belongs to? I don't think I have seen in her record that she fought in those sabaki challenges in Denmark..? Or has she?
I thought she was an IKO1 fighter?
Wasnt she a serious Japanese contender at one of the recent Womens World tournament?
Osu
kakatootoshi
11-21-2007, 04:02 PM
Dear nangoushuujin,
Kobayashi has always been Ashihara from the beginning.
Are you referring to the women's world tournament in Tokyo (held alongside with men's world tournament)? She was there but not as a fighter (she could not pass the qualifying tournaments).
OSU!
ibuki
11-26-2007, 12:33 PM
I would like to know which tournament are considered the biggest in each org / styles. osu
Daido juku
sorry if i have missed something.. osu
OSU Fire!
Daido juku
World Tournament (every 4 years 2001, 2005, 2009...)
European Tournament (every year - Sofia, Bulgaria 2007, Moscow 2008...)
Hokutoki (All Japan) Weight category (every year 2005, 2006, 2007... - Japan)
Hokutoki (all Japan) Open Weight (every year 2005, 2006, 2007... - Japan)
OSU!
goldberg2310
11-26-2007, 12:42 PM
osu,
wko
european championships - 2008 bulgaria
swiss open - 2007 every two years
diamond cup antwerpen/belgium - 2007, every two years
croatia open - every year
at this international opens are about 100 competitors from europe, sometimes japan and overseas.
OSU-EN2
nangoushuujin
12-02-2007, 01:12 PM
I wonder how the European Championships compare with an All Japan or the All Kanto tournament.
An All Kanto tournament would have at least 64 fighters proven through regional feeder tournaments. These would have an Open Draw of about aprox32 fighters.
The All Japan is the accumulation of the All Kanto, All Tohoku, All Kansai, All Chugoku, All Shikoku, All kyushu and some of the regional champions.
I'm guessing an European Championship would be similar with the various national titles providing the feeder tournaments.
Has anyone mentioned the All American Tournament? Similar process I reckon!
kakatootoshi
12-02-2007, 03:11 PM
All Kanto indeed is arguably the most important tournament in Japan besides All-Japan and All-Japan Weight.
There is a saying which goes like "To conqueur the world one must first conquer All-Japan. To conquer All-Japan one must first conquer All-Kanto. Kazumi Hajime Kancho and Suzuki Kunihiro Shihan have bothed won the All-Kanto in their career.
OSU!
koji112091
12-02-2007, 04:23 PM
I have a slightly stupid question but I don't know the answer so it does not matter.
If you belong to one organization, can you fight in another's tournament? I'm sure it varies more than this. OSU!
kyokushin4life
02-11-2008, 02:56 AM
Keep them coming everyone! Osu!
If you belong to one organization, can you fight in another's tournament? I'm sure it varies more than this. I think it depends on the particular question, but there are loads of open tournaments in Europe. In Denmark for instance, Ashihara and Kyokushinkai regularilly fight at the same tournaments. Sometimes under Ashihara rules, sometimes under Kyokushin and sometimes we even compromise. But the Sabaki Challenge Spirit which is also held in Denmark, is the official Ashihara World Cup, and is therefore restricted to NIKO members only.
olyckan
03-11-2008, 08:37 AM
If a tournament is named "open" it is generally open to other organisations, Although it might not be open for other styles. In sweden we had a tournament called F.I.S.T a few years back. It put up both ashihara and kyukoshin fighters from several european countries in the same tournament.. To bad it hasnt been going for the last 2-3 years..
Martin H
03-11-2008, 10:38 AM
I have a slightly stupid question but I don't know the answer so it does not matter.
If you belong to one organization, can you fight in another's tournament? I'm sure it varies more than this. OSU!
It varies.
Some organization cooperate quite closely and are regularly represented at each others competitions. Seido kaikan cooperate with IKO1 a lot. shin-kyokushin cooperates a lot with ashihara (NIKO) and Byakuren kaikan. To the point where there often are "guest" fighters in world championships that technically is internal for the organization only.
Between different factions of kyokyushin, it is a bit more delicate. but as a rule -due to the complicated legal situation in Japan, thee large groups dont fight in each others events very often. even if it is a open event where they are welcome. Entering the tournament of another group could be seen as "accepting" them -which the leadership in Japan would not look very kindly on. But it seems like the relations are tawing up reasonably quickly compared to the deadlock of a few years ago.
Bloke
03-11-2008, 11:00 AM
I suspect that there is far more co-operation in Europe.