View Full Version : Is any of this advice legit? It seems outdated and overkill!
FutureProdigy
10-11-2008, 05:36 PM
I was reading up on kyokushin specific training and found this site:
Welcome to Conditioning for Kyokushin Karate by Steve Denoo (http://www.geocities.com/sadenoo2/conditioning.html)
But the advice given seems rather odd.
This part has some interesting advice too, although slightly related to my other thread of iron body training:
http://www.geocities.com/sadenoo2/specialtraining.html
osu.
Not a bad site. Quite abit info there.
Aunty Ichigeki
10-13-2008, 09:05 AM
Goodness. He's giving a lot of info. I don't have time to analyse it but I'd be wary of any 'one size fits all' advice. What's good for one body type or stage of training is most certainly not good for another. Rather than adopt someone elses program, if you can't afford a professional (a person qualified to prescribe exercise.. vs Jo Karate Instructor) to create a program, it's better to study the science behind the program so you can create your own. Basically any time someone says "I do X therefore you all should to" look hard at their body, age, lifestyle etc & decide if they're your clone. If not... :rolleyes:
Osu!
Got to agree with Aunty. There's a lot of stuff there that has been in and out of fashion for years, but I think he's listing things to give examples not so you should do it as written. We shouldn't all do the same though. I like Geoff Thompsons 'puncture' analogy. To find out where the leaks are it needs pressure putting in and then you can see the holes and repair them. Push yourself in training, find out where you are falling short then add in the extra work to bring that area of your conditioning up to the mark.
There are certain training principles we can all follow for maximum benefit in the time available, but you really need to seek advice on good form. (That's not from some spotty kid at the local globo gym whose ink hasn't dried on his certificate - find a coach who has trained some good lifters)
I had to smile at the 'seek advice from your doctor' bit. Since mine smokes, drinks and carries a few stone of padding I doubt his advice on exercise would be what I'd take.
Gary
The only bit I thought worthy of note was the idea of slow conditioning, I think (as someone currently sat covered in bruises) that all too often in Kyokushin training we think that bashing the hell out of each other some how conditions us this is not only wrong, it's counter productive - slowly and frequently building up resistance and strength in the key areas is the way to go.
SteveD
09-25-2010, 04:25 PM
Hi,
I was reading your question from some time ago. What I put on that site is what I did in my own personal training 40+ years ago now.
Slow conditioning.
The idea is that if you practice slow, but your kicks and punches are fast, it tricks the brain into making your movements that much faster. I did lots of speed drills.
I am a believer that Speed is 80 % of karate.