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powerof0ne
12-02-2009, 12:34 AM
One of our very own on here has done a 100 man kumite but is too humble to ever talk about it so I thought I'd say a big Osu to Senshido.

http://www.senshidokarate.com/100mankumite.htm

Definitely not an easy task no matter how good of shape your'e in.
Osu!

FredInChina
12-02-2009, 12:39 AM
Osu Senshido! :cool:

knuckleheader
12-02-2009, 12:53 AM
Well, a belated Osu-EN1, to Senshido.

Maybe we can hear some reflections, as some time has passed.

OSU-EN2

sandman
12-02-2009, 01:11 AM
Big Osu! That's an incredible achievement

Godai
12-02-2009, 01:23 AM
Osu-EN1

vapor
12-02-2009, 02:56 AM
OSU!

vapor

Mas
12-02-2009, 03:20 AM
A great Osu-EN1 Senshido. A task not so easy but worth the effort, the determination and the honour.

Osu.

Bardock
12-02-2009, 07:09 AM
Osu!
Great going!

Olrac
12-02-2009, 07:16 AM
Osu!!!

Minas
12-02-2009, 09:04 AM
Osu! great achievment!

senshido
12-02-2009, 01:15 PM
Osu, cheers guys, it was a long time ago, thanks Powerof0ne for embarrasing me! :o ;)

powerof0ne
12-02-2009, 01:22 PM
Osu, cheers guys, it was a long time ago, thanks Powerof0ne for embarrasing me! :o ;)

Doesn't matter how long ago it was I think it's one of those things that not many on here have experience with that would like any knowledge you gained from the experience and definitely something to applaud you for, Osu!

sandman
12-02-2009, 01:37 PM
Osu, cheers guys, it was a long time ago, thanks Powerof0ne for embarrasing me! :o ;)

Senshido, at the risk of overstepping my bounds, would you mind telling us a little bit about the experience and maybe the preparation leading up to it?

FredInChina
12-02-2009, 01:47 PM
Senshido, at the risk of overstepping my bounds, would you mind telling us a little bit about the experience and maybe the preparation leading up to it?
I'll take that risk too & humbly second the request... :):)
Osu!

senshido
12-02-2009, 01:48 PM
Osu,

the outstanding memory I have from that time was the amount of training I put in for it, I was in the gym 5 days a week working mainly on chest and arms, and I was fighting at every karate class which was at that time about 25 hours a week in the dojo.
I was using a training partner in the gym who was hitting me in between reps for conditioning (I'd seen it done on an old Kyokushin video and thought it might help :D) which I kinda enjoyed, I was always seen as a bit perverse as I enjoyed being hit!
My chest went from 48" to 50" due to the extra gym work which gave me good "padding" for the pounding I took.
The only time I went down was on my last fight, when i was sort of dragged over (thanks Paul - you know who you are ;))
if any more memories come back i will post them as I think of them

Osu

sandman
12-02-2009, 01:51 PM
Osu!!

Thanks Senshido. I can only try to imagine what that must have been like. I'd certainly be interested if you think of more details to share.

senshido
12-02-2009, 01:53 PM
Osu!!

Thanks Senshido. I can only try to imagine what that must have been like. I'd certainly be interested if you think of more details to share.

would you, by any chance be building up to do one too? ;)

meguro
12-02-2009, 01:55 PM
Osu-EN1

FredInChina
12-02-2009, 01:59 PM
Thanks shenshido, I'll be looking forward to more recounts of your endeavor as you recall them.
Osu!

would you, by any chance be building up to do one too? ;)

Sandman, you've been keeping your cards close to your chest I can see! :)
that beats the splits routine eh? :D
Osu!

sandman
12-02-2009, 02:13 PM
would you, by any chance be building up to do one too? ;)

Osu-EN1

Thanks shenshido, I'll be looking forward to more recounts of your endeavor as you recall them.
Osu!



Sandman, you've been keeping your cards close to your chest I can see!
that beats the splits routine eh?
Osu!

Whoa Nelly!!!

Right now I'm just getting ready for my 1st kyu test - a 100 man kumite is not on my radar at all at this point. I am just curious to hear about the experience, that's all.

:)

Hangtime
12-02-2009, 02:14 PM
Awesome accomplishment Senshido! I envy and applaud you.

Thanks Senshido. I can only try to imagine what that must have been like. I'd certainly be interested if you think of more details to share.

Ditto!

would you, by any chance be building up to do one too? ;)

Maybe not Sandman, and likely not me, but I think it is a goal that would certainly worth building toward...of course, I need to "focus" on winning one before trying to fight 100 :)

OSU!!

senshido
12-02-2009, 02:15 PM
Whoa Nelly!!!

Right now I'm just getting ready for my 1st kyu test - a 100 man kumite is not on my radar at all at this point. I am just curious to hear about the experience, that's all.

:)

:D:D Just trying to deflect the attention to give my old brain time to get into gear

sandman
12-02-2009, 02:16 PM
Maybe not Sandman, and likely not me, but I think it is a goal that would certainly worth building toward...of course, I need to "focus" on winning one before trying to fight 100 :)



My thoughts exactly!

GJEC
12-02-2009, 02:16 PM
Respect!

AVE IT! of the first order.

Gary

senshido
12-02-2009, 02:17 PM
Respect!

AVE IT! of the first order.

Gary

Cheers Gary, it was done during my time with BC

Osu

GJEC
12-02-2009, 02:20 PM
Interesting! I saw him do fifty and it didn't look like he enjoyed it. (To be fair, I didn't enjoy 30 :o)

You've not read Machiavelli then:

"Never outshine the Master" ;)

Gary

senshido
12-02-2009, 02:32 PM
Interesting! I saw him do fifty and it didn't look like he enjoyed it. (To be fair, I didn't enjoy 30 :o)

You've not read Machiavelli then:

"Never outshine the Master" ;)

Gary

To be honest I didnt know he did the 50, I'd imagine there were a lot of guys trying to give him a very hard time? ;)
to my knowledge there were 5 of us in his organization that did it, Rick McElroy, John Wilson, Myself, Ian Chalinder & Tim Goulet, maybe more since I left
BC's grading fights were (probably still are) very tough then and it was 30 for 1st dan, 40 for 2nd dan, 50 for 3rd dan so I dont think many guys fancied doing the 100, and in fairness I looked like I had been in a car crash the following day!

tmd
12-02-2009, 10:37 PM
OSU Senshido a great achevement, plenty of memories I bet.

As it was while you were with BC did you have to fight him at all? Did you fight 100 fresh fighters or did you have like 20-30 that rotated?

kyokushinMaster
12-03-2009, 12:39 AM
WOW!!! 100 PEOPLE! BLACKBELTS TOO! Osu-EN1.

Mas
12-03-2009, 03:43 AM
Osu senshido and thank you for the details, hope to see the video clip any time soon.

What sort of training is needed to compete the 100 men kumite?

I would like to challenge myself to a 50 men kumite but have no idea of the requirements (apart from training), this including food, health-wise and as an individual in terms of time, emotional & physical appearence.

Advises please.

Osu

senshido
12-03-2009, 10:31 AM
OSU Senshido a great achevement, plenty of memories I bet.

As it was while you were with BC did you have to fight him at all? Did you fight 100 fresh fighters or did you have like 20-30 that rotated?

I think there were about 40 fighters, I fought all of them at least twice and the "top fighters" a few times each, it was set up so that every fight was for 1 minute, if someone went down they got up and carried on, the fight wasnt stopped for a knockdown. so I knew it was a hundred minutes of fighting. Also I had plenty of notice so I arranged sponsor forms etc and raised £1100 for a cancer charity (MacMillan Nurses). (It got quite a lot of press coverage at the time)

I didnt fight BC at that event, in fact he wasnt there, it was done through the Welsh Branch and he was in Denmark then, I did however fight him several times during grading fights previous to this, the most memorable was on my 39th fight of my 40 for 2nd dan when he caught me with a sweet ushiro geri in the stomach, I very nearly puked over him! :D

Osu

senshido
12-03-2009, 10:33 AM
Osu senshido and thank you for the details, hope to see the video clip any time soon

osu, thanks, although this has just been posted I actually did the fights in 1998, there was video taken of the event which i will try to locate (I have moved around a lot since then)

GJEC
12-03-2009, 11:08 AM
The $64,000 question ...

What did you gain from the experience?

Gary

senshido
12-03-2009, 11:13 AM
The $64,000 question ...

What did you gain from the experience?

Gary

Bruises! :D

seriously though i gained a feeling of "if I can get through that i can get through anything" I think it kind of gives you extra depth to your mental toughness.
an added bonus was that every tournament I entered for the next year or so I won, so I guess another lesson was i should have trained harder all along! ;)

Osu

kanku
12-03-2009, 12:06 PM
A great acheivement senshido!!Osu-EN1

And captain of the Scottish drinking team!!!

Being able to do this and get one of your drinking team to spend £264 at the bar at k2......i am truely in awe!!!!:D

friedmandu
12-03-2009, 12:26 PM
Osu! Your story is inspiring and makes my approaching belt test look like a walk in the park by comparison. Time to hit the gym even harder.

senshido
12-03-2009, 12:46 PM
A great acheivement senshido!!Osu-EN1

And captain of the Scottish drinking team!!!

Being able to do this and get one of your drinking team to spend £264 at the bar at k2......i am truely in awe!!!!:D

£264 man is coming to wales too!

marekmr
12-03-2009, 01:57 PM
Big Osu Senshido!

Godai
12-03-2009, 02:32 PM
One of my life's regrets. Not doing something like that. I would have loved to at least do a 30 man at some point. Oh well.
But more than the fighting aspect and the abuse the body would take from repeated blows and leg kicks, my main concern would have been wind. That is an awfully long time to fight and to have the wind to be able to make it through, IMO, is the main thing. I think I could deal with the fighting parts easier than still being able to breath toward the end, what is it an hour for a 100 man? A 30 man may be more doable:)

My biggest respect for something like this is the spirit. I have to say that during much of my training outside a dojo. Whether it was weight training, other karate styles or martial arts, BJJ, MMA, work or a host of other difficult things in life. The spirit gained from my Kyokushin training has shined through. At MMA I was known for my hard work ethic...all a product of my Kyokushin training.

My hat's off again to you sir.
On a related note. this kind of makes me want to read "Waking Dragons" again :)

Osu-EN1

Dent
12-05-2009, 04:13 PM
Osu!

Now that's fantastic, Senshido! A great personal achievement!

Osu!

Nix
12-05-2009, 04:44 PM
Osu! Well done Senshido! That is truly an awesome feat.

Also, thank you powerofOne, for pointing it out to us. :D

senshido
12-05-2009, 05:50 PM
Thanks for all the comments

Osu

netsecure
12-22-2009, 07:16 PM
whos senshido?

sandman
12-22-2009, 07:49 PM
whos senshido?

One of our K4L members :)

Godai
12-23-2009, 01:57 AM
whos senshido?

The poster right above your post! :confused: :D

Mas
12-24-2009, 09:05 AM
whos senshido?

:eek:

The poster right above your post!


:D :D ;)

powerof0ne
12-02-2010, 11:40 PM
Since he's now a member I'd like to bring to everyone's attention another humble member here who has done the 100 man kumite *drum roll* Wullie.

Wullie is also a very experienced kickboxer, too.
http://www.senshidokarate.com/100mankumite.htm

Just like his brother, Senshido, Wullie is too humble to ever tell any of you about this but I thought it appropriate so we could all bother him with any questions about it!
LOL
Osu-EN1

powerof0ne
12-03-2010, 12:49 AM
Normally I wouldn't do this but I want to embarrass Wullie :D "bump".
Osu!

wullie
12-03-2010, 12:51 AM
Normally I wouldn't do this but I want to embarrass Wullie :D "bump".
Osu!

:o:o:o

then po1, your mission is complete.

Evergrey
12-03-2010, 01:05 AM
There have been a couple of people in my area who have done a 100 man kumite. Not in Japan though... when Mas Oyama was over here, he had at least one of them done, I think. And then his student had HIS student do one, at least. So Don Buck and Gary White both have, far as I know. I imagine there are a number of people who have outside of the hombu.

powerof0ne
12-03-2010, 01:09 AM
There have been a couple of people in my area who have done a 100 man kumite. Not in Japan though... when Mas Oyama was over here, he had at least one of them done, I think. And then his student had HIS student do one, at least. So Don Buck and Gary White both have, far as I know. I imagine there are a number of people who have outside of the hombu.
I find this interesting and am not doubting what you're being told but generally speaking every 100 man kumite done with Sosai involved has been recorded & acknowledged by IKO1. However, I wasn't there so no way for me to ever know.

Senshido & Wullie are not affiliated with IKO1 and so it's recorded on the senshidokarate website and there are other kyokushin orgs and off shoots that have had members do 100 man kumites as well. With all of that being said, I tip my hat to anybody that has completed a 100 man kumite!
Osu!

meguro
12-03-2010, 01:10 AM
Congratulation wullie! That is quite a feat.

Evergrey
12-03-2010, 01:12 AM
I'll have to ask for more details. :} Sosai used to come out there when Don Buck was head of the AKKO... We used to have a lot of dojos around that would come together for stuff.

powerof0ne
12-03-2010, 01:14 AM
I'll have to ask for more details. :} Sosai used to come out there when Don Buck was head of the AKKO... We used to have a lot of dojos around that would come together for stuff.
I think back in those days Don Buck was IKO under Sosai...back when Sosai would come here to see Don anyway or when Don would go to Sosai in Japan, etc.. That's just my understanding of that history, anyway. No way am I claiming to be an expert on the history of the AKKO and Don Buck.
Osu!

jcarmello
12-03-2010, 02:18 AM
Wullie, wow!! Awesome accomplishment!! Huge respect!!! Rep'd!!

gotapex
12-03-2010, 02:40 AM
Amazing feat!



Side question: Do different organizations have different official fight lengths (ie. 2 minute, 1.5 minute, 1 minute), or is it up to the fighter?

senshido
12-03-2010, 10:32 AM
Amazing feat!



Side question: Do different organizations have different official fight lengths (ie. 2 minute, 1.5 minute, 1 minute), or is it up to the fighter?

yes... ours are 1 minute each, but are not shortened if your opponent goes down... they get up and carry on (if they can) if they cant carry on, either me or the next highest grade would take their place until that minute is up.
So you fight for 100 minutes with a quick sip of water after every 10.


Also we arranged Wullies so that he could get sponsorship for a local MS Charity, (our Mother has MS)

GJEC
12-03-2010, 10:37 AM
Also we arranged Wullies so that he could get sponsorship for a local MS Charity, (our Mother has MS)


Like it. Personal challenge and helping others combined. Well done Wullie.

Gary

genosuke
12-03-2010, 10:53 AM
OSU sensei wullie

Dent
12-03-2010, 11:29 AM
Osu!

Well done to all four of those men on the Senshi Do list! That's a very tough challenge to attempt, and even tougher to complete!

Osu!

gotapex
12-03-2010, 11:37 AM
yes... ours are 1 minute each, but are not shortened if your opponent goes down... they get up and carry on (if they can) if they cant carry on, either me or the next highest grade would take their place until that minute is up.
So you fight for 100 minutes with a quick sip of water after every 10.


Also we arranged Wullies so that he could get sponsorship for a local MS Charity, (our Mother has MS)

Sounds positively epic!

Nix
12-03-2010, 11:38 AM
Wow, well done Wullie! Congratulations!

Dobbersky
12-03-2010, 11:43 AM
OSU-EN2

Well Done and Congrats to both of you!!!

It gives the next generation of Knockdown Karateka someone to look up to.

Does anyone know who was the youngest, and who was the oldest person to complete a 100 man Kumite?

Osu-EN1

wullie
12-03-2010, 11:44 AM
Thanks folks OSU!

FredInChina
12-03-2010, 12:46 PM
Well done Wullie, remarkable! :)
Kudos to Senshido & the two others too

Osu!

(...) That's a very tough challenge to attempt, and even tougher to complete!
Hummmm --- Dent? ;)

Osu!

sandman
12-03-2010, 01:50 PM
Also we arranged Wullies so that he could get sponsorship for a local MS Charity,

The 100 man kumite is already extremely impressive - but that little fact makes it all the more so! Well done Wullie :)

Dent
12-03-2010, 01:56 PM
Osu!

Hummmm --- Dent? ;)

Yes, Fred? :)

Osu!

kanku
12-03-2010, 02:05 PM
Osu!



Yes, Fred? :)

Osu!

How about a Scottish visit for yours Dent with Powerof1......we could have our very own k4l punch up and binge!?:)

senshido
12-03-2010, 03:26 PM
How about a Scottish visit for yours Dent with Powerof1......we could have our very own k4l punch up and binge!?:)

AN EXCELLENT PLAN!!

I'm sure we could get a lot of "helpers" from the K4L Community ;)

GJEC
12-03-2010, 04:09 PM
I'll hold his jacket ...

Gary

senshido
12-03-2010, 04:12 PM
I'll hold his jacket ...

Gary

I'd rather he wore it :)

FredInChina
12-03-2010, 04:24 PM
I'll hold his jacket ...

Gary
LOL - I'll carry the luggage, as always... ;):D
osu!

Dent
12-03-2010, 04:44 PM
Osu!

You lot may be having a laugh, but it's very tempting. I've thought about it (Of course. Who hasn't?), but never very seriously. It would be a one heck of an achievement.........

One hundred rounds.

Hmmm.....

Osu!

MilkManX
12-03-2010, 04:47 PM
Osu-EN1

That is awesome Wullie.

Don't worry you can get Po1 back when he does his 50 man this spring...

:D

Osu-EN1

SulTan2011
12-03-2010, 04:50 PM
Osu-EN1

Dent
12-03-2010, 04:52 PM
Osu!

Osu-EN1

Welcome to the Forum, SulTan2011. Please stop by the Introductions section and tell us about yourself.

Osu!

Hangtime
12-03-2010, 05:11 PM
Osu!

You lot may be having a laugh, but it's very tempting. I've thought about it (Of course. Who hasn't?), but never very seriously. It would be a one heck of an achievement.........

One hundred rounds.

Hmmm.....

Osu!

Easier to say from the sidelines, but go for it Dent! That would be an awesome accomplishment!

Osu-EN1

FredInChina
12-03-2010, 05:16 PM
You lot may be having a laugh, but it's very tempting (...)
Great! I can't hear nobody laughing Sensei! :)
Osu!

Dent
12-03-2010, 05:49 PM
Osu!

Easier to say from the sidelines, but go for it Dent! That would be an awesome accomplishment!

Osu-EN1

Great! I can't hear nobody laughing Sensei! :)
Osu!

Easy, everyone. :) The seed has been planted, but this is a very serious undertaking. I won't even consider it without taking time to think about the commitment. Building up to this challenge is probably the best part of a year's work.

Oh, and it must just be those voices in my head again. ;)

Osu!

GJEC
12-03-2010, 05:55 PM
Yeah I'd forget it Dent ...

You're a bit old for that kind of caper now, aren't you?

Gary

(To all other forum members - did you like how I did that? Bit of reverse psychology there ...)

sandman
12-03-2010, 06:01 PM
Very sneaky Gary - I like it :D

GJEC
12-03-2010, 06:03 PM
LOL

Until I was about 50 if someone told me I was too old for something it was all I needed.

Now I just agree with them ...

Gary

Dent
12-03-2010, 06:14 PM
Osu!

Yeah I'd forget it Dent ...

You're a bit old for that kind of caper now, aren't you?

Gary

(To all other forum members - did you like how I did that? Bit of reverse psychology there ...)

Gary's right. :o :(

I'd be silly not to listen to the voice of reason.

Osu!

FredInChina
12-03-2010, 06:15 PM
Until I was about 50 if someone told me I was too old for something it was all I needed.

Now I just agree with them ...

Hummmm, I don't know... Maybe I should look forward to being 50! :D

Osu!

jcarmello
12-03-2010, 07:03 PM
Personally speaking, I believe there is a greater task at hand for Sensei Dent then performing a 100 man kumite at this stage of his life and Martial Arts career. And I would "bank" on that "greater task" as being much more profound and rewarding for him and many, many other folks in the future!! Just my humble and not so qualified opinion!!

However, if he should decide to move forward on this endeavor, I will certainly do all I can to help him prepare.....additionally, that goes for the greater plan, of which, I eluded to above!:D

powerof0ne
12-03-2010, 07:23 PM
Personally speaking, I believe there is a greater task at hand for Sensei Dent then performing a 100 man kumite at this stage of his life and Martial Arts career. And I would "bank" on that "greater task" as being much more profound and rewarding for him and many, many other folks in the future!! Just my humble and not so qualified opinion!!

However, if he should decide to move forward on this endeavor, I will certainly do all I can to help him prepare.....additionally, that goes for the greater plan, of which, I eluded to above!:D
You sound like a priest to me right now :D
Osu!

jcarmello
12-03-2010, 07:26 PM
You sound like a priest to me right now :D
Osu!

Hey, hey!!!!!!! Take it easy with the name calling P01!! I have never been accused of that before, you never know what someone might think!!!

powerof0ne
12-03-2010, 07:40 PM
Hey, hey!!!!!!! Take it easy with the name calling P01!! I have never been accused of that before, you never know what someone might think!!!
Or at least a saint from "Boondock Saints" ;) LOL!
Osu!

MilkManX
12-03-2010, 09:03 PM
Or at least a saint from "Boondock Saints" ;) LOL!
Osu!

That's more like it! :D

Osu-EN1

knuckleheader
12-04-2010, 03:45 AM
I think one can find something better than an ego trip. To me, that's all the 100 man kumite is.

The reason is this. You are fighting many guys who probably only hope you don't hurt them. And the other guys(who are able) are not trying to knock your head off. It's more of a stamina thing than actually hurting your opponents.
Please correct me if there is something about it, misunderstood.

Now, if it were 100 men who could actually hurt you and were trying to hurt you.

Go ahead, flame me if you want. Mr. Dent would be better off competing in the UFC. Win or lose, there is some money with the bruises.

Evergrey
12-04-2010, 04:28 AM
UFC sure has a lot of hugging and cuddling! ;}

powerof0ne
12-04-2010, 04:48 AM
I like UFC, knockdown karate, k-1, muay thai, BJJ, submission wrestling, Kudo, and much more. So I don't understand the negativity towards the UFC and MMA? Lots of us on here have trained in MMA, some of us have fought in MMA and coached people for MMA fights and are big fans of it. Fighting is fighting..knowing only one piece of combat is a serious disadvantage to yourself but you also need to have roots in something before progressing on to other stuff if you want to become a good fighter.

The 100 man kumite isn't an ego trip but a test for somebody. If it was all about stamina I'm sure I could find many people in great cardio shape with minimum training and they could do it, right? Wrong, they wouldn't be able to deal with it, but that's just my opinion. I am the one that called attention on Senshido and Wullie because I knew they would never say "look, I did a 100 man kumite".

Also, something that some of you may not know, Wullie isn't a black belt in kyokushin under his own brother and has done a 100 man kumite. To me that says a lot about Senshido wanting somebody to not just be a good fighter but to also be able to do everything else. I know many other instructors that would give students a black belt for doing a 100 man kumite. Sure, to be human means having an ego but I wouldn't call these two egotistical by any means.

This isn't an anti bullshido forum because there are some knowledgeable & experienced people on bullshido and sure, there are some people that don't know much but we have that here, too. That's because every martial artist has to be a beginner at some point and we have beginner students on here :D This isn't a yudansha only forum.

Oh well, hope I have addressed some of these issues and that we can continue on without getting sidetracked which I am often guilty of contributing to, myself.

I still say a big loud Osu-EN1 to anybody that has done a 100 man kumite.
Osu-EN1

sandman
12-04-2010, 04:58 AM
I still say a big loud Osu-EN1 to anybody that has done a 100 man kumite.
Osu-EN1

Me too :)

wullie
12-04-2010, 06:52 AM
I think one can find something better than an ego trip. To me, that's all the 100 man kumite is.

The reason is this. You are fighting many guys who probably only hope you don't hurt them. And the other guys(who are able) are not trying to knock your head off. It's more of a stamina thing than actually hurting your opponents.
Please correct me if there is something about it, misunderstood.

Now, if it were 100 men who could actually hurt you and were trying to hurt you.

Go ahead, flame me if you want. Mr. Dent would be better off competing in the UFC. Win or lose, there is some money with the bruises.

i did my fights to raise money for the local Multiple Sclerosis centre as my Mum attended, and at the time they were dangerously short of funds, i know i could probably raised more by fighting my way through the UFC ranks but my ground game is a bit basic, therefore it wasn't an option :D

as for the hurting and not hurting, personally i was a stumbling bruise for a few weeks after, burst ribs, both big toes fractured, a few fractured metacarpals (both hands) and also blood in my urine (thank you senshido!!!!:D), my 'helpers' weren't as bad because they weren't on the mat taking an asskicking that lasted for an hour and forty one minutes.
Osu-EN1

GJEC
12-04-2010, 06:52 AM
I did 30 (1978)

That was tough - so I tip my hat to those who've done 100.

To me this is the same as winning a (high level) tournament or passing a (high level) promotion test. Only those who've done it are entitled to say how 'easy' it was, anyone else is just guessing.

Gary

Minas
12-04-2010, 09:03 AM
Just a question about the 100men kumite, how long are the rounds usually? Mostly I hear about 100 times 1 minute so that's 100 minutes in total. My sensei did a 50 man kumite with 2 minute rounds, so also 100 minutes. Then isn't the 50 men kumite and the 100 men kumite kinda sort of the same? Only that with the 100 men kumite you change partners more frequently? Just a question I had, not meant disrespectful.

I've got huge respect for people completing such a 100 or 50 men kumite, must take a lot of preparation and a great spirit to be able to complete such a challenge. And I like it that wullie raised money with it to help the MS centre :), big respect.

Osu!

wullie
12-04-2010, 10:41 AM
AN EXCELLENT PLAN!!

I'm sure we could get a lot of "helpers" from the K4L Community ;)

Be great if Dent could make it over with powerofOne! Same goes for the rest of you K4L folk, some good old Scottish hospitality waiting here.
OSU!

kanku
12-04-2010, 11:17 AM
Osu!





Easy, everyone. :) The seed has been planted, but this is a very serious undertaking. I won't even consider it without taking time to think about the commitment. Building up to this challenge is probably the best part of a year's work.

Oh, and it must just be those voices in my head again. ;)

Osu!

Your call of course Dent but if you were to consider it what better place than being surrounded by lots of you k4l friends and as Wullie rightly said,"the good old Scottish hospitality!"

It would need a sandstorm to keep me away!!:cool:

Nix
12-04-2010, 11:48 AM
Just a question about the 100men kumite, how long are the rounds usually? [...] Just a question I had, not meant disrespectful.

There are several threads on the topic. Try this one:
http://kyokushin4life.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8040

There was one discussing the different rules in more detail. Give me a heads up, if you find it.

sandman
12-04-2010, 12:58 PM
Then isn't the 50 men kumite and the 100 men kumite kinda sort of the same? Only that with the 100 men kumite you change partners more frequently?


Seems to me either one would be extremely difficult. I guess the difference would be with the 100 x 1 minutes version your opponents always stay fresher vs 50 x 2 minute rounds. But I'm guessing by minute number 90 it probably doesn't much matter anyway! :D

powerof0ne
12-04-2010, 03:44 PM
Seems to me either one would be extremely difficult. I guess the difference would be with the 100 x 1 minutes version your opponents always stay fresher vs 50 x 2 minute rounds. But I'm guessing by minute number 90 it probably doesn't much matter anyway! :D
Depends, in some, if you get enough points to win the match it goes onto the next person. The way Senshido and Wullie did it, if you down the person and they're not too hurt to continue they still fight until the minute is up. More or less, you will be fighting the entire 100 minutes unless you actually knock somebody out cold.

I don't know if that would be the smartest thing to do, neither :D Knocking out somebody cold and you have 90+ matches to fight after that person who would be gunning for you LOL. I know I'm not the only one here who has seen a dojo mate get hurt in kumite and you think to yourself "I can't wait until my turn is next" to seek revenge :cool:.
Osu!

senshido
12-04-2010, 04:38 PM
I think one can find something better than an ego trip. To me, that's all the 100 man kumite is.

The reason is this. You are fighting many guys who probably only hope you don't hurt them. And the other guys(who are able) are not trying to knock your head off. It's more of a stamina thing than actually hurting your opponents.
Please correct me if there is something about it, misunderstood.

Now, if it were 100 men who could actually hurt you and were trying to hurt you.

Go ahead, flame me if you want. Mr. Dent would be better off competing in the UFC. Win or lose, there is some money with the bruises.

I wouldn't flame anyone for having an opinion of their own... all I can say is I did mine for me.
we dont use fighters that want to just get through hoping not to get hurt, if we only have 20 good fighters, they would all fight 5 times, if the opponents werent up to the task they wont be in there. Osu-EN1

jcbel
12-04-2010, 06:48 PM
Wow I'm late to this party... Senshido and Wullie, all the respect in the world to both of you for the achievement AND raising money for charity at the same time! (Thanks to PO1 for bringing it up! :))

Dent can't just complete any ordinary 100-man... his opponents need to be armed or something! :D:p

JCarmello - I wonder what "greater endeavour" you're hinting at! I am certainly curious now... :)

GJEC
12-04-2010, 06:52 PM
100 heavily armed bears or something?

Gary

Dent
12-04-2010, 06:55 PM
Osu!

100 heavily armed bears or something?

This one is a bit tough for me, and he has his own whisky flask!

http://huntingteddy.spotsb.com/DSCF1099.jpg

Osu!

sandman
12-04-2010, 06:58 PM
Osu!



This one is a bit tough for me, and he has his own whisky flask!

http://huntingteddy.spotsb.com/DSCF1099.jpg

Osu!

Are you suggesting Seienchin unleash her army of fuzzy knockdown bears against you? I fear for you Dent! :eek:

jcarmello
12-04-2010, 07:05 PM
Senshido and Wullie are two brothers that have the jolliest of personalities from what I can see!! However, I certainly wouldnt want the both of them on my tail!!:eek:

Awesome task on behalf of the both of you, and all others who have done multi man kumite!!

Osu!!

GJEC
12-04-2010, 07:13 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itWvjFGBjss&feature=related

Rumour has it Dents entering one of these (from 4:47)

:)

sandman
12-04-2010, 07:16 PM
Are you going to loan him your seax Gary? :D

Dent
12-04-2010, 07:29 PM
Osu!

Are you suggesting Seienchin unleash her army of fuzzy knockdown bears against you? I fear for you Dent! :eek:

No, Sandman, never! These are those rebel bears you may have seen before.

http://murphey.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/ewok.jpg

Rumour has it Dents entering one of these

:)

That would be one heck of a challenge. Different weapons, different ranges, methods of use.

I'm leaning more toward a challenge I can win!

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/38/116968856_a28dbf1192.jpg?v=0

Osu!

kanku
12-04-2010, 07:40 PM
Senshido and Wullie are two brothers that have the jolliest of personalities from what I can see!! However, I certainly wouldnt want the both of them on my tail!!:eek:

Awesome task on behalf of the both of you, and all others who have done multi man kumite!!

Osu!!

Believe me Joe, they are just as lethal in the bar!!:D

jcarmello
12-04-2010, 07:54 PM
Believe me Joe, they are just as lethal in the bar!!:D

I can imagine!!!!

wullie
12-04-2010, 08:03 PM
Believe me Joe, they are just as lethal in the bar!!:D
I have no idea what you mean?:confused::D:D

knuckleheader
12-05-2010, 12:50 AM
i did my fights to raise money for the local Multiple Sclerosis centre as my Mum attended, and at the time they were dangerously short of funds, i know i could probably raised more by fighting my way through the UFC ranks but my ground game is a bit basic, therefore it wasn't an option :D

as for the hurting and not hurting, personally i was a stumbling bruise for a few weeks after, burst ribs, both big toes fractured, a few fractured metacarpals (both hands) and also blood in my urine (thank you senshido!!!!:D), my 'helpers' weren't as bad because they weren't on the mat taking an asskicking that lasted for an hour and forty one minutes.
Osu-EN1

Ous wullie, I hope your mother is well as can be, with such a serious illness.
You must be blessed with great physical abilities that match the love for your
mom. Your motivation for doing the kumite wasn't ego.
No offense intended towards you in my post. Ous.



I wouldn't flame anyone for having an opinion of their own... all I can say is I did mine for me.
we dont use fighters that want to just get through hoping not to get hurt, if we only have 20 good fighters, they would all fight 5 times, if the opponents werent up to the task they wont be in there. Osu-EN1

Ous Senshido, it's the damage one suffers after the kumite. One has to have
terrific mental fortitude to match the physical. I could only wish I even came close to having both, too even consider such a task. I guess that since I don't have the greatest abilities. I don't understand why those who do, don't save it for that unexpected time of need.

Then there's the potential for lingering after effects. If people want to engage
in this type of "test", thats their choosing. We all have our own goals in Kyokushin. Ous.

jcarmello
12-05-2010, 03:48 AM
Then there's the potential for lingering


OOOOOHHH MAN!!! I had to read this three or four times because I kept seeing the word "LINGERIE"..........and thought it was about Wullies mankini or something??? I need sleep......I am really losing my brain!

wullie
12-05-2010, 07:08 AM
Ous wullie, I hope your mother is well as can be, with such a serious illness.
You must be blessed with great physical abilities that match the love for your
mom. Your motivation for doing the kumite wasn't ego.
No offense intended towards you in my post. Ous.





Ous Senshido, it's the damage one suffers after the kumite. One has to have
terrific mental fortitude to match the physical. I could only wish I even came close to having both, too even consider such a task. I guess that since I don't have the greatest abilities. I don't understand why those who do, don't save it for that unexpected time of need.

Then there's the potential for lingering after effects. If people want to engage
in this type of "test", thats their choosing. We all have our own goals in Kyokushin. Ous.

no offence was taken or assumed, everyone has opinions and i can't take offence at an opinion.
Mum's doing ok thanks.
i don't have any great physical or mental abilities, i'm average at best, but i do love my Mum and thanks to being Scottish i'm pretty pig headed so i don't give in easy :D
my goal in Kyokushin is to eventually get promoted to 1st Dan, that is if i can ever remember my kata:eek: senshido is pretty strict about the gradings and being his brother cuts no slack at all, the only promotion he gave me easily was to 'Crash Test Dummy' for demonstrating on :D

FredInChina
12-05-2010, 12:50 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itWvjFGBjss&feature=related

Rumour has it Dents entering one of these (from 4:47)

:)
LOL
That would be Gary's ancestor @ 7'56"!! :D

Osu!

GJEC
12-05-2010, 02:43 PM
Somewhat!

"If it's worth fighting for, it's worth fighting dirty for"

Gary

wullie
12-05-2010, 03:21 PM
Somewhat!

"If it's worth fighting for, it's worth fighting dirty for"

Gary
Nice! OSU!

eamoncramb
12-05-2010, 05:32 PM
Thats amazing guys! Thats proper budo ( am i right?) :P makes me proud being Scottish knowing weve got people like you guys!

Huge Osu!

wullie
12-05-2010, 05:42 PM
Thats amazing guys! Thats proper budo ( am i right?) :P makes me proud being Scottish knowing weve got people like you guys!

Huge Osu!

Thanks mate OSU!

senshido
12-05-2010, 05:51 PM
Aye Cheers ... although mine was many moons ago :)

jcarmello
12-05-2010, 06:40 PM
Somewhat!

"If it's worth fighting for, it's worth fighting dirty for"

Gary

Best Quote of the Day!!!!

Osu!!

Spirit
12-05-2010, 06:51 PM
One of the greatest days of my life was when I completed the 100-man

wullie
12-05-2010, 06:59 PM
One of the greatest days of my life was when I completed the 100-man
Congrats on doing it! Big OSU!!!

Spirit
12-05-2010, 07:17 PM
Congrats on doing it! Big OSU!!!
Thanks...
It was many, many years ago for Sandan

senshido
12-05-2010, 07:56 PM
One of the greatest days of my life was when I completed the 100-man

a hearty congratulations (albeit belated) from me too Osu!

jcarmello
12-05-2010, 09:13 PM
One of the greatest days of my life was when I completed the 100-man

Another big OSU!! Congratulations on that Spirit!!

sandman
12-06-2010, 12:15 AM
Me too! Congrats Spirit :)

FredInChina
12-06-2010, 08:30 AM
Very impressive Spirit, congrats. :)

Osu!

Hangtime
12-06-2010, 01:55 PM
Very cool. Congrats Spirit!

OSU!

kanku
12-06-2010, 01:59 PM
Thanks...
It was many, many years ago for Sandan

Nice to see you back posting Spirit!:)

Spirit
12-09-2010, 10:29 PM
Nice to see you back posting Spirit!:)

OSU everyone!!!! Thank you

I have to say that sparring was always something I enjoyed. Not to fight, not to bet another person... but to challenge myself and work to improve Me, just me....

But 100 man was something completely different. It was a greatest feeling after completed... during was just a blur.

I would have to say that if any of you while your young, and in a position to do it in a proper controlled environment, DO IT !!!!!!!!

Yes it is a test of will and power. But even if you lose every single match you still did it !!!! A million (or more I'm sure) BB's in the world but only a few can say they did it... It is worth every breath, every bruse, every tear, every everything.

You'll always be able to look back to say I did it, I took the chance and did it.
Personally of my 38 years of training nothing else compares to that day, nothing even comes close, no belt, no tourney win, Because it is so personal that it is yours and yours only for the rest of your life.

It must compare to jumping out of a plane (something I have yet to do but will some day)

Dent
12-09-2010, 10:53 PM
Osu!

It must compare to jumping out of a plane (something I have yet to do but will some day)

I was going to say the jump would likely be less painful. Then I remembered PowerofOne! :eek:

Osu!

powerof0ne
12-10-2010, 03:11 AM
Osu!



I was going to say the jump would likely be less painful. Then I remembered PowerofOne! :eek:

Osu!
LOL :D
I still think most of the time jumping out of a plane is a 100x easier then a 100 man kumite :D (pun intended). Well, I suppose that depends greatly on who your 100 rounds of kumite is all with, too!

I still have my "x rays" on a CD or DVD somewhere to show off the "goods".

I still think I got hurt because I was calming somebody down that was afraid to jump letting that person know "it's easy, you'll be fine". The one time I took Newton's law of gravity for granted was the one time I almost paid for my ego with my life...however, that person ended up being fine :cool:.

FredInChina
12-10-2010, 09:59 AM
(...) I still have my "x rays" (...) I got hurt because I was calming somebody down that was afraid to jump (...)
Hummm, really? :D:D

http://i994.photobucket.com/albums/af67/FredInChina/Mics%20stuff%20posted/PO1.jpg
haiiiiiiiii yahhhhhhhh!
Osu!

Minas
12-10-2010, 10:00 AM
hummm, Really? :d:d

http://i994.photobucket.com/albums/af67/fredinchina/mics%20stuff%20posted/po1.jpg

Osu!

:D :D
Lol

GJEC
12-10-2010, 10:11 AM
ROFLMAOAPMS

That's class Fred, pure class.

Gary

RJC
12-10-2010, 10:44 AM
To Senshido, Wullie, and Spirit:
It's great to have an opportunity to congratulate karateka such as yourselves on such a great accomplishment as the 100 kumite.
Its always been something which seemed lofty and unattainable to me, like SAS selection or a Kendo Hachidan. People such as yourselves inspire me to broaden my aspirations.
Osu

senshido
12-10-2010, 12:42 PM
To Senshido, Wullie, and Spirit:
It's great to have an opportunity to congratulate karateka such as yourselves on such a great accomplishment as the 100 kumite.
Its always been something which seemed lofty and unattainable to me, like SAS selection or a Kendo Hachidan. People such as yourselves inspire me to broaden my aspirations.
Osu

very kind of you to say so... thanks :)

sandman
12-10-2010, 01:23 PM
Hummm, really?

http://i994.photobucket.com/albums/af67/FredInChina/Mics%20stuff%20posted/PO1.jpg
haiiiiiiiii yahhhhhhhh!
Osu!

Beautiful Fred! Darned rep police are killing me!!!

:D :D

wullie
12-10-2010, 01:29 PM
Hummm, really? :D:D

http://i994.photobucket.com/albums/af67/FredInChina/Mics%20stuff%20posted/PO1.jpg
haiiiiiiiii yahhhhhhhh!
Osu!
LMAO! Well done Fred. Classic!

To Senshido, Wullie, and Spirit:
It's great to have an opportunity to congratulate karateka such as yourselves on such a great accomplishment as the 100 kumite.
Its always been something which seemed lofty and unattainable to me, like SAS selection or a Kendo Hachidan. People such as yourselves inspire me to broaden my aspirations.
Osu
Thank you. OSU!

Hangtime
12-10-2010, 01:34 PM
FredInChina: The most under-recognized sense of humor on K4L...possibly even the world!!

Funny!!!

powerof0ne
12-10-2010, 03:00 PM
Hummm, really? :D:D

http://i994.photobucket.com/albums/af67/FredInChina/Mics%20stuff%20posted/PO1.jpg
haiiiiiiiii yahhhhhhhh!
Osu!
Damn you, water poodle! Well d one! :P
Osu!

FredInChina
12-10-2010, 03:03 PM
Damn you, water poodle! Well d one! :P
Osu!
ROFL!

Now you are really looking forward to meeting with me... :eek::D

Osu!

powerof0ne
12-10-2010, 03:19 PM
Any of you curious of my injury look at "Fred's picture", see the 2 bony parts that come together at the bottom of the coke bottle, that's the pubis symphysis. Now look at my avatar and see the gap in between them and the full bladder that had to be drained (via cathiter :()...mine opened up or separated 4 cm. Pubis symphysis is supposed to stay together, so the docs tell me :cool:.

Boring human anatomy class over with and my bum is exit only not sure what Fred is all into :P! However, well played, Fred! LOL.
Osu!

jcarmello
12-10-2010, 03:55 PM
not sure what Fred is all into :P! However, well played, Fred! LOL.
Osu!

Fred was busted by the TSA smuggling Coke!!!

sandman
12-10-2010, 03:57 PM
Fred was busted by the TSA smuggling Coke!!!

LOL! Xrays of coke smugglers normally look much different I'll bet :D

FredInChina
12-10-2010, 03:57 PM
Fred was busted by the TSA smuggling Coke!!!
LOL - well played JCarmello!

Osu!

wullie
12-10-2010, 04:01 PM
Fred was busted by the TSA smuggling Coke!!!
ROFL! Good one Joe!

jcbel
12-10-2010, 06:21 PM
Fred was busted by the TSA smuggling Coke!!!

I didn't realize Coke was banned in China...



:D:D:D

Okamido
12-10-2010, 06:50 PM
Senshido, Wullie & Spirit,

Congratulations on what I think is an inspirational achievement.

Loud OSU!

senshido
12-10-2010, 09:19 PM
cheers Okamido :)

wullie
12-10-2010, 09:55 PM
thanks Okamido :o

Spirit
12-19-2010, 10:48 AM
to Senshido, Wullie, And Spirit:
It's Great To Have An Opportunity To Congratulate Karateka Such As Yourselves On Such A Great Accomplishment As The 100 Kumite.
Its Always Been Something Which Seemed Lofty And Unattainable To Me, Like Sas Selection Or A Kendo Hachidan. People Such As Yourselves Inspire Me To Broaden My Aspirations.
Osu

Osu...

senshido, Wullie & Spirit,

Congratulations On What I Think Is An Inspirational Achievement.

Loud osu!

Osu...

Joe
12-20-2010, 12:45 AM
Osu, I wish I could stand a 100 man kumite!

GJEC
12-20-2010, 02:16 PM
At 54 years 10 months I am now officially the oldest to do 100 kumite.

I hate Tesco's this near to Christmas, it's savage.

Gary

jcarmello
12-20-2010, 02:17 PM
at 54 Years 10 Months I Am Now Officially The Oldest To Do 100 Kumite.

I Hate Tesco's This Near To Christmas, It's Savage.

Gary

Lmfao!!!!!!!!

senshido
12-20-2010, 02:20 PM
At 54 years 10 months I am now officially the oldest to do 100 kumite.

I hate Tesco's this near to Christmas, it's savage.

Gary

do trolley fights count? :D

GJEC
12-20-2010, 02:26 PM
It's bare-knuckle stuff near the pork pie counter ...

Other to that trolleys clashing all round and a near punch up over a parking space. (That was just Lisa)

Gary

FredInChina
12-20-2010, 02:30 PM
I hate Tesco's this near to Christmas, it's savage.
LOL Gary... :)
What happened to the economic crisis? :confused:

Osu!

GJEC
12-20-2010, 02:32 PM
What happened to the economic crisis?

My wife's trying her best to spend her way out of it.

Gary

FredInChina
12-20-2010, 02:47 PM
My wife's trying her best to spend her way out of it.

Gary
:D
a live experiment...
Osu!

Dean
12-20-2010, 02:50 PM
At 54 years 10 months I am now officially the oldest to do 100 kumite.

I hate Tesco's this near to Christmas, it's savage.

Gary

Sainsbury's is no better it's carnage in there today and i have to go back again before Xmas:eek: 10 rounds of hard sparring is a doddle compared to what i just been through. Them old ladies are nasty :D

Okamido
12-22-2010, 07:24 PM
Great posts guys - very enjoyable reading :)

Merry Christmas and Best Wishes to all for 2011!

Osu!

Dobbersky
12-30-2010, 11:54 AM
OSU!!!

Anyone train with Sensei Shikei Matsui

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hopqMm14XMw&feature=player_embedded#!

Dent
12-30-2010, 01:31 PM
Osu!

I've trained with Matsui Kancho at a number of post-tournament events, but didn't get to train with him at Hombu. Maybe in the future.

Osu!

FredInChina
12-30-2010, 02:07 PM
Osu!

I've trained with Matsui Kancho at a number of post-tournament events, but didn't get to train with him at Hombu. Maybe in the future.

Osu!
I've trained with Matsui Kancho in NY :) after the tourney last September (Thanks Dent to take me in ;))
Can you imagine that? :D

Osu!

Mixmasta01
12-30-2010, 02:13 PM
Osu!

I've trained with Matsui Kancho at a number of post-tournament events, but didn't get to train with him at Hombu. Maybe in the future.

Osu!

How was the experience, in detail of course? :)

Dent
12-30-2010, 06:02 PM
Osu!

How was the experience, in detail of course? :)

As with any training, a lot depended on him on the day. Some times there have been good, specific corrections or detailed training, but other times he didn't seem happy to be there. He's completely human. :)

Osu!

GJEC
12-30-2010, 06:13 PM
Some times there have been good, specific corrections or detailed training, but other times he didn't seem happy to be there. He's completely human.

Worth noting for all top dogs, especially when travelling hundreds of miles to be inspired. We sometimes have unrealistic expectations.

Gary

FredInChina
12-30-2010, 06:36 PM
As with any training, a lot depended on him on the day. Some times there have been good, specific corrections or detailed training, but other times he didn't seem happy to be there. He's completely human. :)
LOL
I was wondering how you'd answer that one... :D
Right side okay, left side okay, middle of the road, (noise of a grape squashed between fingers)!
I am proposing Dent for the most diplomatic mod of the year. ;)
We'll have to wait for the next wikileaks batch release of internal memos then...

Osu!

Dent
12-30-2010, 08:20 PM
Osu!

Worth noting for all top dogs, especially when travelling hundreds of miles to be inspired. We sometimes have unrealistic expectations.

Most important lesson to learn if you want any longevity in the arts. Too many are too attached to ideals. Pragmaticism is often seen as something ugly and deviant, which is why Karate, like Yoga, Tai Chi or even religion can be used to manipulate followers. It's a fine line between student and heretic.

LOL
I was wondering how you'd answer that one... :D
Right side okay, left side okay, middle of the road, (noise of a grape squashed between fingers)!
I am proposing Dent for the most diplomatic mod of the year. ;)
We'll have to wait for the next wikileaks batch release of internal memos then...

In my opinion, that session was the worst I've been part of. I was disappointed for both of us. Both the ones in Bali and Fukuoka were so much better, and I was hoping you'd be getting one of those. Mitsumine was middle of the road, but I know there were health issues. I'd still like to do the Banff Camp, because I hear it's one of the best.

Osu!

FredInChina
12-30-2010, 08:31 PM
(...) I'd still like to do the Banff Camp, because I hear it's one of the best.
Osu! :)

Mixmasta01
12-31-2010, 08:15 AM
Osu!



As with any training, a lot depended on him on the day. Some times there have been good, specific corrections or detailed training, but other times he didn't seem happy to be there. He's completely human. :)

Osu!

Understandable. Every one has those days now and then. Thanks.