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Old 06-16-2007, 05:03 AM
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Post Zanshin
Kimewaza is generally used when one gets a wazaari or ippon showing that one has enough time to excute a blow to end the fight but the final blow is not allowed when one is down.

Kime = ? : (Verb) Kimeru = Decide
Waza = Technique



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When one is down or winded -> seiken gyaku tsuki in air at your opponent -> pull back your seiken then oizuki(open finger?) shown in the pic above.

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I think this is better called "zanshin".

"Kimewaza" means the finishing move and nowadays it is mostly associated with shimewaza or kansetsuwaza. In Kyokushin kimewaza can mean the last strike in yakusoku kumite, or the finishing technique in jiyu kumite.

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Zanshin is very typical in Japanese martial arts to show full execution of a technique and follow-through. In many arts (kendo comes to mind) where points are taken, the judge will not give you the point if proper zanshin is not shown after.
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I always see two kinds:

Half-hearted and spaztistic follow-throughs.

People that do it half-heartedly clearly knocked out their opponents into oblivion. They act like "Meh, another day at the office."

People that do it spaztisticly try to convince the judges that the opponent is hurt when all he did was just lose his balance. They act like "OMGHI2U!"
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Zanshin is very typical in Japanese martial arts to show full execution of a technique and follow-through. In many arts (kendo comes to mind) where points are taken, the judge will not give you the point if proper zanshin is not shown after.
I would like to elaborate a little more on this.
It is seen as the ability to continue and be aware of all things around you even when stoped or finished a waza and have the abiltity to continue and control the fight.
Basicly often you will see people score or k/d an apponent and then drop their "gaurd" and "awarness" the oppenent can still rise in a split second and continue, zanshin is the state of mind and controll within, during and after in kumite or in self defense ...
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I always see two kinds:

Half-hearted and spaztistic follow-throughs.

People that do it half-heartedly clearly knocked out their opponents into oblivion. They act like "Meh, another day at the office."

People that do it spaztisticly try to convince the judges that the opponent is hurt when all he did was just lose his balance. They act like "OMGHI2U!"
LOL feels i totally agree with you
Especially the spaztistic follow-throughs haha

And yes this is call Zanshin

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I have not heard of a specific manner of technique being named "zanchin" before now. I have always thought that zanchin was a mental state of being. It's like how a person will have all senses open when scanning an area for potential danger.

Here is one definition of the term that I was taught: "Zanchin or "state of total awareness" is also used when training and in combat. Zanchin allows the martial artist to be aware of what's around him, to have a sort of sixth sense, brought about by experience and instinct."

Am I confusing "zanshin", and "zanchin"? My apologies if I'm getting the wrong impressions.

I have seen the half-hearted, over-emphasized, and spastic killing blows also. Your apt description brought a smile to my face.
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Dear supergroup7,
It is "zanshin". Your view about the mental state very well describes the mental state of a fighter should have when showing the "zanshin gesture.

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