Biggest tournaments in Organizations / Styles

[nangoushuujin]

I wonder how the European Championships compare with an All Japan or the All Kanto tournament.

An All Kanto tournament would have at least 64 fighters proven through regional feeder tournaments. These would have an Open Draw of about aprox32 fighters.

The All Japan is the accumulation of the All Kanto, All Tohoku, All Kansai, All Chugoku, All Shikoku, All kyushu and some of the regional champions.

I'm guessing an European Championship would be similar with the various national titles providing the feeder tournaments.

Has anyone mentioned the All American Tournament? Similar process I reckon!

[kakatootoshi]

All Kanto indeed is arguably the most important tournament in Japan besides All-Japan and All-Japan Weight.

There is a saying which goes like "To conqueur the world one must first conquer All-Japan. To conquer All-Japan one must first conquer All-Kanto. Kazumi Hajime Kancho and Suzuki Kunihiro Shihan have bothed won the All-Kanto in their career.

OSU!

[koji112091]

I have a slightly stupid question but I don't know the answer so it does not matter.

If you belong to one organization, can you fight in another's tournament? I'm sure it varies more than this. OSU!

[kyokushin4life]

Keep them coming everyone! Osu!

[Nix]

Originally Posted by koji112091

If you belong to one organization, can you fight in another's tournament? I'm sure it varies more than this.

I think it depends on the particular question, but there are loads of open tournaments in Europe. In Denmark for instance, Ashihara and Kyokushinkai regularilly fight at the same tournaments. Sometimes under Ashihara rules, sometimes under Kyokushin and sometimes we even compromise. But the Sabaki Challenge Spirit which is also held in Denmark, is the official Ashihara World Cup, and is therefore restricted to NIKO members only.

[olyckan]

If a tournament is named "open" it is generally open to other organisations, Although it might not be open for other styles. In sweden we had a tournament called F.I.S.T a few years back. It put up both ashihara and kyukoshin fighters from several european countries in the same tournament.. To bad it hasnt been going for the last 2-3 years..

[Martin H]

Originally Posted by koji112091

I have a slightly stupid question but I don't know the answer so it does not matter.

If you belong to one organization, can you fight in another's tournament? I'm sure it varies more than this. OSU!

It varies.
Some organization cooperate quite closely and are regularly represented at each others competitions. Seido kaikan cooperate with IKO1 a lot. shin-kyokushin cooperates a lot with ashihara (NIKO) and Byakuren kaikan. To the point where there often are "guest" fighters in world championships that technically is internal for the organization only.

Between different factions of kyokyushin, it is a bit more delicate. but as a rule -due to the complicated legal situation in Japan, thee large groups dont fight in each others events very often. even if it is a open event where they are welcome. Entering the tournament of another group could be seen as "accepting" them -which the leadership in Japan would not look very kindly on. But it seems like the relations are tawing up reasonably quickly compared to the deadlock of a few years ago.

[Bloke]

I suspect that there is far more co-operation in Europe.