What Women Want - Page 2

**Brad** · 01-24-2008, 05:20 AM

I thought what women want is a good man. Sorry gals hope i dont get in trouble for that comment.

madflojo · 01-24-2008, 05:38 AM

I usually try and feel out the person I am sparring against when it is my first time sparring them. In fact there is a woman in my class that I hit harder than a specific guy in my class only because she can take it better (He is still kinda new). I usually get yelled at either by the woman I spar or by the sensei if i take it to light but its not always easy finding exactly how to spar with a woman.

Sometimes i catch myself thinking I am going to hard but I am not it all depends on the person and asking is usually the best method. But honestly as a guy I find it alot easier to spar a girl if she wears a chest protector. I can put more power into my kicks/punches and not have to worry about the exact location of where my punches land.

I figure getting hit in the chest for a girl is about equivalent to getting hit in the groin for a guy. It sure as heck can't feel to good.

Elmarie · 01-24-2008, 07:14 AM

Wow, interesting topic.

Yes I like men respecting women for what they have achieved or who are working towards achieving their goals. During the years I had a couple of excellent training partners and mostly male. One might have flexibility, the other perhaps speed, but most have power, but always controlled. If you get to a certain age or level then you think the same and you know what you want from karate and you are there to help each other. I have found that with girls theres always giggling(hihi hi-hi), "oh sorry", "oh did I hurt you"??? Luckily theres a couple of females with the right attitude who trains well and learn from one another, but ...

I think that for some men, control does not come easy. How long does it take to learn the art of control? What if its not in a male to learn control? What if it's someone close to you?

Elmarie · 01-24-2008, 07:55 AM

Hey, do ... I know you, pehaps? I trained with Shihan Dave Bristow in Bothasig from 1978 to 1990/1991. Would really like to know.

**Olrac** · 01-24-2008, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Brad

I thought what women want is a good man. Sorry gals hope i dont get in trouble for that comment.

I thought that they want a credit card without limit

sublimo · 01-24-2008, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Elmarie

Wow, interesting topic.

I think that for some men, control does not come easy. How long does it take to learn the art of control? What if its not in a male to learn control? What if it's someone close to you?

If we see in our dojo that some men can t controle themselve, the instructor warn the guy. If he can t controle it they just stop the sparring. If he do that again mostly he get punished in sparring by the other members off the dojo.

If he still can t cotrole himselve (what I rarely see afther a few lessons) he may only spar with competition girls and heavier males.

**ksan** · 01-24-2008, 09:17 AM

**Brad** · 01-24-2008, 09:35 AM

orlac you're going to get us in trouble brother. lol. p.s nice one sublimo i dont know about thoes cocky ones though.

sublimo · 01-24-2008, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Brad

I thought what women want is a good man.

Wrong! This is what a women wants:

A baaad boy!

Womens please admit it:

You'll go for the guy who walks with that cocky, rhythmic sway and who enters the dojo like he owns it. You will be attracted to his coolness, aggressiveness, and of course that damn sexy body. You know he is bad news, but you can't stop those butterflies from fluttering in your stomach every lesson you see him and maybe with a superwoman like you in his life, he'll give up his bad ways. So if you're looking for love, you'll probably find him in Sutani dojo in Belgium somewhere, looking fine and breaking hearts.

**Olrac** · 01-24-2008, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by sublimo

Wrong! This is what a women wants:

A baaad boy!

Womens please admit it:

You'll go for the guy who walks with that cocky, rhythmic sway and who enters the dojo like he owns it. You will be attracted to his coolness, aggressiveness, and of course that damn sexy body. You know he is bad news, but you can't stop those butterflies from fluttering in your stomach every lesson you see him and maybe with a superwoman like you in his life, he'll give up his bad ways. So if you're looking for love, you'll probably find him in Sutani dojo in Belgium somewhere, looking fine and breaking hearts.

Sounds just like me, especcially the part of that sexy body

Only the part of Sutani Dojo is incorrect

seienchin · 01-24-2008, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by sublimo

Wrong! This is what a women wants:

A baaad boy!

Womens please admit it:

You'll go for the guy who walks with that cocky, rhythmic sway and who enters the dojo like he owns it. You will be attracted to his coolness, aggressiveness, and of course that damn sexy body. You know he is bad news, but you can't stop those butterflies from fluttering in your stomach every lesson you see him and maybe with a superwoman like you in his life, he'll give up his bad ways. So if you're looking for love, you'll probably find him in Sutani dojo in Belgium somewhere, looking fine and breaking hearts.

Sublimo - that is very cute. Maybe we need to start a "lonely hearts" forum! Where karateka can meet other people who understand about smelly dogis.

But just for the record - Bad boys lose their appeal pretty quickly if they really are bad...I have been with my husband for almost 20 years. He didn't swagger, he didn't swear (well, maybe a bit) and he is smart, articulate, cultured and NICE. I dated some "bad boys" before that...never lasted more than six months.

Also for the record - I have just discussed this with said Husband...who says it is indeed true that women only go for bad boys, and that the reason I fell for him is that I am weird!

Gotta love 'im.

Now - after that ode to love - back on topic.

I agree actually with pretty much everyone - because this is one of those things that is personal...so everyone has their own way. What is clear to me throughout the posts is that as long as it is not patronising, most women are happy to work on things with male sparring partners that dont' just require full-strength bashing.

My own perspective is that I think if you as a woman want to do tournament fighting, then going it hard with the men is excellent preparation, provided you don't get injured, and don't get too used to not being kicked in the head by an opponent who is in punching range...

I think women gain in strength and conditioning by working with men, and men gain speed and versatility by working with women. Viva la difference. As long as it is done with respect, and is mutually satisfactory, anything goes.

Chimofu · 01-24-2008, 11:08 AM

the women wants... that I take pictures of them!! And I love it to take of them!!!

**hasbeen** · 01-24-2008, 04:00 PM

a man found out what women really want and died laughing !

mpeters · 01-24-2008, 06:20 PM

I am one of those males that were brought up never to hit girls/women, but in the dojo setting I am a firm believer in "give what you get" weather your partner is male or female. If someone goes hard, you go hard back, plan and simple, if it tones down then fine tone it down. Basically I let the opponent set the intensity. As has already been stated girls are generally quicker, and more flexible than guys (or me anyway) and I use this to help with my defense, sabaki etc. On more than one occasion I've been tagged with a Jodan from a girl. (guess I need to work more on my defense).

Osu

shinobijesus · 01-30-2008, 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by mary222

the ideal training partner is not affraid to hurt me and can control his temper. usually either you get the one that is not even trying to fight caus' your a girl (his gentlemen side i guess) or the one that lose any sense of control if you get him good (at lease you learn to get hit)
so guys what side are u on? no offense !

i open doors for any woman who happens to be nearby, i pull out chairs for my own lady when we go to a restraunt and i always pay, ive never spoken in anger to a woman or girl, ive never struck a woman at all until i started Kyokushin and if i sparr with a woman at the dojo i dont treat her like "one of the guys" cause shes not.

chivalry is not dead. well, not entirely...

shinobijesus · 01-30-2008, 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Brad

I thought what women want is a good man. Sorry gals hope i dont get in trouble for that comment.

absolutely wrong. it was even on the radio recently, a survey had a ridiculously high percentage like 75%, 85%, something like that, of women will ALWAYS go for the bad guy over the good guy.

nice guys finish last.

Tettsui · 02-01-2008, 11:52 PM

Women want nice but they don't want a wuss. They want someone with confidence and leadership. Being nice because a woman is pretty makes you a wuss and disingenuous in their eyes. The bad boy usually has the confidence and isn't nice because a woman is good looking. That's why they get the girl, not because they are bad.

seienchin · 02-02-2008, 10:32 AM

Just a gentle reminder all - this thread is not meant to be about romance, but about training. But the insights are interesting! Can we get back on topic please (after that interesting digression).

**DKKC** · 02-10-2008, 12:44 PM

Haven't been able to access the forum for a while and coming back to this thread now, it looks to me that we are no closer in finding out what women want, but we found out what men want women to want!!

Men want women to want ... men!!!!

Davidkyokushinstudent · 02-10-2008, 01:18 PM

When fighting a female i try and let her set the pace, this way I know how hard sh is allowing me to hit her. I think this is the safest way.

As for the women wanting a bad boy, this is so true. I was the baddest, until my missus got her hands on me!!
Now its yes dear, no dear. Anything you want dear! The want a bad boy so they can tame him. Dont be fooled!

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