Jodan kicks

[Olrac]

I was wondering; can you train this or must one be born that way?
I won't try this as I know allready that I'll have to see the doctor.



YouTube - Female Ninja

[seienchin]

Hmmm - I think a bit of both. I suspect that she has hip dysplasia (where the hip sockets are very shallow, giving a very wide range of movement). I also think she probably trained from a very young age as either a ballet dancer or a gymnast.

I am initially jealous, then I realise that it isn't actually very useful to be able to kick upwards vertically. Most attackers don't drop down on you from the roof, (unless you are in a Star-trek episode).

how old are you Olrac? There may be time if you take up ballet now?

[Spirit]

As a teen I could kick the basketball rim, all it got me was detention and a few girls attention for a short moment...

[Olrac]

[quote=seienchin;30084]Hmmm - I think a bit of both. I suspect that she has hip dysplasia (where the hip sockets are very shallow, giving a very wide range of movement). I also think she probably trained from a very young age as either a ballet dancer or a gymnast.

I am initially jealous, then I realise that it isn't actually very useful to be able to kick upwards vertically. Most attackers don't drop down on you from the roof, (unless you are in a Star-trek episode).

how old are you Olrac? There may be time if you take up ballet now?


I'll be 40 in just a few days (sept. 8)
so I don't think ballet lessons will be very usefull.
As for the "attackers from the sky"...I'm only 168cm short so a bit more flexibility would be welcome

[nzproud]

You can train and be like that if you are a teenager but if you are 30+ then it would be difficult to get the flexibility and better joints for what it's required to do those kicks. But I wouldn't say it's impossible.

I would say join an acrobatic gym, or contact any human resources companies that hold a record of martialartists (stunts men) around your area. They will perhaps tell you where you can train to be like that.

[nzproud]

or you could always try cosmetic surgeries eh..? sculpting..

Anyway I too have the same interests so let's start practicing now!

Anyone?

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I AGREE

Osu!

[Satori]

Originally Posted by nzproud

You can train and be like that if you are a teenager but if you are 30+ then it would be difficult to get the flexibility and better joints for what it's required to do those kicks. But I wouldn't say it's impossible.

I would say join an acrobatic gym, or contact any human resources companies that hold a record of martialartists (stunts men) around your area. They will perhaps tell you where you can train to be like that.

Great advice, spot on.

I'll just state the obvious for those for whom it isn't obvious. To do that kind of thing you need to have developed:
- static passive flexibility > 180 degrees in all types of splits
- static active flexibility > 180 degrees in all types of splits
- dynamic flexibility equal to your static active flexibility

Unfortunately, at the moment the splits are my maximum stretch, though I need to stretch before going into the splits. So, in my case I'd need to work on my dynamic and static active flexibility the most, but I'd still also need greater static passive flexibility than just the splits.

[Johnnie]

I think you have to be trained as a yongster to do that.
yeh starting my training at 11 standing at 140cm also, i found great advantage in competition using high fast kicks to KO. so my sensei advised me to take gymnastics. I did and it not only improved my flexiility but my core muscles as well. Now as a late teen and still only growing 28 cm -_- i worked up to being able to kick 184 cm with a jordan mawashi and up to 195 with a ushira mawashi. I think gymnastics is a great help, so if you gte kids into kyokushin, start them on gymnastics as well. There are unlimited boundaries. And the girls are hot :P

[supergroup7]

Wow.. that Female Ninja shows enhanced flexibility especially on her last move where she pulls her legs beyond 180 degrees. This reminds me of the Chinese contortionists, and gymnasts that are capable of that kind of ability. To my knowledge this takes constant stretching, training, and pliability from the age of 3 years.

The french comment on the youtube page with this video says something like "It hurts just to watch her." I have to agree.. that is quite a display of flexibility, and control.

I've read that being able to stretch beyond natural means can make an athlete more susceptible to injuries.. not less. It may not necessarilly be a good thing to be able to kick that high.

[Spirit]

all the Yoga women I know are like that as well...

[supergroup7]

One question I have to ask is: Are these people capable of keeping that high range of flexibility into their more mature, senior years? That would be a nice thought. Or do the tendons, and other body parts age to the point where they lower the ability to be flexible?

[Satori]

Originally Posted by supergroup7

One question I have to ask is: Are these people capable of keeping that high range of flexibility into their more mature, senior years? That would be a nice thought. Or do the tendons, and other body parts age to the point where they lower the ability to be flexible?

Flexibility and muscle strength does decrease with age, however if they keep up their stretching they'll still be more flexible in their senior years than most of us ever were. An 80 year old can still do magnificent splits.

[Olrac]

Originally Posted by Satori

Flexibility and muscle strength does decrease with age, however if they keep up their stretching they'll still be more flexible in their senior years than most of us ever were. An 80 year old can still do magnificent splits.

Osu Satori-san,
That's right. My mother is 67 years old and she still teaches gymnastics.
Altough the last years she stopped teaching young people and switched to older people and housewives (not the desperate ones, unfortunately)
And yes, she can still do splits.

[fixi]

keeping flexibility is way easier, then getting, if your becoming older.

[supergroup7]

But it should be possible to improve one's limited flexibility even as they age, right? Consistency, and persistence would be the key to keeping what one has, and progressing a little farther. I doubt that I could achieve what the Ninja woman has attained, but I'm sure that I can hope for a little better each day.

[Satori]

Originally Posted by supergroup7

But it should be possible to improve one's limited flexibility even as they age, right? Consistency, and persistence would be the key to keeping what one has, and progressing a little farther. I doubt that I could achieve what the Ninja woman has attained, but I'm sure that I can hope for a little better each day.

When done properly, isometric stretching benefits everyone. Frailty with extreme age becomes an obstacle to any physical activity, however flexibility can be increased at any age.

[sonofkanga]

A good friend of my parents who had trouble bending over and tying his shoe laces.Started Yoga at the age of 62.After 3 years he could sit in the PadmaAsana(lotus),twenty five years on he still can.