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Old 04-25-2008, 03:20 PM
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Question Training At Home...
As i said in other posts before, i train at home, and i asked myself, in dojos they give belts and have tests......how do i test myself?

I know that every time i train im improving, but how do i know how much? how can I "assign myself a belt" when i deserve it?

i thank you in advance, sll of you that offer help, or just wanna answer...
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Does it matter how much you improve? The fact that you improve is good. Steady improvement is really the best (I think) as opposed to sharp improvements - then stagnation - then sharp improvement etc., althought they are both part of training.

In terms of measuring your progress you could - film yourself performing certain techiniques, combinations, kata, sparring , bag work etc. at different intervals (every 3 months) and asess yourself from there.

In terms of stamina - do the same circuit/exercises at different intervals and see how much your stamina/speed/strenght has improved - I suppose yuo can see that in every day training as well.

Also - you can enter tournaments and asess yourself based o that performance - althought there is much more to doing well in a tournamnet that just plain hard training.

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thank you for your advice. I really liked the idea of filming myself... even though id have to get a camera; and the one about the stamina ..thank you
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Why do you need a cotton strip to know what your capabilities are? The purpose of the belt system is to set the hierarchy in the dojo, and to give the other students a pointer to your skills. Since you are the only student I see no reason for that, only complications. If you really need a guideline, have someone with the authority to do examinations grade you. In my opinion awarding yourself with ranks are unnescesarry and cheesy, and will have no grounds in the real world.

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As i said in other posts before, i train at home, and i asked myself, in dojos they give belts and have tests......how do i test myself?

I know that every time i train im improving, but how do i know how much? how can I "assign myself a belt" when i deserve it?

i thank you in advance, sll of you that offer help, or just wanna answer...
For what it's worth, I've been training in Karate for over thirty years, and still don't feel I deserve any grade. The best I can hope for is to live up to the responsibility of the training. And most of the time I feel inadequate to that task too.

I seriously recommend that you make every effort to find a legitimate Dojo. Self-training has its benefits, but with good, qualified instruction, you won't have to re-invent the wheel.

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Why do you need a cotton strip to know what your capabilities are? The purpose of the belt system is to set the hierarchy in the dojo, and to give the other students a pointer to your skills. Since you are the only student I see no reason for that, only complications. If you really need a guideline, have someone with the authority to do examinations grade you. In my opinion awarding yourself with ranks are unnescesarry and cheesy, and will have no grounds in the real world.

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i didnt say that i NEED a belt, that was just a methafore.
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For what it's worth, I've been training in Karate for over thirty years, and still don't feel I deserve any grade. The best I can hope for is to live up to the responsibility of the training. And most of the time I feel inadequate to that task too.

I seriously recommend that you make every effort to find a legitimate Dojo. Self-training has its benefits, but with good, qualified instruction, you won't have to re-invent the wheel.

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yea, i know, training at home it's hard, but i do it because there's no kyokushin dojo in my area....
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yea, i know, training at home it's hard, but i do it because there's no kyokushin dojo in my area....
but thanks anyway
What about training doing other martial arts mauy thai or mixed martail arts theres got to be somthing around osu.
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Dear kabirlovero,
I understand your difficulty and seriously there are many people in the world who have no access to any dojos. But if there are some other schools, even boxing or wrestling (or even football, I mean it), I recommend you to give it a try first. In Kyokushin home training is more for those who are experienced and taught the good basics under watchful eyes of legitimate instructors. I am not looking down upon you or anything but Kyokushin training by and solely by self-teaching is a bit, unworthy of mentioning.

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I know that every time i train im improving, but how do i know how much? how can I "assign myself a belt" when i deserve it?
To answer your question, go join a tournament against those who have trained in dojos and see how long you can hold out, then come back and tell us your feelings. If you cannot find a tournament or people who have trained properly to spar with, sorry but I have to say the "belt thing" you can forget it completely as it does not apply to your situation. If you learn to swim and cannot find water near you, it is just meaningless to even try figure out how good you can swim. I believe that your training has improved your health, agility and other attributes but correct forms and good fighting are other things.

There is NO WAY that you can test yourself:
If we ask you to fight someone, you have no one to fight.
If we ask you to perform a Kata, there is no way that you can tell it is correct or not.
If we ask you to break something, without proper supervision you may hurt yourself.

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Osu! KakatoOtoshi,

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[b]If you learn to swim and cannot find water near you, it is just meaningless to even try figure out how good you can swim. I believe that your training has improved your health, agility and other attributes but correct forms and good fighting are other things.

There is NO WAY that you can test yourself:
If we ask you to fight someone, you have no one to fight.
If we ask you to perform a Kata, there is no way that you can tell it is correct or not.
If we ask you to break something, without proper supervision you may hurt yourself.

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Great post, and great analogy! Please find something in your rep stocking!

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in my opinion karate can't train at home or lonely .
you will miss many thing that you can take from other player also you can't see all your mistake .
chose a dojo and start the training .
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One book which may be helpfull is The Budo Karate of Mas Oyama, by Shihan Cameron Quinn. There is a great section in this book on grades, and it covers important things besides syllabus such as mental attitude, diet, and responsibility, that each grade should be familiar with.
It could serve as a comparative guideline for your training.
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What about training doing other martial arts mauy thai or mixed martail arts theres got to be somthing around osu.
i live in a small city in a small state... the only thing near to a dojo is a kenpo karate class....
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Dear kabirlovero,
I am sure you have been training hard but to put someone self-taught, with no sparring partners against someone being professional trained, I will always bet on the latter. But it is after all your training, your call.

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Dear kabirlovero,
I am sure you have been training hard but to put someone self-taught, with no sparring partners against someone being professional trained, I will always bet on the latter. But it is after all your training, your call.

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yea i know , being taught is better....
i use training videos, books...etc....
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I'm Alex, I live in Constanta (Romania) and I had practised kyokushinkai in ''Sakura'' dojo until 4 years ago. But in life there are some steps you can't overtake. I never quite, I still practice at home and I have books and other things with Mas.Oyama, Dojo kun, etc. I like kyokushin techniques because it prouves that are efficient and practicing martial arts is very good for body and mind. I'll never stop practising, even at home.
That's why I said lease send me all kind of things with kyokushinkai (ex: kata, techniques, etc...)
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i live in a small city in a small state... the only thing near to a dojo is a kenpo karate class....
So what's wrong with kenpo karate? :S Take what you get, I say.

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I'm Alex, I live in Constanta (Romania)
Coincidentally, I happen to have a cousin of some sort named Alex in Constanta... You don't just happpen to have some Norwegian family, do you?
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So what's wrong with kenpo karate? :S Take what you get, I say.
This is quite true.
I want to do Muay thai but theres none in my town.
So i looked at what was available in my area and decided on kyokushin very glad I did.

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This is quite true.
I want to do Muay thai but theres none in my town.
So i looked at what was available in my area and decided on kyokushin very glad I did.
i think ill join tat dojo....but ill still practice kyokushin...
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