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Old 07-06-2008, 10:36 PM
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which state of mind on kumite?
OSU! hi to all again i've been lost for a while now ...work and familly well you all know how it is..my question is this ..which state of mind you think is better for kumite a peacefull trankil mind or an agressive but focus stance? and also wich one of does you acctually use in kumite, cause you know , one thing is to think whats better and other to do it so.
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I don't know about either too peaceful, or too aggressive, but I always aim to be focused. It doesn't pay to be distracted during Kumite.

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I'm very peaceful when i fight.
I think i need more passion and intensity. Not to say i don't enjoy fighting, but i think too much.
I think it is better to be aggressive but focused. Aggressive means you attack and block instinctively rather than defend and defend some more :P
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Old 07-07-2008, 07:56 PM
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I prefer to flow naturally, I react to a kick or punch as I receive them. I try to be as peaceful as possible as to not burn out to quickly, but not peaceful enough to give the upper hand to my opponent. I've always looked at the best fighters for inspiration, and in my book, Kancho Shokei Matsui is right up there, and I try to imitate as much as possible. Hajime Kazumi also comes to mind, another calm yet sturdy fighter.
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I think it depends on who your fighting, im naturaly very aggressive and preffer to push the pace of a fight. This is often effective for me, but one of my instructors is a very good counter fighter and he just picks me appart which can be very frustrating lol. I think its best to fight with intensity but try to remain emotionaly detached. Thats just how ifight best anyway.
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OSU!..what i think needs to be considered is that no two fights are the same, so with this in mind, my opinion is to relax..keep your hands up and see what happens...................imo a good fighter has "no" frame of mind, he just concentrates and focuses on the fight and nothing else.
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Why not both????

I would say that is my state of mind when sparring..
When fighting I could not tell you.
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Relaxed in defense , Intense in attack & focused, always focused.
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Old 07-17-2008, 04:33 AM
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For me, I'd say both. You shouldn't have all peace or all aggression as certain times require one or the other. I'll give an example for goju-ryu karate (what i study). Even though it's not meant to have too much contact, there are times when peace and aggression are required. For example, peace could be used for convserving more energy, such as when you're blocking or stepping to the side and hitting. Aggression would be when you've gotten past the opponent's guard somehow and now you're going at him.

I think it's important that for either state, you remain in control. By this, I mean if someone hits you, you don't try to "swing for the fences" and try to beat him to a pulp. I try to always remember that it's a sport, so the person across from you is your opponent NOT your enemy; in either case, yes you want to be victorious but if they're your opponent, you'll still want them to move around and you may help them up, however, if they were your enemy, you'd want them to not get up.

In karate, judo, bjj, TKD, etc..., it's an opponent, so you want to remain in control and always have a balance of peace and aggression.

A better idea is this. If aggression = darkness and peace = light, for there to be peace, there must be aggression; for there to be aggression, there must be peace.
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It depends who I am practising with - if its younger or older students then I am more relaxed but against our younger fighters I have to be more focussed and on my guard.
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It depends who I am practising with - if its younger or older students then I am more relaxed but against our younger fighters I have to be more focussed and on my guard.
Oh, and what about your OLDER FIGHTERS
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I never thought of that
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I reckon he puts the tea on inbetween our attacks!

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I reckon he puts the tea on inbetween our attacks!

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and cake yes? or biscuits oh I love biscuits (SMACK!) sorry we're we spraring?
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Distract him by commenting on his slippers, then *WHAM* - jodan hiza geri.
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Distract him by commenting on his slippers, then *WHAM* - jodan hiza geri.
And here we have the treachery of youth!

So Nix is the young danger that Bloke has to watch out for, and TMD and I are the the slow moving, ancient surprise.

(I have to soak my biscuits in my tepid tea... )

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And here we have the treachery of youth!

So Nix is the young danger that Bloke has to watch out for, and TMD and I are the the slow moving, ancient surprise.

(I have to soak my biscuits in my tepid tea... )

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I agree about Nix (actually I suspect he is the danger we all have to watch out for but I suspect that TMD Dent and I are all of similiar age.
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I agree about Nix (actually I suspect he is the danger we all have to watch out for but I suspect that TMD Dent and I are all of similiar age.
Not if your claim to a full head of potential hair growth is true!

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41 and still all there (the hair that is - not the mind)
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I can only echo what has been said. I try to be relaxed and focused while fighting, and then try to be explosive when I see the opportunity for it.
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