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Old 07-24-2008, 07:30 AM
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Ooyama Masutatsu documentary ENG subbed
Hello.

I spent several hours subbing this documentary to the best of my abilities.
I found the same doco on youtube but that one is not subbed, hopefully you guys can understand this one.

/watch?v=0Up2Jt_ErIc <--- just paste this to the end of youtube.com

Note that Oyama is mainly referred to as Choi Bae Dal his Korean name, as this was the main name the doco referred to him as.

Additional notes:
- The subtitle is about 95% correct. There ARE some little mistakes.
- I do not endorse any of the contents of this video.
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Old 07-24-2008, 07:51 AM
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Thanks alot for all your hard work!
I was wondering, what are the little mistakes?
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Thank you very much for uploading this whole documentary of sosai!, I really enjoyed it. Thanks for your effort!
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Old 07-24-2008, 06:42 PM
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This is fantastic. Thank you so much!
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Nice work. Thank you.

I've seen parts of this KBS documentary but it was nice to see the whole thing and since I don't speak any Korean, it was nice to see the subtitles too although hard to read at times. There was so much to learn from Sosai's life. I think this documentary focuses a little too much on the citizenship and naturalization issue, but I guess that is to be expected from a KBS production. Interesting to see film of his kids in Korea. Also if the director of Fighter in Wind did so much research on Sosai's life, why did he make such a historically inaccurate film??

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I want to personally thank you hsphouse for subbing that documentary. I know the time and effort it takes to do something like that. Much respect.

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Old 07-27-2008, 02:01 PM
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very interesting documentary. with matsui being of korean decent and being a very young person who became oyama's succesor. do you guys think that caused polical turmoil in the organization? after he became kancho, different groups started leaving.
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I want to personally thank you hsphouse for subbing that documentary. I know the time and effort it takes to do something like that. Much respect.

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And a second to that. Great job, facinating documentary. Thanks.

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Note to ALL:

No discussion of Karate politics, please. This is a broad request. Take the time to think about what answers your posts may bring, and how that could be interpreted by others.

This is our most sensitive issue, and one that we hope all will respect.

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Thank you so much for the gift of these videos. It must have taken much of your time, and dedication to put all of that together! I appreciate it all.
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"No discussion of Karate politics, please. This is a broad request. Take the time to think about what answers your posts may bring, and how that could be interpreted by others."


Sorry

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This documentary made me think: was Oyama Sosai really that plagued about the decision of his citizenship? If he was would he or would he not be considered a sell out for deciding to be come Japanese? Did Sosai really think that highly of taekwondo (granted it was completely different than it is now)? How can someone be considered a non-smoker when in actuality he should be considered an occasional smoker? How can a man who himself said he frequented bars when he was younger (and even killed a man in a drunken rage once) be called a man who shunned alcohol? Did South Korea want so desperately to have Oyama be considered a Korean because of the resentment Korea has for Japan? Why didn't any of Sosai's sons take up karate?

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No one may truly know the answers to your questions.
This documentary is korean, and there may defintely be some intentional or unintentional false information by the production team because Korea and Japan are no doubt rivals. Remember, this is a point of view from the KBS production group. Therefore, some information in this doc is bound to be subjective.

One translation mistake I found:
I think they said Kancho Matsui is of Korean descent, a 2nd gen Korean in Japan.

I subtitled: Matsui had a korean birth certificate <--- please disregard this.
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One translation mistake I found:
I think they said Kancho Matsui is of Korean descent, a 2nd gen Korean in Japan.

I subtitled: Matsui had a korean birth certificate <--- please disregard this.
Thank you for your clarification, and all your hard work. You deserve some rep!

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No problem. Please feel free to close this thread if it starts to become an issue with some of the 'sensitive' things.

I only translated and put this up on youtube NOT because I support any contents of this video, but because I wanted to share one documentary that members of this forum may watch and enjoy.
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I appreciate your even approach, and care for the members.

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Thank you so much for taking the time to upload and translate this video!

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