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Old 09-02-2008, 11:14 PM
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I'm getting ready for my next belt test in December. Going for 4th Kyu.

Any suggestions on how to get ready?

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Practice!

Do you have an idea of what they are looking for on this test?


Know your Katas. Work on your endurance. Kumite fighting is tough on the body so make sure you have the gas for it. Eat a banana 30 minutes before the test.

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Study the grading sylabus and do a bit more, ie learn a bit above your grade if you can. Improve stamina, running skipping etc. It's good that theres a large window to prepare between now and December.
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My main concern is kumite. They won't tell me how many I will have to do, but it will be in the test. Due to work (and political issues with the Sensei), I stopped practicing kyokushin for about 5 yrs. And now, my stamina is in the ground. I know I have more than plenty of time to get it back.

So, any tips on improving my endurance for the kumite? Like I said, this is what concerns me the most.

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from what i heard flap jacks are the best and sprring and bags
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For endurance I would do Burpee's and Bag work. That helped me alot!!

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what are flap jacks?
Burpees is a very good idea... how about wind sprints?
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Stop asking a group of people on a forum and ask your Sensei... He/she is the only one who can [and should] help you be ready!!!
We can't come close to help with out knowing you, the dojo, the sensei...
Focus on what is going on in the dojo not outside of it.

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I was just asking for tips to complement my training in the dojo. You don't want to help, that's fine, you don't have to diss me.

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all the best with the grading. If i may, i dont think Spirit is dissing you, Sensei is just straight with words. All the best.
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I was just asking for tips to complement my training in the dojo. You don't want to help, that's fine, you don't have to diss me.

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He's not dissing you, you're asking a very broad question. Obviously, any type of excercise is better than none at getting ready but I'm not your instructor, I don't know where you're at in terms of skill, endurance, etc.
Sure, wind sprints and burpees are good, they're not going to be bad for you...a proper diet and so on but ask your sensei what he/she thinks.
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I subscribe with Spirit on this : I see people all the time asking very basic questions on the forum, questions that need to be addressed in the dojo. The message board will not replace your sensei, you need to trust him and listen to him.

Let's assume that a race car driver is asking the spectators what to do in the race, and not his crew leader and mechanics .
Go and be part of your dojo and do what you are being asked .
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Stop asking a group of people on a forum and ask your Sensei... He/she is the only one who can [and should] help you be ready!!!
We can't come close to help with out knowing you, the dojo, the sensei...
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I subscribe with Spirit on this : I see people all the time asking very basic questions on the forum, questions that need to be addressed in the dojo. The message board will not replace your sensei, you need to trust him and listen to him.

Let's assume that a race car driver is asking the spectators what to do in the race, and not his crew leader and mechanics .
Go and be part of your dojo and do what you are being asked .

I dont agree, asking questions is what this forum is for, if those questions be basic or advanced, there should be room for them time and time again... The forum doesnt replace the sensei in the dojo (i fully agree on that) but the forum is a place to share our idea`s on all matters, questions are just a way of participating here. Though the sensei in the dojo should get the benefit of the doubt (in all case`s) we have had moments that we all agreed upon the fact that a certain instructor wasnt doing his job or worse.

But the term "ask your sensei" doesnt apply to everything, i think the question was a valid one, though if searched better in the old posts on the forum, amokbel could have found several threads already covering his question.

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He was asking how to prepare for the test .
The testing will be conducted by his sensei .
Of course we can always say the usuals, go and run and do conditioning and stuff like that, but how should I know what he needs, after him the only person who should know best is probably his sensei.
There is nothing wrong to ask on the forum, but some people are looking for miracle answers or solutions here.
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I was just asking for tips to complement my training in the dojo. You don't want to help, that's fine, you don't have to diss me.

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osu amokbel! i think spirit is trying to help by saying you should have better communication with your sensei which helps him/her to help you.

my advise would be...if you train twice a week up it to three..or if three up it to four.......plus any stamina training[in your own time will help]

i hope it goes well for you!
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I was just asking for tips to complement my training in the dojo. You don't want to help, that's fine, you don't have to diss me.OSU
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Ksan does have a valid point which I whole heartedly agree with to a point.
This type of question has no place on a forum. We can in no part assist a person in any way. We have no idea on what, how etc the dojo is doing or in what direction the student is being taken . We have no clue as to the persons size, shape, condition, skill etc.
We to quickly assume that they are like you and are equal to you and everything is equal.
To often we are to quick to voice our opinions, that can be directionally incorrect.

amokbel No, you where asking to let everyone know that you are testing....

Forums [for the vast majority of posters] is a place to talk to people who you do not know and be able to talk about things oh so often others [your friends and family] are to bored or no long wish to listen to.

Not to say that their are a FEW good questions and double good answers. But for the most part most question and answers are a waist of time and lost of life minutes reading them.

PS don't ask the question if you can't hand the answer, no matter how it is answered.

I still stand by the fact that no one should be asking outside the dojo how to do this or that on things like testing or kata, since it is a controlled thing per dojo and so often the incorrect answers are give yet taken as fact or truth. And the sad thing they come from those with far less experience than the Sensei the person is training under and paying.

One should stop paying for lessons and the K4L members can start promoting via the forum based on questions and a written test.
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Osu!

I disagree.

I remember one famous Sensei telling me how he never bothered talking to his students until they got to green belt .... Members of that sort of dojo might feel uncomfortable asking their instructor (who is busy polishing his pedestal) so chatting online is the 'modern' way.

If anyone has a question - fire away. Anyone who can't or won't answer, or feels it unwise to do so (or beneath them) can simply ignore the question.

Anyone who wants to share their experience and advice is free to answer and discuss. That's how forums work. Friendships grow and lessons are shared. Everyone involved benefits.

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A forum can never replace a sensei, but it is still a vast ressource for answers. The sensei is never all-knowing (although it is traditionally assumed that he is). The sensei's opinion on technique etc. will always supersede the advice given on a forum, obviously as he will most probably grade you. That beeing said, we do after all have several thousand years of experience between us, and one might have a brilliant tip or trick to make the training easier or better. More information is better. If for nothing else, then a forum is excellent for encouraging and willingness to discuss, congratulations to those who pass, consolation for those who did not.

As for amokbel, I suggest you find a few mates or two to practice with you. Do a few rounds of kumite, bagwork/padwork, bodyconditioning, etc.

Good luck with it!

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My main concern is kumite. They won't tell me how many I will have to do, but it will be in the test. Due to work (and political issues with the Sensei), I stopped practicing kyokushin for about 5 yrs. And now, my stamina is in the ground. I know I have more than plenty of time to get it back.

So, any tips on improving my endurance for the kumite? Like I said, this is what concerns me the most.

Thanks!

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Osu! To all who think that this is a stupid, unguided question that should only be answered by the Sensei my two cents:

This is how I read the above "I need more stamina as I 'm gonna have to do some more fighting and this is what bothers me"

Are you telling me we can't give advice on this? Plenty of conditioning work, sparing most of all and and plenty of bag work. Ask those who did the last grade at the same level how many fights they had to do, I can't imagine for 4th Kyu that it'll be many.

As an engineer who has had many guys screw things up through inexperience and not asking the right questions there is no such thing as a stupid question - so long as you still use your own common sense to work out if you're received the right answer.
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Wow! This is quite a debate for what seemed - to me - to be a very simple question.

I do agree with Spirit, that yes, an online forum is by no means a way to replace a Sensei. Maybe the problem here was that I wasn't specific enough in my question and that is indeed, my fault.

Like any engineer, fitness guru, expert in any field, is it indeed difficult to answer a questions with little to no background information, and with that I completely agree. I am a consultant myself and I also get frustrated when clients are looking for the "quick answer" without divulging much information.

so, here it goes...

My situation is kind of strange. We are a very small dojo with 4 students and 2 black belts. I, myself, am fairly knowledgeable in terms of fitness, but I just don't know how to apply it to martial arts or karate for that matter. I used to train in a separate dojo in a different country like 5 or 6 years ago. Now, in this new town, I found this one and unique dojo.

Note: I'm the highest "grade" in the dojo. After me is a Nidan and then the Sensei. Yeah, we're a small group.

The main Sensei is a 4th Dan and I indeed asked her what I should do to increase stamina. She said "run". Personally, I don't think that running is very representative of kumite. So, I asked another Sensei as well as the Shihan and all they said was "don't worry about it."

Now, don't get me wrong, I mean no disrespect, but at the time, they didn't seem to interested to answer me and my gut feel says that they didn't know how and what to answer me.

Sidenote: we only train once a week because the dojo is under renovation. So we are training in a park. We are looking for ways to train twice or 3 times a week. My Sensei understands that I am "concerned" about my stamina and that I want to learn and train more.

But until that issue is solved, I am going to complement my training with resistance training. I'm just not 100% sure what to do in terms of cardio. My stamina has ALWAYS sucked.

For those who answered me already, you gave me very good ideas and I plan to integrate them into my training. I am not looking for a miracle solution, but if there is a method that you found in your own training or with your students that worked better than others, I would appreciate it if you'd let me know. If you can also suggest some routines that I use, I'd like to know them too, please.

I personally see this forum as a way to share knowledge and create a community and friendships between Kyokushin practitioners all over the world. I hope I'm not wrong.

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