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Old 05-08-2008, 12:08 AM
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IKO1 Sokugi Taikyoku Ichi?
What is the correct version of this kata?

I was taught it with Mae Giri.

This one On Youtube has a different kick.

YouTube - Sokugi Taikyoku sono Ichi Kyokushinkai kata

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Old 05-08-2008, 12:32 AM
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Osu! We were doing Kata today in class.

Sokugi Taikyoku Sono Ichi - Mae Keage
Sokugi Taikyoku Sono Ni - Mae Geri
Sokugi Taikyoku Sono San - Uchi Mawashi, Soto Mawashi
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Osu!

I concur with Sokaiya. That's the official IKO1 version.

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Weird.

I looked online and it seems that some do Mae Giri and some Mae Kaege and then fliped to Ni and Vice Versa!?

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Yep agree with sokaiya and Dent, was taught the same way too.
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What about the kicks to the sides.
I was taught the keage/geri/soto&uci progression.
We were also taught kansetsu geri for sono ichi, and yoko geri for ni & san.
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Yes good point seienchin! The side ones were taught the same way.
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Osu! Seienchin,

I think you're correct. I do admit to trying to have three different levels on the Yoko Geri, just to work those muscles a bit more. Not being as flexible as in my youth, I think every opportunity needs to be taken on side kicks. (That said, mine are more of a low, slightly less low, and not quite as low. )

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Osu! I agree with sokaiya and seienchin on the kicks. The only additional bit is that when you make the cross the left arm is in front of the right arm when you turn left, and right arm is in front of the left arm when you turn right.
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Osu! I agree with sokaiya and seienchin on the kicks. The only additional bit is that when you make the cross the left arm is in front of the right arm when you turn left, and right arm is in front of the left arm when you turn right.
Is that right? Good to know! Thank you. Osu!
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Is that right? Good to know! Thank you. Osu!
Yes, quite sure of it. The other place you see this is in Pinan Sono Yon when you make the cross, mae geri, and double punch. Osu!
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Yes, quite sure of it. The other place you see this is in Pinan Sono Yon when you make the cross, mae geri, and double punch. Osu!
Yeah, I'm keen on these little details these days. I'm striving for that technical perfection in the Kihon and Kata so I'd LOOOVE to hear anymore of these if you have. I'll soak it right up like a sponge. =] Osu! Thank you again!
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I got some videos from the LA Kyokushin Dojo and they are from IKO1 I think Pre-IKO1 though. They have the Sokugi Taikyoko Sono Ichi with the Mae Giri. Now was that Kata somehow changed since I am guessing the early 1990's?
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I found this version.

This is the same way the one from the LA Dojo(Hamamoto) Videos have it.

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We have Sokugi Taikyoku sono ichi, ni, san, yon, go (5 sokugi Kata!)
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I got some videos from the LA Kyokushin Dojo and they are from IKO1 I think Pre-IKO1 though. They have the Sokugi Taikyoko Sono Ichi with the Mae Giri. Now was that Kata somehow changed since I am guessing the early 1990's?
As I understand it the sokugi katas are relatively new and are Kyokushin originals. It is possible that ichi and ni got flip flopped, the standards are always changing, but the IKO1 standard today is as described above.

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We have Sokugi Taikyoku sono ichi, ni, san, yon, go (5 sokugi Kata!)
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I'd be interested to know what yon and go look like...
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Sokugi Taikyoku sono Yon:

Fudo dachi
Left: Yoko geri jodan (kakiwake uke, zen kutsu dachi), mawashi geri jodan
Right: Yoko geri jodan, mawashi geri jodan
Front: Yoko geri jodan, ushiro mawshi geri (sankai)
Right: Yoko geri jodan, mawashi geri jodan
Left: Yoko geri jodan, mawashi geri jodan
Back: Yoko geri jodan, ushiro mawshi geri (sankai)
Right: Yoko geri jodan, mawashi geri jodan
Left: Yoko geri jodan, mawashi geri jodan
Fudo dachi


Sokugi Taikyoku sono Go:

Fudo dachi
Left: Yoko geri jodan (kakiwake uke, zen kutsu dachi), Mae tobi geri with the back leg
Right: Yoko geri jodan, mawashi geri jodan
Front: Yoko geri jodan, ushiro tobi geri geri (sankai)
Right: Yoko geri jodan, mae tobi geri jodan
Left: Yoko geri jodan, mawashi geri jodan
Back: Yoko geri jodan, ushiro tobi geri (sankai)
Right: Yoko geri jodan, mae tobi geri jodan
Left: Yoko geri jodan, mawashi geri jodan
Fudo dachi
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Cool - thanks for posting this - I had the same question myself!!!
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Osu Seieshin,
In sokugi taikykuko sono go, the lateral movements are always: Yoko geri jodan (kakiwake uke, zen kutsu dachi), Mae tobi geri with the back leg.
Sorry about that...
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