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[Groucho]

Originally Posted by Sonik

Well if that's true i guess a lot guys such as Remy Bonjasky, Badr Hari or Peter Aerts could become sandan or godan very easily in Seido Karate. No need to learn Karate basics, just be a professional Kickboxer with a good record in K-1 and you're a Seido Karate sandan in the moment! It's a nice way to atracct some fighters. See if they represent Seido like Semmy Schilt. To me that gives a bad image of Karate. It's like buying football players to represent your club even though they were trained by another during their all life.

not to be overly picky, but it's Seido-Kaikan...totally different animal from Seido...

[Sonik]

I know. I was referring to Seido Kaikan. You thought i was talking about Seido Juku (Tadashi Nakamura) perhaps. No?

[nangoushuujin]

There are many K-1 fighters with grades in Seidokaikan.

Sam Grecco definitelty was graded highly in seidokaikan and was promoting it in Australia for some time. Dont know if he still is doing that.

I remember seeing one of those mini documentaries they have on before the K-1 finals. In that documentary Le-Banner said that he trained in judo and Karate as a boy but stopped Judo because the judging was too subjective. He preferred kickboxing so he could knock out his opponets. Therefore no need to worry about judges decision.

I dont think he is a serious K-1 contender anymore. But he has power in those hands and bangs in those gedan mawashi geri's with power.

Osu

[goldberg2310]

osu,

if jerome would be in kyokushin anybody would know this...

[sublimo]

Finally! I know what he jelled! This is for Ichi! Osu!

[Sonik]

Originally Posted by nangoushuujin

There are many K-1 fighters with grades in Seidokaikan.

Sam Grecco definitelty was graded highly in seidokaikan and was promoting it in Australia for some time. Dont know if he still is doing that.

I remember seeing one of those mini documentaries they have on before the K-1 finals. In that documentary Le-Banner said that he trained in judo and Karate as a boy but stopped Judo because the judging was too subjective. He preferred kickboxing so he could knock out his opponets. Therefore no need to worry about judges decision.

I dont think he is a serious K-1 contender anymore. But he has power in those hands and bangs in those gedan mawashi geri's with power.

Osu

Sam Greco was a Kyokushin Karate fighter before joining the Seido Kaikan. Karate was his main weapon. Jerome's main background is Kickboxing not Karate. It's a different situation.

By the way he's still a serious contender. Not the main one if you count Schilt of course but he's next to Peter Aerts in my book. This is how i rank the fighters at the moment:

1-Schilt
2-Aerts
3-LeBanner
4-Bonjasky
5-Sefo
6-Feitosa
7-Hari
8-Manhoef
9-Leko
10-Karaev


I'm not counting here some veterans such as Filho, Ignashov or Greco since they've become unnactive for a while. I hope to see these guy sback in K-1 at least for a few more fights. Mirko and Hunt would be nice to see returning as well.


i also hope that Pitchkonov gains enough experience to reach the top 10. He has been doing ok but has to improve much more. He did better than i expected against Mo even though he lost by TKO. And the fight against Vinney was a shame. It looked like he was uncomfortable with the fact Vinney was his training partner. Maybe he respects him too much . I don't know. He has to be more agressive.

Finally now that Teixeira won the WT, i hope even more to see him in K-1. But his participation should be well managed. Geting some japanese opponents first. Fighters like Shingo Koyasu, Tsuyoshi Nakasako, Taiei Kin, Tatsufumi Tomihira or even Sawayashiki would be a good primary test depending on his K-1 skills. If he has been training Boxing and Kickboxing as i've been told he should be minimumly prepared for the challenge.

Lechi Kurbanov would also be interesting to watch but he better work that guard. He keeps his hands too low. He can't be so relaxed in K-1, and that KO in the WT, was just a warning.

[Shamo]

I believe that officially (in K-1's rankings) Le Banner is third and Feitosa Fourth, so the man's still up there, I mean, he still defines the top fighters of K-1.