World Combat League

[MilkManX]

I meant no offence about MMA. I like to watch MMA.(latley WEC) I just notice for the most part that MMA seems to not value humility.

I am sorry if my observations offended you sir.

[JohnMc]

Originally Posted by MilkManX

I meant no offence about MMA. I like to watch MMA.(latley WEC) I just notice for the most part that MMA seems to not value humility.

I am sorry if my observations offended you sir.

Wasn't offended at all but seeing the traditional MA'ists bashing MMA can get very annoying after awhile. Especially when they are very belligerant about it. Joe Corley, Manny reyes Jr., Pops Krasnoo went onto MMA boards an trashed MMA to prop up their kickboxing leagues. I'll be nice and say they didn't make too many friends there.

[schuyler]

I agree whole heartedly with JohnMc about TMA folks bashing MMA every chance they get. It doesn't seem to happen on K4L, in fact there are a lot of posts talking up MMA fighters (especially those who train Kyokushin!). Boards like Bullshido which trash TMA (except BJJ which I guess they don't realize is a TMA) are promoting disunity between people that only train one MA and those that train MMA. Even though I posted earlier in this thread that I don't like the WCL, I still relish in the fact that I can turn on my TV and find some sort of MA programming on pretty much all day long.

[JohnMc]

Originally Posted by schuyler

I agree whole heartedly with JohnMc about TMA folks bashing MMA every chance they get.

Thanks schuyler. The TMA folks are very hypocritical when it comes to MMA. They trash MMA people alot more than MMA people trash them.

[shinobijesus]

Originally Posted by JohnMc

Thanks schuyler. The TMA folks are very hypocritical when it comes to MMA. They trash MMA people alot more than MMA people trash them.

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[shinobijesus]

Originally Posted by schuyler

Boards like Bullshido which trash TMA (except BJJ which I guess they don't realize is a TMA) are promoting disunity between people that only train one MA and those that train MMA.

you would count bjj as a traditional style? ive always noted traditional styles as the ones with guiding principles or codes of conduct. theres no such discipline in mma. pretty much every mma guy ive met thinks nothing of fighting (or in the case of bjj - "rolling") outside the gym. at the same time ive only trained traditionally and every style ive done has discouraged or forbade fighting outside the dojo.

go to a place and learn to be a better person = traditional

go to a place and learn to beat on people = mma

[powerof0ne]

Originally Posted by tmd

Notice one of the teams is called PowerofOne - is this our very own??? Seems like a really interesting concept and glad it's getting some air time would be great to see it in on UK TV. I understand it has a few American isms which we find a little hard to conceive over here like the team thing but just great to see any form of MA getting a new generation interested in the MA's.

One interesting thing that I think comes across from the US is that there is many more sports it is possible to become professional in and gain endorsements or scholarships to pursue - in the UK and I think the rest of Europe it's only the elite of a very selective number of sports that get any funding and then it came be silly numbers basically if you ain't on Sky sports you're not very likely to get any help. The strongest man in the UK used to come to my Gym sometimes to train and he was an electricians mate - the US based guys he was up against in the Worlds Strongest Man were on 6 figure deals. Not bitching just observing.

haha, I just noticed your post! No, not me, wish I could say so. My name is from one of my favorite books, "The Power of One".
I myself am not a fan of the WCL but have a lot of respect for Chuck Norris and his accomplishments.

[Deaken]

Hi,

I saw WCL this weekend for the first time. I thought that it would be more like K1, but it looked like standard kickboxing. I almost found it dull to watch. Anyone else feel this way?

[powerof0ne]

Originally Posted by Deaken

Hi,

I saw WCL this weekend for the first time. I thought that it would be more like K1, but it looked like standard kickboxing. I almost found it dull to watch. Anyone else feel this way?

Yes, the finding it dull to watch part. I get the feeling it's a lot of talented k-1/muay thai stylists trying to do something close to 70s style above the waist kickboxing. I have noticed that some of the hands on the fighters is pretty damn good but they seem to be holding back in fear of getting DQ'd due to the rules. The rules definitely dictate the boring matches you're watching.

[shinobijesus]

Originally Posted by Deaken

Hi,

I saw WCL this weekend for the first time. I thought that it would be more like K1, but it looked like standard kickboxing. I almost found it dull to watch. Anyone else feel this way?

must not have been the one where the guy walks out and relentlessly axe kicks the other guy until he KOs him.

i admit some of the matches are dull but for the most part i enjoy the fights. even the dull ones because they are at least moving. sometimes in UFC no one takes the initiative so you sit there for a full 15 minutes wondering why youre watching...

[Dent]

Osu!

Originally Posted by Deaken

Hi,

I saw WCL this weekend for the first time. I thought that it would be more like K1, but it looked like standard kickboxing. I almost found it dull to watch. Anyone else feel this way?

Yes, I do. It isn't often I just walk away from Fightsport, but I haven't been able to stay and watch either of the two contests that I saw on TV. I must say that the commentators didn't help things either though.

Again, I see talented fighters, but the format just isn't appealing...

Osu!

[Dark Kyokushin]

this show is pretty kool

[JohnMc]

Originally Posted by shinobijesus

you would count bjj as a traditional style? ive always noted traditional styles as the ones with guiding principles or codes of conduct. theres no such discipline in mma. pretty much every mma guy ive met thinks nothing of fighting (or in the case of bjj - "rolling") outside the gym. at the same time ive only trained traditionally and every style ive done has discouraged or forbade fighting outside the dojo.

go to a place and learn to be a better person = traditional

go to a place and learn to beat on people = mma

You're seeing what you want to see. TMA clubs have just as many thugs as MMA clubs. TMA a guy can have an attitude becasue with sparring being non-existant now they can get away with it. In a MMA [or Boxing, MT, or Modern MA] the attitude can bite you real quick.

[JohnMc]

Originally Posted by Dark Kyokushin

this show is pretty kool

It finally showed up here on The Fight Network. I love all combat sports but I couldn't watch it. It was Point Fighting disguised as Full Contact Kickboxing. They are swinging wildy [What were you purists saying about MMA fighters swinging wildly?]

[MilkManX]

For some reason they havent played WCL on Versus in months. I have no idea how the current season is.

[sandman]

I agree with some of the other posters about the format of WCL maybe not being the best. I don't particularly care for the whole "team" thing in fighting sports. Unless it's team on team, everybody out there at once, the team concept doesn't make any sense. And I think a big 6 on 6 brawl might be a bit much - proabably a few safety concerns with that idea I do however watch the show whenever I have the chance, simply because there just aren't that many opportunities to watch any kind of martial arts on TV, at least where I'm from. Other than WCL the only martial arts - related programming left in my neck of the woods is MMA. I also enjoy watching MMA, but it would be nice to see some traditional stuff. I don't think there will ever be a big enough market for it here, though.

[JohnMc]

Originally Posted by MilkManX

For some reason they havent played WCL on Versus in months. I have no idea how the current season is.

I don't think it started yet. They were having polls on what changes the fans wanted to see.

The problem with WCL is that they need to choose what they are. Either they are a point fighting league or a Full Contact Kickboxing league.