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Old 06-17-2008, 02:34 PM
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Hi Kansetsu,
Actually you had a misconception about the sanda sidekick. It is pretty much similar to a karate side thrust kick except that you "dash in" while executing the kick. You chamber the kicking leg then thrust it out, at the same time, pushing your whole body forward using the supporting leg. It is not like jumping with your supporting leg, it is like you slide on your supporting leg. This way you can impart the whole body weight in to the kick. Much more powerful than normal sidekick and very hard to catch. Trust me because I practise sanda.
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Hi Kansetsu,
Actually you had a misconception about the sanda sidekick. It is pretty much similar to a karate side thrust kick except that you "dash in" while executing the kick. You chamber the kicking leg then thrust it out, at the same time, pushing your whole body forward using the supporting leg. It is not like jumping with your supporting leg, it is like you slide on your supporting leg. This way you can impart the whole body weight in to the kick. Much more powerful than normal sidekick and very hard to catch. Trust me because I practise sanda.
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Yeah, i do that too...the sliding thing...it feels much better to me when i do the slide, instead of standing there in one place.

hhmm...my knowledge of Sanda sidekick is from video demonstrations that i have broken down...sooo, it's pretty limited...lol. But from my view point, Sanda doesn't really draw the leg into the body as much as Karate does....or am i wrong? Thanks for the info...cause i really like your way of sidekicks.

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Actually, how you do the kick really depends on the instructor but most instructors in my country teach like what I wrote. It is because Sanda is more like a compilation of techniques and competition rules rather than a style. There is no "right" way to do a technique.
I have seen the video clip you mentioned. It looked like a pretty weak side kick because when we practise this kick with pad, there is a sharp sound each time you hit the pad correctly and the person holding the pad is pushed back really hard.
I think you should have a look at some Cung Le's fights. His side kick is very effective.

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I'm only 5'6", but I do have pretty long legs as compared to the rest of my body, I think.

Hmmmm..... I want to have access to a variety of body types, and conduct studies of movement related to individual technique. I suspect that some are going to be better at certain techniques based on nothing more than basic genetic factors.

Being in Japan can really question the Caucasian body though. Nothing like clothes shopping, and feeling that things fit funny. And don't get me started on squats.

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Hmmmm..... I want to have access to a variety of body types, and conduct studies of movement related to individual technique. I suspect that some are going to be better at certain techniques based on nothing more than basic genetic factors.

Being in Japan can really question the Caucasian body though. Nothing like clothes shopping, and feeling that things fit funny. And don't get me started on squats.

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you have a 6'1 asian body with decent length legs here if you want Mr. Wheelchair Mod...

Just gotta let me know when...so i can plan...lol

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you have a 6'1 asian body with decent length legs here if you want Mr. Wheelchair Mod...

Just gotta let me know when...so i can plan...lol

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So now he knows height...

Excellent volunteering, Kansetsu. Thank you, I'm going to make use of that.

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Yeah I tend to use it a bit in kumite. I use it mostly off the front foot, mainly to stop someone moving in, I do the same with a front kick. I find a good way to sneak it in is to fake with a low kick(rear leg) to take their attention low then whip the leg up and smack em in the guts. I also tend to use it to set up another technique. Often i'll put the yoko geri out there, even if it is bloked I'm usually able to push em back hen follow through with a low of head kick, close distance and work from there. I think its mainly just a case of practicing it and using it until it works.
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Using Yoko-geri must be hard in full-contact. Since it takes a bit too long to execute, your opponent can predict your move easily. But, Rickson Gracie uses this kick in a quit effective way. When his opponent runs toward him, he uses low side-kick (with his front leg) aiming the opponent's knee cap as a stopping-technique. Gracie says his method is similar to Bruce Lee's. Indeed, Jeet Kun Do applies tons of side-kicks. Many of these side-kicks are executed from distance close to opponent; JKD stylists often utilizes this kick after destroying the opponents' balance by arm techniques. Also, TKD practitioners use them a lot, but TKD is rather point-scoring art, so using side-kick seems less risky.
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In Sanda, we use this kick a lot and Sanda is a full contact art. This kick can not only be used as a stopping technique but also as a true technique aiming to damage your opponents. However, it takes some clever setups to effectively use this kick.
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In Sanda, we use this kick a lot and Sanda is a full contact art. This kick can not only be used as a stopping technique but also as a true technique aiming to damage your opponents. However, it takes some clever setups to effectively use this kick.
You're absolutely right! I completely forgot (or don't really know, to be honest) about side-kicks in Sanda ! I remember the episode of "Fight Quest" in China, and the Chinese fighter was utilizing side-kick very effectively. I noticed the timing in Sanda is very different from the one in Kyokushin. Sanda is my favorite Chinese style.
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throw the side kick when the opponent's body square up (i.e. throw a rear hand punch or kick). also use the side kick to blast into opponent's guard (hit bicep shoulder area) to break down his defense. if hitting elbows when executing yoko geri, use the sole of the foot (in case of a defensive side kick, stopping and a rushing opponent).

set ups for side kick: 1. throw a hook kick and then fake the 2nd one and execute side side kick under his block of the faked hook kick
2. throw round kick (he steps out of range to make you miss). as he rushes in to counter, execute side kick.
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It looks more like a scoop Ushiro Geri to me. Now that kick I do find useful.
what would you call the 2 kicks between 1:30-1:40?
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personally its really hard for me or anyone in our dojo to use yoko-geri. sensei drills us every single day on defense techniques and theres almost never a day that we dont practice a technique that effectively nullifies straight kicks. yoko-geri, mai-geri, if you arent lightning fast with them you wont pull them off at our dojo.

ive always wanted to be good at yoko-geri so i keep trying. hopefully the difficulty involved with utilizing it at our dojo will make me great at it against other people.
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So I landed one a couple of days ago. Pretty decent impact, but still not a great accomplishment. The strikee was slow, and didn't see the set up either.

I'm not sold on it, but I'll keep training...

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Tried it the other day, while fighting one of the girls. I managed to feint a high kick, and then went for a yoko geri against the liver. Only I aimed too high, and hit her right in the boob. Oops. It was effective, though.
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cool glad it worked, yeah Im always a bit uneasy sparring the girls cos its inevitable they will get smaked in the chest at times.
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cool glad it worked, yeah Im always a bit uneasy sparring the girls cos its inevitable they will get smaked in the chest at times.
I find that most women are fully aware that they may get hit, just as we are. They have accepted those risks, and come to train. Treating them as partners is the the best answer for both parties.

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Not wanting to dislodge the thread but I think it's important to note that occasional and accidental is OK but there are those who see them as a legitimate target or can't change there game when sparing with the ladies, if that happens too often you may find yourself carrying you bits home in a new bag.
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Quite right, TMD! If that's happening, I think it's time for the Shark Tank!

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