uchideshi

[Ziyaad]

I've always wonder what the uchideshi student do when they complete all their training? I think that they should fight in professional fighting promotion as they have dedicated their lives to karate.

[Dent]

Osu!

Most become professional instructors, at least for some time. Not all wish to compete professionally. Nor do I think it a good idea for them to do so. If the professional instructors are all about pro fighting, who will teach? And why not just have them do fighter training, instead of the whole syllabus?

Osu!

[Ziyaad]

Do they earn a good living by teaching?
I agree with u but I think that there should be some fighters who represent kyokushin at pro level so as to show kyokushin supremacy.

[Dent]

Osu!

Originally Posted by Ziyaad

Do they earn a good living by teaching?
I agree with u but I think that there should be some fighters who represent kyokushin at pro level so as to show kyokushin supremacy.

Some do well, some go hungry. It's that same for everyone.

Do you think that the fighters and the teachers should be the same people? Don't you feel that the many Kyokushin fighters are trying to represent themselves as well as their training?

And I must say it again, no one style can be supreme. Only one person at a time can be the champion of an event, and I believe that it depends on the person more than the style.

Osu!

[Ziyaad]

I fully agree with u on the matter of supremacy. But do u think that what the mma fighters are doing nowadays are following the martial spirit. This is why I think we need some traditional fighters who would kick their ass.

[Dent]

Osu!

Originally Posted by Ziyaad

I fully agree with u on the matter of supremacy. But do u think that what the mma fighters are doing nowadays are following the martial spirit. This is why I think we need some traditional fighters who would kick their ass.

Is kicking their ass the martial spirit? If we train, and improve as individuals, and we try to help others, I think we will be a better example than just seeing who can kick each other below the rear belt line...

Most people already know the value of training for fighting, but how many know it's value as a means of character development?

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[Bloke]

Originally Posted by Dent

Most people already know the value of training for fighting, but how many know it's value as a means of character development?

And that sentence sums up at least part of the struggle I have as an Instructor - thanks Dent.

[Dent]

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Originally Posted by Bloke

And that sentence sums up at least part of the struggle I have as an Instructor - thanks Dent.

Most welcome, Bloke. It's a tough one to get people to grasp. Although I only have a small training group, we've started doing odd service projects.

This week we're getting materials to Habitat for Humanity, and then this weekend we're helping a family with cleaning out their barn. Small things, but I'd like our folk to associate training with social responsibility, and in turn for them to be associated with positive action in the community.

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[ksan]

Originally Posted by Dent

I'd like our folk to associate training with social responsibility, and in turn for them to be associated with positive action in the community

Didnt sosai adress this subject in his speeches about filialpiety ?

[Dent]

Osu!

Originally Posted by ksan

Didnt sosai adress this subject in his speeches about filialpiety ?

I interpreted it a little differently, more along the lines of the Dojo being the primary focus of responsibility. What I have seen is that most rush to class, only to arrive just in time to change, train, then disappear.

They take no role in the Dojo, put in no additional effort, then they are surprised when their progress is slow.

My own take on social responsibility is more twofold. Firstly, I want members who think of more than just themselves. Secondly, I want to counter some of the negative image that the public has of Karate. If we are going to claim character development, we better show some.

Osu!