What's that style called?

[Aunty Ichigeki]

This may be a very silly question. Is there an existing school (I mean style) that teaches Kyokushin style fighting as well as takedowns (shooting etc) & ground fighting? If there is, what do they call it. And if there isn't... any good ideas for what it could/should be called?

We're not thinking of opening a school but are keen to include fights this style in our events and don't know what to call it!

[Azimuth]

They call it the triathlon of martial arts and they do it in Shidokan Tournaments .
Or is this a silly answer ? ; )

I also saw some Jiu Jitsu Tournaments with a similar approach .
Start with stand- up fighting than shoot and grapple .


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[ksan]

Osu Aunty Ichigeki,

I think Azimuth is right, it is (or was) gig in France,... here is a link.



http://www.shidokan.com/


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[ojgsxr6]

They're are multiple kyokushin off shoots that do this. Shidokan as was previously mentioned but also Daido Juku/Kudo, Jon Bluming's Kyokushin Budo Kai

[Aunty Ichigeki]

Yeah not quite Shidokan or Daidojuku because I mean eliminating the headpunching. Maybe it is Kyokushin Budo Kai? I'll have to dig out Shihan Bluming's rules.

So yes Azimuth, it was a silly answer ;-)

[Sonik]

Shidokan Karate have tournaments where no facial punching is allowed but grappling is. They have different rules for different rounds. Round 1 is regular Kyokushin rules + clinching and grappling. Round 2 Kickboxing and Round 3 MMA.


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[Azimuth]

In the Shidokan event i was invited for last weekend they fought like in a regular full contact karate way with that difference that there was a 5 sec rule included . The fighters could bring the opponents to the floor and grapple but only for a max of 5 seconds . This was to my humble opinion a nice way of making it attractive to the public .
Punches to the face NOT allowed .
(Check out my pic with shihan Soeno ( son of ...) in the gallery )

[Aunty Ichigeki]

Awesome. I like that idea... wouldn't get much achieved on the ground I guess but it would impact the standup a lot. I retract the silly comment.

[Azimuth]

They showed some amazing fast armlocks and chokes , the things you can do in a 5 sec count .
Each ref made that count in a loud and clear way before they had to break up and get back to fighting position .
I was pleasantly surprised ; )

[ksan]

Originally Posted by Aunty Ichigeki

Yeah not quite Shidokan or Daidojuku because I mean eliminating the headpunching. Maybe it is Kyokushin Budo Kai? I'll have to dig out Shihan Bluming's rules.

So yes Azimuth, it was a silly answer ;-)

Bluming doesnt do that specifically,... his "own" invention is kinda what kyokushinkan is doing now with the big head gear on and face punching + takedowns and locks/strangelations on the floor, but i havent seen it done inside the bluming organisation and i live in his home country... rest off the bluming organisation does kyokushin style fighting like we see in the other organisations (standard kyokushin), maybe a little more splitsecond grabbing action allowed but 99% the same as IKO rules.

Shidokan does the three formats in 1 match..... plus you can addapt...
Round: 1) Kyokushin 2) Kickboxing 3) MMA
or 1) Kyokushin 2) Kickboxing 3) kyokushin (again)

There are many possibilities,


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Ksan