Kids shouldn't be in MMA?

[sublimo]

If I have kids I will not like to leave them alone with MMA kids... That’s for sure...
Kids play, fight, wrestle but sometimes don t know the limit....

YouTube - 8 yr old MMA kid --> I don t want to leave my kid with him!

http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=NhYvw4wB6k0&NR=1 --> imagine that one off them can grapple and submit... Anyway, I love girlfights!

YouTube - Kids MMA fight! ---> well...

MMA to kids?? To dangerous in my opinion! I give kyokushin lessons to kids 6-11 years I relise it s dangerous to. It have to be guided very careful...

[Dent]

Osu!

And here's where the rules come in. I'm totally against their fighting without headgear!

What worries me about the nebulous laws that will almost certainly be passed (If we don't stay aware), is that a Dojo that offers Judo and Karate could easily be lumped in with the backstreet fight clubs.

As far as the kids as individuals? I'd rather my kids hang out with disciplined and motivated kids than with a washout. I've trained since I was a kid, and while I can't claim a halo and a couple of wings, at least I was active.

Osu!

[hasbeen]

i`m against any kid fighting in a cage full stop. the thought of one kid holding another one down and bashing him with people watching just sickens me.

there is a big difference between the discipline of a high class dojo,irrelavent of style to the casual training in a gym. unfortunately like dog fighting there is always going to be people wanting to take part or watch.

i am not against mma, i might of tried it myself 25 years ago and i do watch sometimes but these are adults with their own mind fighting for their own reasons.

if a kid wanted to get involved in a form of mma training under strict dojo like supervision and discipline i would not be against that but there must be an age limit for full on fighting in a cage[ in my opinion]

[Dent]

Osu! Hasbeen,

I was able to follow more of those links, and find myself more and more in agreement with you. Some of the matchups are very skewed, and kids are getting hurt. Not even remotely cool.

So I say yes to training, and Dojo fighting, and no to outside competition until they are at least 16.

Great topic though, as it provided me with the opportunity to further investigate my own position.

Thanks to All

Osu!

[jcc]

This is where ´art´ and ´thuggery´ take diverging paths... Training kids to fight like that without putting strict ethical boundries can only end in tears

[BiiggDDD]

To me they can never stop the Martial Arts or MMA. Politicians have a tendency to "Say" alot of things, but it never really happens.

As for the kids in MMA, I find it wrong but what can you do? Its not their fault, but their parents.

Remember back when you first started MA and what inspired you, If you were born a while back im pretty sure Bruce Lee, had a major impact on alot of us to start MA.
I was born in 1990, so my role model for starting martial arts was Jean Claude Van Damme and his movies. Today's kids have Chuck Liddle, Rampage Jackson, Mirko Crocop, The Shamrocks, and many, many others in there society today with television, ads, and other things.

Is it there fault ? To me NO, let the kids learn the MA or MMA, let them have an experience of one another, but with protections, dont take it to far with them Their only kids, there maturity and wisdom grows over time and so do the changes in their mind. IF the child grows into a man and likes MMA, then he can choose to go further, if he doesn't then he can stop.

[jcc]

Osu! BiiggDDD,

Some good points - politicians do tend to mouth off, especially if they think it might win votes. And parents, above all, are responsible for their kids, which just goes to show how many irresponsible adults there are out there!

Osu!

[vapor]

It goes back to the saying that it takes training and a license to drive a car, own a gun, or even handle certain kinds of chemicals....but ANYONE can become a parent if they figure out how the anatomy works!

The responsibilty does lie with parents to raise children properly...but sometimes you have to take the scissors out of the hand of someone who is ready to go running down the hall...it is unfortunate that parents in these tyoe of occasions use their children as a pawn in fufilling some sort of dream that they themselves never had the courage to pursue.

vapor

[Dent]

Osu!

Originally Posted by vapor

The responsibilty does lie with parents to raise children properly...but sometimes you have to take the scissors out of the hand of someone who is ready to go running down the hall...it is unfortunate that parents in these tyoe of occasions use their children as a pawn in fufilling some sort of dream that they themselves never had the courage to pursue.

Yes, and these parents are ever present. I am the assistant coach for my son's soccer team, and the coach of my daughter's team. Working with the parents, I have observed that those parents who are active in a sport of their own are far better adjusted to the play of their children than those who are not.

Given some of the looks I've seen when I suggest that these parents/ sideline athletes suit up and join us for practice, I may not be too in touch with reality either.

Osu!

[Sonik]

It's funny how some politics can be so hypocrit. I think it's more dangerous to legalize weapons trade than having kids doing MMA, but that's just me.

The USA, along with China, Russia and other powerfull countries are responsable for selling weapons to lots of third world countries, hence they're contributing to the death of thousands of people every year. However, they will easily argument that's a matter of political, economic and military balance. The fact is, while we're playing games, lots of people in these poor countries are dying at our costs.

I really hope that developed countries begin to change their internal and external policies, but before that, they need to revise and analyse themselves carefully. I think it's time for a new spiritual revolution in the all world and Kyokushin Karate could and should be one of the mains sources of inspiration to make it happen.


Osu!



Ps: Do i sound too much idealistic?

[Dent]

Osu! Sonik,

You'd get no argument from me! State sponsored genocide at home and abroad makes our punching and kicking seem very tame. Legislation that may ban the MA while gun violence is all around us borders on insanity.

All that said, I'm not foolish enough to suggest that we should let kids fight full-on. I'd like to think that a thinking society would self-police, and forbid these activities through public pressure, and not legislation.

How's that for idealism?

Osu!