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Old 08-21-2007, 11:41 AM
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eating from 3 in 3 hours
everybody. I've saw on tv or some anotherplace that eating from 3 in 3 hours is really good because keeps your metabolism high and all these things... I'm following it and I must say that I'm felling really great. I used to have a problem, a food problem: I never liked candies but i always LOVE food, by saying food i mean rice, bean, meat and such... And i've got a lot fat for don't know control it, after a surgery i'm eating just a bit, and now i've started this 3-in-3 hours, now, have everyone ever did this or know if it really is good?

ps.: Of course I eat healthy and light things in every meal, it don't get any effect if you eat 4000 calories in every meal hehe

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May I ask what "eating from 3 in 3 hours" is? What's a cirurgy?

One tip that I would give you to lose excess weight is to NEVER eat carbs after 5pm.
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Osu Satori, well as i said when i've joined the forum, my english ain't perfect (far from it)sorry my mistakes.

it's surgery, my bad...
eatin from 3 in 3 hours, i really can't explain, u know 6am I eat... than 9am I eat Again, 12pm i eat.. I keep eating after 3 hours, don't know if i made myself clear...
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I understand.

I believe what Mindster is trying to accomplish is to boost his metabolism be eating smalls meals frequently throughout the day. In this case he is eating meals every 3 hours.

I would suggest that the meals be extremely small portions. If you are bad at counting calories, then make sure that the portions are smaller than the palm of your hand. IE One chicken breast or one toast or one egg, etc etc. Never eat a full, full meal if you are following this routine.

This is a great way to lose weight. When you do not eat for long periods of time, your body goes into defense and holds on to the next thing you eat thinking that you will not eat again for a long period of time.

So if you go all day at work without eating.. get home and say, "I haven't eaten all day so I think I can eat a hamburger because I have not met my calorie count for the day." Your body will hold on to the fat for dear life.

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i shoud try some day
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Exactly, Marcsui, thanks for your 'translation' =)
And thanks for your explanation too. In every meal I try to eat something like an apple or a white cheese(have no fat)...
Is those cereal bars good for a diet like this? Don't know if have it in your country, but ok =p
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I'm trying this out too. Is it normal that I'm absolutely starving all day? Since this is just my first day, how much time does it take for my body to adjust? I'm only eating a handful (literally), so if I'm constantly hungry all day does that mean I'm not eating enough in each meal?
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So to slow down your metabolism (I need to) I should eat maybe 3 really big meals a day?
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So to slow down your metabolism (I need to) I should eat maybe 3 really big meals a day?
That or adjust what you are eating, so it is harder for your system to process it....

But, why would you want to slow your metabolism down?

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That or adjust what you are eating, so it is harder for your system to process it....

But, why would you want to slow your metabolism down?

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To gain weight or bulk up on muscle perhaps.

Best thing to do is not to slow down your metabolism but to just increase the amount of calorie intake.

Calorie Calculator - Daily Caloric Needs

Really good tool to measure how many calories you need to intake to either maintain your current weight or for fat loss.

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If anyone in the know could address my questions I'd appreciate it.
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OSU Satori

Yes, you probably eat not enough. I think this whole "every 3 hours eating" is to always giving your body enough energy and not feel hungry - which you do. I think the idea behind this is, that since it takes about 4 hours to empty the stomach, you try to always have at least some food (aka fuel) in your system, so that it doesn't have to use your reserves. Also, if you never feel actually hungry, you reduce the risk of overeating.
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Hi Satori - I don't think you should be hungry all the time, unless you are aiming for some fairly significant weight loss. Are you aiming to lose weight? What sort of % bodyweight do you want to gain/lose?

I would suggest that you give consideration to increasing the protein in your small meals (which has a high "satiety value" - it keeps you feeling full for longer). And I'd suggest some low glycaemic index carbohydrates - these are the ones that trickle energy in.

If you have carbs that are high GI, they stimulate a surge of insulin production, soak up all the carbs, and then leaves you hungry again. So it could be simply that you are not making the right choices about which carbohyrates to have as well.

Generally, rice is high GI. The longer the grain, the lower the GI, so Jasmine rice is better that sushi rice. But pasta is best still. Wholegrain pasta even better. Sugars are bad. Some fruits are good, but some are not.

You might already know all this, so I'll stop ranting now, but will be happy to post some more if this is the kind of info you were after.

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Hi Satori - I don't think you should be hungry all the time, unless you are aiming for some fairly significant weight loss. Are you aiming to lose weight? What sort of % bodyweight do you want to gain/lose?
I'm quite slim and I don't want to lose weight at all. That is, I want to gain muscle and lose fat. Gaining muscle isn't the point of this thread and I think I know how to do that quite well, but I do want to lose the little fat that I do have.

I only have a little around my stomach and nowhere else on my body, and since I've heard that the stomach is the last place the fat burns off, I think it shouldn't be too hard to kill it forever but the son of a diddly won't, or doesn't seem to, budge!

Just to get across where I'm at, everyone looks at me like I've escaped from a mental asylum when I tell them I want to cut back on the fat because they can't see any, but I know it's there (at least a little).

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If you have carbs that are high GI, they stimulate a surge of insulin production, soak up all the carbs, and then leaves you hungry again. So it could be simply that you are not making the right choices about which carbohyrates to have as well.
I don't know much about nutrition, so feel free to rant all you like. I've tried to cut as much saturated fat from my food as possible so during the past few weeks I've only eaten a handful of things prepared with oil. I've reduced to stir fry's and sometimes some meat (fried, so I scrunch my face up when I eat it ) either with it or to fill in the food slots during the day, and for breakfast I now eat Corn Flakes.

So you would recommend pasta during the day (every 3 hours)? I have the opportunity to eat it, but one of the varieties tastes good but has lots of cream (when I asked the guy serving it about how fattening it was he told me it's like eating cake) while the other tastes ok but is apparently quite healthy.

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It is interesting that you are at this stage just now. 4th kyu is a very common time for people to start to really get into agressively managing their diet, and your profile says 4th kyu..

I am not a dietitian, but maybe between us all on the forum, we can help you a little bit.

Firstly, the absolute bottom line is calorie balance. If you want to lose fat, you need to burn it off To do that, you need to eat less than you burn. The trick with gaining muscle while you do this is to keep enough protein coming in, and not to cut the calories too much - if you dramatically reduce, then you will start burning muscle and that is BAD BAD BAD.

Finding a caloric need calculator online such as the link posted above is a good idea.

Once you know how many calories are in your allowance, you have to spend them wisely. This means making sure you get enough protein for building muscle, and enough carbs to fuel your training.

I disagree with an earlier post about carbs after 5:00pm. I was always taught that you should eat carbs within 1 hour of training , to replenish muscle glycogen, allowing recovery and endurance for the next day's training. Don't overdo it, but allow your body some carbs after training.

IN response to the specific topic of this thread, I would suggest that you have a mix of low GI (low fat) pasta, some low-sugar, low fat dairy (such as a low-fat yoghurt or skim milk), some protein, and some low GI fruit (such s pears, apples). If you spread these out over your small meals, you might find you are less hungry.

I notice that you are in Australia. There is an absolutely excellent book called "food for sport" written by a couple of sports dieticians (Christine Roberts and Karen Inge). It has all this technical information, along with meal plans and recipes. An absolute must if you want to run your body on the biological equivalent of super-premium fuel.

I've just checked, and it looks like its availabe on Amazon.com.

Good luck with it. Hope you get past "hungry" soon.

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I would respond but Seinchin is doing excellent.
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Thanks for the comprehensive reply.

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I disagree with an earlier post about carbs after 5:00pm. I was always taught that you should eat carbs within 1 hour of training , to replenish muscle glycogen, allowing recovery and endurance for the next day's training. Don't overdo it, but allow your body some carbs after training.
I just found that advice on some "how to get a six pack in 24 hours" sites

Being able to eat carbs after 5pm is a relief because my current work/study schedule doesn't allow me to eat dinner before 5 on any weekday, so I've found I'm really missing the taste of rice and bread!

On the subject of carbs, in general how soon after eating carbs should I be burning them off? If I don't burn them off then they get stored as fat, but how long does this take, and how intensive does my workout need to be to burn off X amount of carbs?

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IN response to the specific topic of this thread, I would suggest that you have a mix of low GI (low fat) pasta, some low-sugar, low fat dairy (such as a low-fat yoghurt or skim milk), some protein, and some low GI fruit (such s pears, apples). If you spread these out over your small meals, you might find you are less hungry.
How often can I eat junk food? If I'm going to eat junk food anyway, what would be the best time of day so that it has as small a negative impact as possible? I definately wouldn't want to eat junk food before training, but you've said that carbs should be ok after training, so might this also hold true with moderate amounts of junk food?

Literarature is always good, thanks for the source.

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Good luck with it. Hope you get past "hungry" soon.
Today was much better than yesterday, either because of my food or my body adjusting to the new meal times. I brought along lots of schnitzel cut into little pieces to split into my small meals and it did a much better job of satisfying me than stir fry. I'll give pasta a go tomorrow.

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