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Old 04-12-2008, 10:23 AM
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Lamest martial arts movie
Thought I'd start a thread to complement the "favourite movie" one...here is your chance to pillory all that is lame in martial arts cinematography!

I have an entire genre that I think is lame. It is typified by one of Steven Siegal's movies "NICO - Above the Law" (but I don't have anything against Steven himself...just this genre.)

The thing about this category of movies that I find lame is that they always start with some happy family/love/girl thing. then the bad guys come and kill or maim the girl/kid/wife etc. And this gives the star an excuse to totally take matters into his own hands.

Lame because the only purpose of even casting the girl is to give the main character an excuse to go on a killing spree.
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There must be 1000īs of these - too many too list, but just bought Game of Death II (as a joke, it was in the bargain basket - 1€) for a friend who likes the genre and yes, itīs crap!
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yeah,segal is fake,i heard he is fat with a bunch of groupie whores whom he demands they call him master! I dont remember the name of the movie, but the one with the dagger fight what a load of crap! Ralph Macchio would bitch slap his over-choreographed arse!
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Every time I see Steven Segal, I just start thinking of Judo Gene Lebel choking him out till he peed his pants, and then I feel better. Im going to say Kickboxer 5. Sasha Mitchell should have let that series die after 3, really.
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Osu!

Sorry, Seienchin, I can't agree with you here. Bad MA movies are all that sustain the Sunday afternoon TV industry.

In in a head-to-head run off between the two, I'd take Seagal's worst movie over anything starring Olympia Dukakis.

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I think this is harder than Favorite one. I think Gymkata ranks up there pretty high though for bad ones.
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I totally hated the one with Van Damme playing identical twins, ... I think it was called Double Impact? Totally sucked in every way.
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Osu!

How about Remo Williams: Unarmed and Dangerous! ?

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Every time I see Steven Segal, I just start thinking of Judo Gene Lebel choking him out till he peed his pants, and then I feel better. Im going to say Kickboxer 5. Sasha Mitchell should have let that series die after 3, really.
From what i'm understanding, Gene said in an interview that there is no truth to rumors...(unless he was under some kinda legal thing...)

Dent: Remo Williams is the ALL TIME GREAT! what are you talking about? how can you NOT like that little old "Korean" master? hahahaha....
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Osu! Kansetsu,

You've hit on the truth. I'm just jealous because I never learned that point. You know the one...

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From what i'm understanding, Gene said in an interview that there is no truth to rumors...(unless he was under some kinda legal thing...)
He might have been. I first heard the story back when I was a pro wrestler from some of the boys in the locker room. A few of them did some stunt man gigs. But then again, it still could be rumors and I wouldn't doubt it a bit. I think I'll go on believing it though, just because Segal always seems like such a jerk.
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He might have been. I first heard the story back when I was a pro wrestler from some of the boys in the locker room. A few of them did some stunt man gigs. But then again, it still could be rumors and I wouldn't doubt it a bit. I think I'll go on believing it though, just because Segal always seems like such a jerk.
I'll see if it's proper to ask my Aikido Teacher (he was a student of Segal Sensei for a very long time), and see if i get the answer to it, or a beating...lol. And to those that knew him...he was a jerk...to those that didn't know him, he was a jerk...LOL. Can't argue with that...it was just his personality.

But i can tell you one thing...he's no fake in Martial Arts department...but he sucks as an actor!! lol

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Oh no, I've never actually doubted his MA cred. I know he was a great practitioner of Aikido. But Judo Gene wasnt exactly a slouch either even at like 60.
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Can't dis the person who went head to head with Bruce Lee...and from his own story, he actually got Bruce in a Choke hold. Gene was the Grandfather of Grappling...lol.
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the street fighters last revenge was pretty bad. Ok it was terrible
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Sakura Killers with Chuck Connors - awful movie and yet strangely fun to watch.
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Sakura Killers with Chuck Connors - awful movie and yet strangely fun to watch.
Yeah - some movies are so bad, you just sit watching them to the end to see if things get any better
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The Sonny Chiba Mas Oyama trilogy was a classic, but it's so bad at the same time...
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How about Remo Williams: Unarmed and Dangerous! ?

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Ouch! Good as cheap pulp fiction, horrible when remade into a movie!
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Any movie (and I mean absolutely ANY movie) with Cynthia Rothrock qualifies for this list.
Not so much because she is a bad actor (although she is certainly not a good one), as for the fact that she accepted horrible cheap c-movie scripts with D-movie budgets.


There are so many lame martial art movies.
No Retreat No Surrender, from 1986, must be my top choice.
The gets taught karate by Bruce Leeīs ghost for a few weeks. Then beats up the big bad russian opponent (Jean-claude Van Damme -who had exactly 8 words to say in the movie "so it is you! the son. is it not?")
I tried to view it again a year or so ago. It was painful (luckily there is a wonderful thing called fast forward).
So speeded up. so cheezy, so BAD!
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