Enshin

[GJEChamberlain]

Osu! Outcastkid,

Thanks for your questions:

1)how similar is enshin and kyokushin?is enshin as though as kyokushin?or its "judo" technique has watered down the rough techique of enshin?

I find there are many key differences. The basics are similar, but with subtle changes here and there to make them a little smoother. The main difference is the strategy - sabaki - whereby instead of locking horns in a test of strength and spirit - you constantly try to achieve a position of advantage.

2)does enshin has any katas?if it does..does the katas is very elaborate like taekwondo bcoz i hate doing katas(sorry)..

There are six kata in Enshin, one at each belt of gradually increasing complexity. Unlike some 'traditional' kata, there is no hidden bunkai, just practical combinations to practise and polish that will then help your footwork and fighting.

3)last question..how will enshin do in mma?bcoz i want to try to compete in mma..

Impossible to answer. The obvious thing to state clearly is that Enshin is a stand-up system where fighting stops if it goes to ground. I know some instructors train a lot with MMA fighters for fun, but Enshin hosts and focusses on its own Tournaments that are a massive challenge! Win that first, then try elsewhere!

hope my questions doesnt insult enshin or any form of martial art.if it does pls 4give me.

No insult detected or taken, but my advice is simple. If you hope to compete, you are going to have to invest a lot of time and effort into training properly, so look around and ask questions before starting. Make sure what you do is right for you, and your coach or Sensei can guide you where you hope to go. Be sure you are 100% committed to what you choose, or progress will be painfully slow.

Good luck in your quest.

Gary

[Dent]

Osu!

I spent several years in Singapore, and can tell you that the Enshin folk are friendly and welcoming. While I haven't seen them compete, I believe it is due more to the difficulties the knockdown styles have experienced with the NGB than anything else.

(While all members HAVE to pay fees to the org., the org. refuses to cough up even a penny toward a national full-contact tournament. Along with their other unpleasant behavior, I find their disdain for the FC Karate groups to be worth a good kicking! )

Where in Singapore are you located? (The Enshin Dojo are fairly localized.)

Osu!

[Martin H]

I remember hearing about a enshin fighter doing good in MMA. Leonard Wilson, one time champion of Rage in the Cage. Although I also seen him referred to as a kyokushin fighter -but that might be because of the tendency outsiders have to call any and all knockdown fighters "kyokushin".
But I cant find the references to it that I once did.
Could you confirm him as having a enshin background?

[GJEChamberlain]

Osu! Martin,

I can't I'm afraid - I left Kyokushin in 1998 and joined Enshin in 2000 so I'm pretty much a new boy.

I've sent an email to one of the longer serving Sensei and I'll get back to you.

Gary

[GJEChamberlain]

OSU!

DUE TO INJURY WE NOW HAVE TWO PLACES LEFT ON NEXT WEEKENDS COURSE WITH KANCHO NINOMIYA.

FIRST TO CONTACT ME ARE IN.

Quote from a previous attendee (Shotokan 5th Dan)

"What I loved about Kancho was he didn't try to change my techniques; he just showed me how to apply them better"

Gary

[MilkManX]

If I lived there I would go!

I have gone to Enshin for 2 classes now and I am signed up for the near future. Sensei Rhodes is getting me a Gi too.

Maybe in a year or two we can train!

[medguy]

Originally Posted by MilkManX

If I lived there I would go!

I have gone to Enshin for 2 classes now and I am signed up for the near future. Sensei Rhodes is getting me a Gi too.

Maybe in a year or two we can train!

Tell Sensei Rhoads I said Osu!
I trained in Enshin under him for several years and got my shodan and nidan under him. Of course, I could just call him myself...But it's a small world. He'll get a kick out of you telling him I said Hi.

[GJEChamberlain]

Osu! MilkManX,

Great! Glad you've signed up! Enshin is a family style group, so no doubt we'll meet up in the future.

Gary

[MilkManX]

Someday soon I hope Gary!

[MilkManX]

Originally Posted by medguy

Tell Sensei Rhoads I said Osu!
I trained in Enshin under him for several years and got my shodan and nidan under him. Of course, I could just call him myself...But it's a small world. He'll get a kick out of you telling him I said Hi.

I went to train last night and he told me you called him already!

[coconut]

osu sensei gary i remember you whey back in the 70s when we use to trian at squd training at crystal palace and at the knockdowns and summer camp s doing the 30 and 40 fights very tough hard traning . i always regret not carrying on to win the knockdown in 77 did not have instuctor to push me on still its raerly graet to make contact with you in the forum spoke to hansi bernard creton last november had not se4en him for 26 years was brillent very besy regards ose micky gooch

[GJEChamberlain]

Osu! Micky,

Great to hear from you. I remember your demo's and my feeble and painful attempts at push-ups on one finger!

There's a few old boys here and I look forward to meeting up again - maybe at the K2 in October.

Best regards,

Gary

[Dobbersky]

Gary, Can I say thank you for an excellent Seminar on Saturday. It was excellent. The Bunkai and combinations were excellent and I should hopefully have my lungs sorted for next year.

Please pass on my thanks to the guys from Enshin for yours and there hospitallity and you are all more than welcome to pop into my dojo for me to return your perfect kindness.

Its amazing that although Ashihara and Enshin are so similar it is supprising that there are also so many differences.

I would recommend to all if Sabaki/Ashihara/Enshin is something that interests you come to the Loughborough Seminars.



Ken

[GJEChamberlain]

Osu! Ken,

We're just about to book for next year ....

Thanks for coming, it went well!

Gary

[shinaido]

I'm really happy that i was part of seminar.
That was pleasure to meet Enshin family, Dobberski nice to meet you (i the polish blow)
Gary Thank you for great organization and good time,Sorry that i was not able to stay for supper

[GJEChamberlain]

Osu! Shinaido

Thanks for coming! We do our best to train properly, and have a good time while we're doing it.

Sorry you had to leave early, and hope to see you again next year.

Gary

[Dobbersky]

Shinaido-san

It was an honour to meet you too. I look forward to meeting you again at next year's Seminar.

[coconut]

osu sensei gary thank you for your replie where is the k1 held in october is it in uk hope to catch up sometime in future would look forword to it kind regards osu micky gooch

[Bloke]

Originally Posted by coconut

osu sensei gary thank you for your replie where is the k1 held in october is it in uk hope to catch up sometime in future would look forword to it kind regards osu micky gooch

Osu Mick

Ill just jump in and answer here in case Gary doesnt come on for a while.

K2 is a venue at Crawley where the BKK Open has moved to this year. Crystal Palace was closed suddenly last year 2 weeks before the British Open and as a consequence it was cancelled so they had to move venue this year.

BTW I saw your world record on the push ups on a coconut at CP one year - great stuff.

[coconut]

osu bloke thanks for letting me know i will definetly be there and see sensei gary and you there i remember the world record at the palace was very very hard to do as was very hot inside and coconut was slippery and hand was sweating grip was moving mil by mil check out woma world of martial arts tv theres a film of me at birmingham nec at seni show challenging the woma ar