Shidokan Karate

daisukey · 05-20-2006, 03:40 AM

I have heard about Shidokan Karate, I don't think it has been discussed about this style before in this forum.

Source:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shidokan

Quote:

Shidokan karate is sometimes described as the triathlon of Martial Arts, as it encompasses knockdown (otherwise known as bare knuckle) karate, Thai kick-boxing, and grappling. Tournaments are full contact and are normally held in a boxing ring. Shidokan Karate was created by Yoshiji Soeno and originated in his training in Kyokushin karate.

Training includes all the traditional waza (techniques), Judo, Jujutsu, Muay Thai and Kata. Holds, pull-downs, locks, throws, and strikes with the tibia and elbow are all part of the style

I have never seen videos of them but seems like Daidojuku style.

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powerof0ne · 05-20-2006, 06:20 AM

I've seen some of the events in the past on pay per view and am impressed by some of the fighters.

Martin H · 05-20-2006, 07:21 AM

Shidokan competitions includes separate sectitions. they hold a championship where round#1 is pure knockdown karate rules in gi and without gloves, Round #2 is thaiboxing rules in shorts (worn under the gi in round #1) with boxing gloves, and round#3 is MMA rules with thin gloves (grappling& ground+ound allowed.

They also hold events with only knockdown+thaiboxing/kickboxing rules, and separate events with the different types of rules.

**Shokei Marcsui** · 05-21-2006, 02:52 PM

Shidokan HL Video of Richard Tramel

VERY Interesting. I think shidokan would be right up KYOFIGHTER's alley (a poster here on kyokushin4life). He teaches both kyokushin and muay thai out of denverContact Kicks Dojo

kakatootoshi · 05-22-2006, 07:36 PM

I have just read a piece of news that Noji Ryuta (the former japanese IKO-Matsui fighter with fuzzy hair and decending-elbowed someone's shoulder repeatedly in a tournament) is going to fight a guy from Shidokan Latvia in "PANCRASE 2006 BLOW TOUR" on 6th June.
Gambatte, Noji!

His opponent:
Arbocius Tiger

1999-2000 World Shidokan Open 75kg Champion
1998 European Shidokan 75kg Champion
He also has some other titles and that includes kickboxing.

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greedy · 05-22-2006, 08:08 PM

correction here, he is not Latvian, he is Lithuanian

http://www.shidokan.lt/main.php?m=0.6

kakatootoshi · 05-22-2006, 08:37 PM

Dear greedy,
From the official website of "Pancrase Japan" they say he was born in Alitas of Lithuania but is a member of Shidokan Latvia. And sometimes they quote him just Shidokan Lithuania/Latvia. But you know different versions are just floating around so sometimes I cannot say for sure I have the correct answer. But thanks for your information anyhow

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greedy · 05-23-2006, 01:31 AM

no problem, glad I can help somehow

Decadent~! · 05-23-2006, 07:10 PM

Where is the New York City area Shidokan branch? What is their contact info?

kakatootoshi · 05-30-2006, 06:46 PM

Breaking news:
Noji Ryuta broke his right knuckle on 26th during a sparring session and has pulled out from the fight.
Miura from Zendokai is going to take his place.

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Iwaks · 05-30-2006, 09:47 PM

押忍

not sure if anyone saw this... There was a Shidokan feature in the Isami catalog/magazine. There was a picture of a beatup and heavily taped up heavy bag in the corner of the Shidokan Honbu... It was a heavy bag that was given to Soeno san by Oyama Sosai many, many years ago. So cool that he kept that in his dojo all these years...

KyokushinFX · 06-02-2006, 06:56 AM

Quote:

Breaking news:
Noji Ryuta broke his right knuckle on 26th during a sparring session and has pulled out from the fight.
Miura from Zendokai is going to take his place.

Did he leave Kyokushin? His association lists on Sherdog as Pancrase Garo.

http://www.sherdog.com/fightfinder/f...ighterID=10969

kakatootoshi · 06-02-2006, 08:06 AM

Dear yokushinFX,
Noji Ryuta was expelled from IKO-1 in 2004.

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kyokushin dave · 06-04-2006, 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kakatootoshi

I have just read a piece of news that Noji Ryuta (the former japanese IKO-Matsui fighter with fuzzy hair and decending-elbowed someone's shoulder repeatedly in a tournament) is going to fight a guy from Shidokan Latvia in "PANCRASE 2006 BLOW TOUR" on 6th June.
Gambatte, Noji!

Yes!!!
Great fighter...i remember him and his descending elbows at World Tournament of 1999...
Wonderful!!!!

kyokushin dave · 06-04-2006, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kakatootoshi

Dear yokushinFX,
Noji Ryuta was expelled from IKO-1 in 2004.

Really???
I didn't know!!!
Can you say me why???
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kakatootoshi · 06-04-2006, 11:43 PM

Dear kyokushin dave,
In April that year Noji single-sidedly talked to the press about wishing to go indepent and leave kyokushin. He wanted to take part in other forms of comepetitions like kickboxing. And subsequently he was expelled from IKO.

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Martin H · 06-09-2006, 02:05 PM

Kyokushin have lost too many good fighters because of the "no pro fighting" rule.

kakatootoshi · 06-14-2006, 06:57 PM

Pancrase fired Noji
On 14th June, the company that produces the pancrase show announced the layoff of Noji Ryuta. The official explanation is "there is a reason that makes continuation of the contract difficult".

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ronro · 08-08-2006, 05:08 PM

So is shidokan comparable to kyokushin techniques wise? I want to start training kyokushin but shidokan is the closest to where I live in London and would be much more convenient to attend.

Do shidokan fighters ever take part in kyokushin tournaments? If not how do they cope with the small pool of fighters available to them in places like the UK?

Also do shidokan allow throws and grabbing in their knockdown rules fights? I have previous judo experience and would like to train a style that allows sweeps off a grab and clinching.

Martin H · 08-08-2006, 05:40 PM

Shidokan karate as a style is very close to kyokushin. However be aware that, especialy in the west, shidokan also do more kickboxing training, and you may find that your local shidokan dojo is realy a muaythai (or even MMA) gym, not doing any karate type training at all. More or less only associating with shidokan as a organization, not realy doing shidokan as a style. Only way to know is to go and watch a few sessions.

Shidokan fighters occationaly take part in "open" kyokushin events, and in other events held by knockdown styles. But in the west you are more likely to see shidokan fighters in muaythai/kickboxing tournaments.

As for judo background. That might be very usefull since shidokan do have grappling in its training.

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