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Old 05-31-2007, 02:49 PM
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I dont understand how it will be possible to pull it of without any political reprecussions from japan, but It is VERY good to see. I hope this will become more and more common.

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Old 05-31-2007, 08:01 PM
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I dont understand how it will be possible to pull it of without any political reprecussions from japan, but It is VERY good to see. I hope this will become more and more common.
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President Putin is scary... We used to have a lot of dirty political struggle in kyokushin between groups. Every major group has trustees in administration of President, parliament and large business: 1980-1990 were dark and hard times for the most people, full-kontact karate and ambisious philosophy of Oyama attracted strong characters and personalities, dojos' and federations' management developed leading skills, fees for training gave capital for start-ups. The most powerful is Trutnev who was a real kyokushin karateka too. Then he become a rich businessman, then mayor of Perm, Governor of Permsky region (Sadvokasov, Pichkunov) and now he is Minister of Natural resoures. He is a true kyokushin lover and supporter. He trains and fights so far and very respected by sportsmen.

http://www.trutnev.ru/photo/official.html (his official photos)

http://www.trutnev.ru/photo/live.html (his unofficial photos)


Putin said (or maybe just people from his administration) to make order in kyokushin field and stop "compromat-war". Trutnev established the Russian Union of martial arts (President) and Association of kyokushinkai (also is a president). Last year only IKO and WKO were in. This year IFK and IFFK (Roayma) become members too. Every federation is separate and free in its policy but Association represents kyokushin in Ministry of sports (in our official state classification of kinds and sorts of sport) and in charge of state documentation. This year they decide to do this tournament to answer the question Who is Number 1 in Russia... And we are happy, fighters are happy... Japanese shihans didn't like the idea their fighters to fight other organizations of course (rumours), but they had to accept this "unity" because this is a state policy in Russia, a claim of authorities.
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President Putin is scary... We used to have a lot of dirty political struggle in kyokushin between groups. Every major group has trustees in administration of President, parliament and large business: 1980-1990 were dark and hard times for the most people, full-kontact karate and ambisious philosophy of Oyama attracted strong characters and personalities, dojos' and federations' management developed leading skills, fees for training gave capital for start-ups. The most powerful is Trutnev who was a real kyokushin karateka too. Then he become a rich businessman, then mayor of Perm, Governor of Permsky region (Sadvokasov, Pichkunov) and now he is Minister of Natural resoures. He is a true kyokushin lover and supporter. He trains and fights so far and very respected by sportsmen.

http://www.trutnev.ru/photo/official.html (his official photos)

http://www.trutnev.ru/photo/live.html (his unofficial photos)


Putin said (or maybe just people from his administration) to make order in kyokushin field and stop "compromat-war". Trutnev established the Russian Union of martial arts (President) and Association of kyokushinkai (also is a president). Last year only IKO and WKO were in. This year IFK and IFFK (Roayma) become members too. Every federation is separate and free in its policy but Association represents kyokushin in Ministry of sports (in our official state classification of kinds and sorts of sport) and in charge of state documentation. This year they decide to do this tournament to answer the question Who is Number 1 in Russia... And we are happy, fighters are happy... Japanese shihans didn't like the idea their fighters to fight other organizations of course (rumours), but they had to accept this "unity" because this is a state policy in Russia, a claim of authorities.
Thanks for the information, very interesting!! I believe the Russians are so strong that they basically can do whatever they want. The Russian fighters are among the best in every category an devery organization, the have many members meaning lots of money for the organizations in Japan, the fighters are very popular - what Japanese organization would go up against this?

I truely believe that as time move along and the people involved in feuds at the time of the split are no longer in power things will change. As of now there are too many people with "political agendas" and an urge to earn money. Hopefully younger generations, as they take over the responsibilities, can leave teh old stuff behind and look forward.
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It's great to see such an event is happening. I wonder who will win.

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I do hope the Russians set a precedent in doing this,so people in Europe or the Americas can do the same thing and if they are challenged about itthey can say "well the Russians are doing it...."
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Please let us know what happened in this event! Osu!
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Old 06-10-2007, 08:06 AM
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1. Anzor Shikhabakhov
2. Igor Titkov
3. Roman Nesterenko
4. Andrey Stepin
5. Suliman Kosumov
6. Shamsudin Abdurashidov
7. Victor Protsenko
8. don't remember (unknown fighter)
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Interesting Igor. Thanks for the results. Could you write a review of the event if you were at the event? And also which factions are each fighter in top 8 from? Osu!
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Mikhail Kozlov (IKO) lost in the first fight (decision)

Darmen Sadvokasov, Artem Pukas,Dmitriy Lunev (all from IKO) lost in the second one.

1/32 - Alexander Ibragimov (IFK) defeated Denis Grigoriev (WKO) by ippon (ushiro mavashi in the liver)

Osipov was very passive and showed nothing. He defeated Gennadi Nechayev (WKO) and Artem Leonov IKO (decision), then lost in the second round to Stepin IKO (decision). Stepin was more active.

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Old 06-10-2007, 04:37 PM
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16 best russian fighters:

Roman Nesterenko WKO
Timur Gastashev IFFK

Victor Protsenko IFFK
Aydyn Novruzov WKO

Viktor Karasyuk WKO
Shamsudin Abdurashidov IFFK

Sergey Melyuk IFFK
Igor Titkov IKO

Goderdzi Kapanadze IKO
Anzor Shikhabakhov IFK

Suliman Kosumov IFFK
Maxim Shevchenko WKO

Tatrakov Bashir IFFK
Alexander Ibragimov IFK

Andrey Stepin IKO
Osipov Sergey IFFK
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1/8:

Nesterenko defeated Gastashev in the second round (decision - awasome fight!)

Victor Protsenko defeated Novruzov by ippon in the second round (ushiro mavashi in the liver)

Shamsudin Abdurashidov defeated Karasyuk by decision

Igor Titkov defeated Sergey Melyuk by boards.

Anzor Shikhabakhov wins european champion Kapanadze by very close decision

Very young but promising Suliman Kosumov defeated Maxim Shevchenko by decision (He had also defeated Sadvokasov!)


Tatrakov Bashir defeated Alexander Ibragimov by weight difference in 19 kg


Andrey Stepin wins Osipov Sergey by decision
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1/4:

Nesterenko defeated Victor Protsenko in the first round (decision)

Igor Titkov defeated Abdurashidov by boards

Anzor Shikhabakhov defeated Suliman Kosumov by decision

Andrey Stepin wins Tatrakov by decision


1/2:

Igor Titkov defeated Nesterenko by boards

Anzor Shikhabakhov defeated Andrey Stepin by decision in the last extension (very difficult fight)

3 place
Stepin didnt go to tatami and nesterenko is a bronza medalist


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Anzor Shikhabakhov is absolute champion of Russia (decision)
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1. Anzor Shikhabakhov IFK
2. Igor Titkov IKO
3. Roman Nesterenko WKO
4. Andrey Stepin IKO
5. Suliman Kosumov IFFK, 19 years, Fighting Spirit Award
6. Shamsudin Abdurashidov IFFK, best technical Award
7. Victor Protsenko IFFK
8. Tatrakov Bashir IFFK

Not vey many ippons and vasaris during the tournament, but all fights were very cool because of highest technical level of all participants (both, seasoned stars and young new talents).
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Wow this must have been one awesome tournament what an experience! Anzor Shikhabakhov IFK and Shamsudin Abdurashidov IFFK are the only one's i have seen (in the IFK 3rd World Tournament). Formidable fighters! Fantastic result for Anzor Shikhabakhov!
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Dear igor,
I think winning this tournament is more difficult then winning All-Japan (any faction). The Russian tournament in fact has raise interests among people in Japan.

If there is news about the DVD of this event becoming available, please let us know.

And thanks for your report!
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igor, when you write IKO WHICH IKO do you mean? Matsui? Matsushima? Tezuka? (since you also list WKO I assume you dont mean Midori).

BTW thanks for the info. We need more events like this one.
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I'm very sorry! Just habit: in conversations in Russia "IKO" usually means Matsui's group. Midori's one is being named "Shin" or "IKO 2". Royama's organization is shortly called "KAN". IFK is IFK. Others are not popular and called just Matsushima's or Tezuka's organizations.But sorry one more time.

About DVD - certainly I will let you now.
And soon some fights will be upload to superkarate.ru The owner of the site confirmed this.

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Igor-san, thanks for the detailed results. Osu!

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Thanks for the results - sounds like an amazing tournament. Just one question - you say Royamas group are referred to as KAN - are they the ones listed in the results above as IFKK?
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Im glad to hear Anzor Shihkabakhov has won such a prestigous tournament,ive seen him fight at several tournaments where he has looked unstoppable early on only to lose his way in the latter stages .
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