Jonan Sibu (Kazumi Hajime) infamous morning training

[kakatootoshi]

Jonan Sibu, which was led by Shihan Hiroshige Tsuyoshi, was dubbed "factory of champions" by many kyokushin critics. Midori, Yamaki, Kazumi and Tsukamoto are but a few names from the list of their top students. Following is one of the many versions of their infamous "morning training".

Abs
Crunches (on a decending bench) 50x3sets
Leg-raise 50x3sets
Crunches (legs put on bench, body on floor) 50x3sets

Back
Back extension 20x4sets
Back leg-raise 30x3sets

Leg stretching

Big mitt section
3-2-2x1set with 10sec intervals
(During off-season, 1minx8-9sets)

Kick mitt
Depends on training theme of the day.
Following is an example:
left, right chudan mawashi geri,
2 left chudan mawashi 1 right chudan mawashi,
left jodan mawashi, right mae geri,
step forward 2 right chudan mawashi,
step forward 2 left chudan mawashi,
left, right mae geri, right hiza geri,
back step 2 right chudan mawashi
(2minsx2sets)

Iken exercises 15 mins

Sparring 1minx10sets

Gundam training (with low kick pants and special protective gear)
3-2-2 (just an example)

Jumping 30x3sets

Iken "Hatsu Riki"(force explosion) exercises with hand-grips
Right 30x3sets
Left 30x3sets

Body toughening
Left, left, right shita tsukix10
Seiken tsuki (countering waza of gedan mawashi)x10
Left, right chudan mawashix10
Inner, outer thigh gedan mawashix10

Ab stepping (have someone standing on your stomach)
Crunchesx50

Neck
Front, back, left, right 10 each

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[Shokei Marcsui]

Good stuff. I've been looking for a morning routine to do before breakfast when I wake up.

I usually just run through kata and basics and do some light stretching to get the day going, but this looks interesting.

ALTHOUGH I did read a book that suggested working out light in the morning gives you more energy during the day and the opposite is true if you work out heavy. It also went on to say that splitting up cardio in the mornings before breakfast and lifting weights in the evening burn more fat.

Any thoughts on that?

EDIT: Changed calories to fat

[ibuki]

Originally Posted by kakatootoshi

Jonan Sibu, which was led by Shihan Hiroshige Tsuyoshi, was dubbed "factory of champions" by many kyokushin critics. Midori, Yamaki, Kazumi and Tsukamoto are but a few names from the list of their top students. Following is one of the many versions of their infamous "morning training".

OSU Kakatootoshi San
You just can't imagine how happy I am after seeing that our forum now with Your aid has already 2 professional Kyokushin trainings. Keep the good info
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[ibuki]

Originally Posted by kakatootoshi

Iken exercises 15 mins

can You explain what is this :?:

Originally Posted by kakatootoshi

Iken "Hatsu Riki"(force explosion) exercises with hand-grips
Right 30x3sets
Left 30x3sets

and this :?:

never done it or didn't know it is called that way so please help. The workout is good but I think that these things that I have quoted and don't understand may make it even greater
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[kakatootoshi]

Dear ibuki,
"Iken" is the japanaese name for "Yiquan" from Chinese martial arts.
I am sorry I am not able to explain to you the details of these exercises since I have not actually studied them. Yes you may imitate what they do, the special "dragon/tiger submitting" stances and all that but if you have not understood the breathing, the special image visualisation and other fine points then you are getting none of the benefits. I suggest you to look for books on "Yiquan" or consult people who have trained in this art if you are interested in it.

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[ichigeki31]

osu!!!!! it's a form of training on how to use the explosive power of chi just like a fa jing in tai chi osu it all has to do with the breathing osu!!!!!!i think there are many books on on explosive breathing etc .osu!!!!

[ibuki]

Originally Posted by ichigeki31

osu!!!!! it's a form of training on how to use the explosive power of chi just like a fa jing in tai chi osu it all has to do with the breathing osu!!!!!!i think there are many books on on explosive breathing etc .osu!!!!

OSU ichigeki31,
could you expand your explanation on this form of training?
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[BigAl]

Originally Posted by Shokei Marcsui

ALTHOUGH I did read a book that suggested working out light in the morning gives you more energy during the day and the opposite is true if you work out heavy. It also went on to say that splitting up cardio in the mornings before breakfast and lifting weights in the evening burn more fat.

I personally feel better throughout the day if I work out in the morning either light or heavy. I'll sometimes do my weight training and/or strongman events training as early as 6am on days I'll be up until almost 10:30pm (when I get home from Kyokushin) but I'll still feel fairly energized throughout the day. Other days I'll just wake up, do some light stretching and maybe Sanchin and Tensho and I'm ready to rock.

I feel as long as you're doing something, you're on the right track.

[BigAl]

Originally Posted by kakatootoshi

Dear ibuki,
"Iken" is the japanaese name for "Yiquan" from Chinese martial arts.
I am sorry I am not able to explain to you the details of these exercises since I have not actually studied them. Yes you may imitate what they do, the special "dragon/tiger submitting" stances and all that but if you have not understood the breathing, the special image visualisation and other fine points then you are getting none of the benefits. I suggest you to look for books on "Yiquan" or consult people who have trained in this art if you are interested in it.

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I've had the priviledge of learning Ikken through one of my sempai. We'll often do it at the end of our classes and I feel it has great benefits. I try to do it every day but it more ends up being 3-4x a week so far, I need to work on it more.

Basic Ikken is essentially assuming a stationary pose where you remain relaxed and focus on your breathing without closing your eyes. You're slightly up on the balls of your feet and you want hips aligned with your body so you'll have the best posture you can possibly get. The hand positioning varies but we do three different types: hands down by our sides but our palms facing slightly upwards, our hands held in front of us palms down as if you're standing in water and your hands are floating on the top, and the third is similar to holding a large beach ball in front of you, with your arms forming a circle in front of you. It's all about the relaxation, breathing, and posture. It's not forceful exhalations like in Sanchin either, it's deep and relaxed.

I've only been doing it for a couple months now and not as consistently as I would like, but I have noticed it does make me much more relaxed and my posture in my stances and everyday life has gotten slightly better.

[ibuki]

Originally Posted by BigAl

Basic Ikken is essentially assuming a stationary pose where you remain relaxed and focus on your breathing without closing your eyes. You're slightly up on the balls of your feet and you want hips aligned with your body so you'll have the best posture you can possibly get. The hand positioning varies but we do three different types: hands down by our sides but our palms facing slightly upwards, our hands held in front of us palms down as if you're standing in water and your hands are floating on the top, and the third is similar to holding a large beach ball in front of you, with your arms forming a circle in front of you. It's all about the relaxation, breathing, and posture. It's not forceful exhalations like in Sanchin either, it's deep and relaxed.

alrighty this is the relaxation but how about the:

Originally Posted by ichigeki31

osu!!!!! it's a form of training on how to use the explosive power of chi just like a fa jing in tai chi osu it all has to do with the breathing osu!!!!!!

what are these Ikken methods?

[ichigeki31]

in tai chi your tounge should touch the ceiling of your mouth just behined your teeth directly, your legs should be a bit clawed to grip the ground ,and your knees a bit bent and then relax your shoulders and your pelvis should a bit arched to the front just like when you perform a sachin dachi relax andthen preform a bit of sloow breathing and then after a sometime in training of slow breathing you can go to forced breathin but your moves should be slow osu!!! thats all i read so when i get more info ill soon post it osu!!!!! hope you find this useful osu!!!!

[Aunty Ichigeki]

A Shihan from Japan showed us this too. He described the same relaxed posture but had us visualise holding a 'fragile glass orb' loosely under your waki (lower than your armpit), between your thighs and under your chin... all while staying completely relaxed!

[kakatootoshi]

Dear Aunty Ichigeki,
What I have read is quite similar. The book says you have to hold a big paper balloon. You cannot break it but you cannot let it fall either. And at the same time you must imagine yourself holding a ball between your knees.
I have also read that the fluid footwork of Shihan Kazumi Hajime comes from his practice of Iken (something like a zig/zag form of slowly walking back and forth?)
And my limited understanding of Yiquan/Iken/Taikiken stops here.

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[Lanky Sempai]

Originally Posted by Aunty Ichigeki

A Shihan from Japan showed us this too. He described the same relaxed posture but had us visualise holding a 'fragile glass orb' loosely under your waki (lower than your armpit), between your thighs and under your chin... all while staying completely relaxed!

Can you show us that at some stage?

[BigAl]

I know Kancho Royama is trying to bring back Ikken into Kyokushin as well.

http://www.budokaratehouse.com/honbu/fukushima06.htm

[Lanky Sempai]

That looks alot like some Qigong stances from Da Mo Fist Set

[kakatootoshi]

Just found an informative website on the art of Yiquan(Iken) and there are articles, videos and a free e-book. It is worth checking out.

http://www.yiquan.com.pl/

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[Aunty Ichigeki]

Originally Posted by Lanky Sempai

Can you show us that at some stage?

Sho thing! But they really have covered all I know. Esp. with the pics. Stand like that, imagine the paper orbs (I like that better... l found myself worrying about the shards of glass hitting my bare feet!), half shut your eyes & belly breath for 10 minutes... without falling over.

[ichigeki31]

thats no easy thing to do it is tiring ,belly breathing needs alot of stamina osu !!!! and thanx kakakatootshi for the site osu!!!

[killer_kicks88]

what is the idea behind the ikken training?