Starting karate HELP!!!

[FutureProdigy]

Originally Posted by blackshield

We also did a huge amount of multiple attacker sparring, still full contact... sometimes involving weapons defence. For me this is what traditional karate should be - a well rounded hollistic system, trained in a realistic way. The reason I say all this is because I have now started Kyokushin - the reason being that the Goju clubs here seem to contain zero realism or substance (the tippy tappy crap that everyone knows). The kyokushin on the other hand doesn't contain quite the breadth of areas that I am looking to cover - but what it does do it does very very well (hard strike based fighting).

I have been struggling with this concept as well. I would like to study a comprehensive form of karate, like your former goju club but all the 'complete' forms of karate in my area practice soft kumite... which for me automatically erases them from the choice menu. I really enjoy kyokushin A LOT but its lack of comprehensiveness concerning throws, locks, and the ground has been something I am struggling to make sense of. I really want to continue with kyokushin but also want a more rounded education.

I'm starting to realize that if one wants this, especially in North America, one may have to cross train. Thus, I am looking to get back into judo... which will hopefully fill some holes left in kyokushin.

[Kansetsu]

OSU FutureProdigy!

I believe DaidoJuku does ground game, take downs etc...not sure about locks or throws. But i think no matter where you go, one has to cross train to get the other aspect of martial arts unless you do MMA (and even then it's still cross training).

Judo is great, but i am not too sure if they are good at locks...they do body locks and stuff, but i don't think they deal too much with small joint manipulation (i could be wrong though...lol).

In my opinion, for small joint locks and manipulation, Aikido is the best. Ground is of course Jujutsu, and throws...Judo.