What type of students do instructor's like to teach more?

[nzproud]

What type of students do instructors like to teach? Is it obviously students that train hard?

Let students hear what keeps them instructors favourite!

[Spirit]

My personal favorite is..
The person is always at the dojo willing to always push themselves no matter what.

Willing to always try "their" best and is always open for constructive criticism

Willing to dedicate the limited time they can spare to the dojo i.e. teach, talk to parents, paint, clean the floor, bathroom... and is pleasant and thankful for the knowledge and workout.

They are not the best nor the worst student when it comes to talent, but they are the most consistent, loyal and have the biggest heart "spirit" vigor.
AND always have a smile ON their face before and after class and a frown of struggle during class....

[ANTSAN]

Well I dont know for sure, I can only guess what my instructors think and like to see.
My best assumption would be those students who push themselves, listen carefully, rise to challenges, and no matter what level they are dedication and progress progress progress!

[supergroup7]

That's a great question nzproud, and I'm interested in the variety of answers that will come, but I have to add the thought that becoming an instructor's "favorite" is a very limiting goal.

[ANTSAN]

Originally Posted by supergroup7

but I have to add the thought that becoming an instructor's "favorite" is a very limiting goal.

Indeed, as is the thought of instructors showing favouritism!

[nzproud]

Osu! I have to agree. Please let the topic be "What type of students do instructors like to teach more?".

[Dent]

Osu!

Paying ones?

Osu!

[Bloke]

Originally Posted by Spirit

My personal favorite is..
The person is always at the dojo willing to always push themselves no matter what.

Willing to always try "their" best and is always open for constructive criticism

Willing to dedicate the limited time they can spare to the dojo i.e. teach, talk to parents, paint, clean the floor, bathroom... and is pleasant and thankful for the knowledge and workout.

They are not the best nor the worst student when it comes to talent, but they are the most consistent, loyal and have the biggest heart "spirit" vigor.
AND always have a smile ON their face before and after class and a frown of struggle during class....

Spirit - I couldnt have worded it better - thanks

Originally Posted by nzproud

Osu! I have to agree. Please let the topic be "What type of students do instructors like to teach more?".

Ask and ye shall receive - title changed.

[Dent]

Osu!

Ones who appreciate that the instructor is doing this out of love of the art. (Of course, in a good Dojo, and based on the right kind of instructor too.)

I have seen Sensei give up family time, work opportunities, and a lot of cash out of pocket, just to be there for some members who didn't appreciate them one bit.

I'd like to remind everyone that our fees don't pay for the instruction, but rather for the opportunity for us to receive that instruction.

We pay for the instruction through our efforts, and in sweat equity!

Osu!

[ksan]

Originally Posted by Spirit

My personal favorite is..
The person is always at the dojo willing to always push themselves no matter what.

Willing to always try "their" best and is always open for constructive criticism

Willing to dedicate the limited time they can spare to the dojo i.e. teach, talk to parents, paint, clean the floor, bathroom... and is pleasant and thankful for the knowledge and workout.

They are not the best nor the worst student when it comes to talent, but they are the most consistent, loyal and have the biggest heart "spirit" vigor.
AND always have a smile ON their face before and after class and a frown of struggle during class....

I very much recognise what you say in the last 3 lines here Spirit... very well put...

Osu

Originally Posted by ANTSAN

Indeed, as is the thought of instructors showing favouritism!

Being allowed to sweep the floor or wash the sensei`s car is sensei showing favouratism...only not many students see it this way. When a student is allowed to do this, the sensei give`s the oppertunity to learn and earn trust. Sweep the floor, wash the car, give the warming up, take the class, take over the dojo.....

As far as i see it, the students must come to terms with this in their own time, and some never will, i think sosai called this filiapiety (did i spell this correct?) contribution and participation to the society you live in....

Dent also makes a good point in this direction, "sensei`s giving up family time and money to show support to students who do not understand or respect it" To me this is the otherside of the same medalion....

A dojo is like a small community center.. everyone participate`s and contributes....

[Bloke]

Filial piety is to show love and respect for ones parents although perhaps Sosai meant this in general to ones elders

[ksan]

Originally Posted by Bloke

Filial piety is to show love and respect for ones parents although perhaps Sosai meant this in general to ones elders

Osu thank you for explaining....

Did he only mean elders as in the older people in society, or also as a positive contribution to society?

I have seen many of his speeches and read them and i cant seem to make clear that he only meant, our elders when he stressed this subject... what i understood form it is that he meant/was talking about an altogether positive attitude and help towards society

[Dent]

Osu!

Originally Posted by ksan

Did he only mean elders as in the older people in society, or also as a positive contribution to society?

I have seen many of his speeches and read them and i cant seem to make clear that he only meant, our elders when he stressed this subject... what i understood form it is that he meant/was talking about an altogether positive attitude and help towards society

I think the difficulty may be in conceptual interpretation. Some concepts are cultural, and don't translate well.

I always thought this to mean "Those that came before". As in, we are responsible for upholding the society as part of our duty to those who did so before us.

For example: If I am your student, then it is my duty to be there for the next generation, and I need to be willing to make the appropriate sacrifices to that end.

Osu!

[ksan]

Originally Posted by Dent

Osu!



I think the difficulty may be in conceptual interpretation. Some concepts are cultural, and don't translate well.

I always thought this to mean "Those that came before". As in, we are responsible for upholding the society as part of our duty to those who did so before us.

For example: If I am your student, then it is my duty to be there for the next generation, and I need to be willing to make the appropriate sacrifices to that end.

Osu!

Good interpretation...

osu

[Olrac]

Originally Posted by ksan

Being allowed to sweep the floor or wash the sensei`s car is sensei showing favouratism.......

Been there....a long time ago.
I was about 14 years old, without money....but willing to do almost anything to train. My first sensei noticed that and gave me the chance to earn my traininglessons.
I'm still gratefull for this.

And now...I still sweep the dojo floor before the lessons start (no more cleaning cars, ksan..don't ask)
So I guess the only thing that has changed is...the colour of my belt

[ksan]

Originally Posted by Olrac

My first sensei noticed that and gave me the chance to earn my traininglessons

I know,

I also know he didnt need you to wash the car, he could easily afford to pay to get that done....

so there was another reason for him letting you wash the car...

[Bloke]

Originally Posted by Dent

Osu!



I think the difficulty may be in conceptual interpretation. Some concepts are cultural, and don't translate well.

I always thought this to mean "Those that came before". As in, we are responsible for upholding the society as part of our duty to those who did so before us.

For example: If I am your student, then it is my duty to be there for the next generation, and I need to be willing to make the appropriate sacrifices to that end.

Osu!

I agree here Dent - although its still open to other peoples interpretations.

[ksan]

I think the open discussion about subjects is good ... not many places around where we can have an open discussion like this on these subjects