Self defence for women

[Spirit]

The eyes are a very venerable place to attack YES, But under the pressure and surprise of the initial attack???

Though my SD train to others is limited, my approach to it is train them first and last about the feelings and emotions that happen during the initial attack.

Take a moment to think (remember) how you feel when someone or thing scares or startles you (to the point your heart jumps). Now take that feeling and shock and add 10X the amount of rush that will be going through your body when a violent attack happens to you.

I would think that train the students/people to understand and to really feel that split second of total fear would be best, so they have experienced it within a safe environment and then work to tech they to react to defending themselves during that not freeze up in shock, try to recover (will the attack is happening) and then to defend?

Again these are just my humble views on this matter.
Some of you may have a better feel for this"if" you have gone through an attack and was able to focus to defend without freezing up or going into fear shock.

[seienchin]

Spirit - you are absolutely correct. It's just about impossible to think that one would hold it together sufficiently to aim for such a small target as eyes (specifically). I don't think any of us know how we'll react in a ghastly situation unless we are unfortunate enough to have it happen.

The overall rule is - stay out of trouble, and don't escalate a situation unless you are at risk. So many questions about "self" defense seems to focus on protecting posessions (as in the initiating post to this thread). That isn't "self" defense.

My sensei used to say "the self-defence isn't over until you are home, safely tucked in bed, dreaming about it".. and he would say that right after telling us to run, not fight. There is no honour in an unnecessary fight, especially if you end up on the wrong end!

[homer_simpson]

Kakato geri to the knees is useful in self-defense application. Drive the kick from inside-out rather than frontal approach. So hit the left side of right knees, or the right side of left knees. It is simple enough for anyone to so, and it does not take that long to practice the proper timing. One may add some hand movements to the opponent's face for distraction, then hammer in with kakato geri.

Poking the opponent's eyes is not as easy as it seems to be. Most people are accustomed to turn their faces away whenever they see an object approaches their eyes. I remember reading it somewhere (perhaps it was Sosai Oyama's writing) about poking the opponent's eyes. It is harder to hit if you try to target the eyes with your fingers. The best way is to open your palm and spread your fingers, and try to touch the opponent's nose with your middle finger.

Osu!

[Spirit]

HS,
this is one of those looking into the glass house things.
Very easy to say how to do almost imposable when in the situation .

Remember when you first learned to chamber a punch... difficult and your elbow would bow out or shoulders would hike up etc... You would turn your wrist way to soon, use all 4 knuckles, wrist bent, not be able to punch to the center line... over time you learn how to do it, you became a perfect puncher in the dojo or tourney, but you still will revert back to wild hay-maker punches when in a fight... even after years of training.

So how can a few weeks or hours (or even years) of S/D training help out someone who is being violently attacked????????????? or even remember how to kick someone in the correct angle to hit the knee?

I bet, you still hold your breath when you do Kata and/or spar!!!!

[Sonik]

I always tell my sister and girlfriend to pretend being cooperative and then attack by surprise. If a guy's in the raping position for instance a woman can go for a armlock or a choke in case he's wearing a jacket. In a standup situation let the pruse fall on the ground to distract him and then hiza geri right in the balls and run. Or then use the mace can. They both have one lol.

[Zanshin]

[quote=BudoKid2002;8896]Osu,

I would like to know what are kyokushin karatekas opinions on what a woman should do when faced with this situations:

1. What is the best defense against a motorbike snatch thief? (note: this happens everyday in the neighbourhood I'm in!)

2. What can a woman do when a man has her pinned down on the ground?

3. A woman is unlocking the door to her car, and an attacker grabs her in a bear hug from behind. How can she free herself?

4. A woman has a long strap purse. An attacker snatches it from behind. What should she do?

5. An attacker confronts a woman at knife point, asking for her purse. What should she do?

6. A man is taunting and following a woman then suddenly pulls on her hand. What should she do?

7. A woman is in her car but forgets to lock her door. A hand reaches in and grabs her bag which is beside her. What can she do?

8. What are some basic everyday objects that can be used as a weapon in a confrontation?
I gave this question some thought and I agree with Spirit, it is almost impossible to answer these scenarios ina fourm even though great examples and replies have been given. The one thing aI can add to all of these scenarios is one of the most important, awareness. For each example if the woman is aware of her surroundings(environmental awareness and situational awareness) she can if not avoid the attack at least diminish it greatly. In many of these scenarios it seems like the woman is alone. If that is the case by being aware she can avoid alot of these situations. Again there are too many variables to address them all in a forum setting but I would say being aware is the most important of all skill sets. As karateka the best way to "win" a fight is to not have one at all.

[seienchin]

From our local Newspaper today:

A 37-year-old woman has been treated for minor injuries after she was dragged beside a car during a bag-snatching yesterday evening.
The woman had been walking along the corner of Belwood and Westcombe Street about 6pm yesterday evening when a blue Holden Commodore sedan pulled up next to her.
A blonde female passenger then jumped out of the vehicle and grabbed the woman's handbag, before running back to the vehicle.
As the vehicle was leaving the female victim ran to the driver's side and attempted to grab the keys from the ignition, but was pulled beside the car for a short distance.
The woman received minor injuries from the incident and was taken to Hospital for treatment.
The car was last seen travelling down Monier Road.
The woman is described as having short bleached-blonde hair, white jeans and a pink top.

Again - the folly of risking life or limb to protect a purse. How much is a leg worth? This woman was lucky , as she only sustained minor injuries - but trying to grab keys? Too many hollywood movies, methinks.

[vapor]

Agreed, the risks are simply too high....

What are we talking about, a few dollars, a pair of sunglasses, a checkbook, etc. etc.

All that can be replaced, cancelled, or simply missed...

vapor

[Sonik]

Of course if it's just for the money the risk may not be worthy however if it's a rape situation then things change.

The car incident Seienshin mentioned here is a case where the best thing is to take notice of the car and report it to the police. Trying to grab the keys while the car in on the move is very "holywoodesc" i agree. If it was me i would grab a a street rock and throw it a the driver. Or eye gauge him.

[Spirit]

It is the impulse of human nature that we all train to change (or at least should be training to change).
This woman, acted in impulse mode and it would have been the best thing to do if attacked, but to chase a car and try to immobilize it is just pride impulse

[andyhugfan33]

situation 3 she can kick the mann in the ballz with an age ushiro kakato geri



4. turn around and slap the attacker in his face

[Kratos]

1. What is the best defense against a motorbike snatch thief? (note: this happens everyday in the neighbourhood I'm in!)

Don't carry valuable things in your bag, Jim Wagner use a throwaway wallet, an excellent idea - a wallet with little cash and some old, canceled credit cards. The thief is often only after your money - let him have the throwaway wallet, while you keep your own! A good tip also is to get a good view of the thief, and may the police will catch him.

2. What can a woman do when a man has her pinned down on the ground?

The eye gouge, very easy. Bite him, anyone can bite. Kick frenetic with your legs. Grab his hair. Scream for help.

3. A woman is unlocking the door to her car, and an attacker grabs her in a bear hug from behind. How can she free herself?

Use your foot, hitting the shin, sliding down and stomping the tender bones of the attacker's foot with your heel.

4. A woman has a long strap purse. An attacker snatches it from behind. What should she do?

Once again, the idea of the throwaway wallet.


5. An attacker confronts a woman at knife point, asking for her purse. What should she do?

The throwaway wallet, throw the purse at him, and run.

6. A man is taunting and following a woman then suddenly pulls on her hand. What should she do?

Tell him to let go - and made sure that everyone (not you and him) hear it!

Some knowledge of wrist lock releases should be useful. A well-placed kansetsu geri to the knee will also be good - and run!

7. A woman is in her car but forgets to lock her door. A hand reaches in and grabs her bag which is beside her. What can she do?

Slam the door hard on his arm and hand, and drive away fast.

8. What are some basic everyday objects that can be used as a weapon in a confrontation?

1) Pen - as a stabbing object; aim for the eyes, face in general
2) Keys - as a stabbing object; aim for the eyes, face in general
3) Perfume bottle - as a blinding object; aim for the face