Kicking techinques.

[Anasazi]

Hey pals, I'm quite new to this forum but I hope you'll accept me
Anyway, I'm now making my first post and it's about a 57sec movie
of kicking.
I would like to ask you to review my kicks in it, I know it might be a bit hard but I'm gonna make a new video in about a week with more power.
I'm taking shotokan and the kicks in the movie; (If you can't recon b'cuz of lack of technique/bad quality)
- Mawashi geri jodan
- Mawashi geri gedan
- Ushiro mawashi geri
- Front house
- Some yoko geri gedans to my friends head

Link:youtube.com/watch?v=jPeOoCop9rQ

[Shokei Marcsui]

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[Anasazi]

Thanks, hokay. Hehe...

[kyokushin4life]

anasazi-san. Welcome to the forums. You seem to have flexibility, and I would like to see you doing those kicks in a bigger area so you have more freedom for doing those kicks. I also would like to see you working on a bag or pads.

Osu.

[Anasazi]

Thanks, yea. Next week Ima record some techniques on a bag outside my house. Hopefully I will have my 10 posts so I can "legally" post the link, hehe...

[kakatootoshi]

Dear Anasazi,
Welcome to the community.

I think you have a good body stability while kicking, but I would also like to see how you maintain your balance when you kick at full speed and also in combinations. And yes working on the bag can let us know more about the actual power of the kicks.

Keep posting.

OSU!

[seienchin]

anasazi, welcome to the forums.

If you have any goal of one day fighting in knockdown, you really need to get your hands up. The hand on the non-kicking side that is currently down around your waist - is leaving your head very, very vulnerable. A good counter kicker will take you down in seconds, and then it won't matter how good your kicks are. Promisingly, you are not moving that hand to get momentum in the kick, so you should be able to hold it whereever you choose to put it.

Try to develop the ability to do all your kicks with your hands high - The non-kicking side is especially important. Initially, try to tap your forehead with the base of your thumb each time you kick. Over time, make that a guard hand about 20 - 25 cm in front of your head.

[Jan-san]

I think i'm a little late here, but well.. Most things were already said.. I would like to see you kicking against a bag or somethin' like that.. Your flexibility seems right, but we can't see if you have some power behind your kicks. Maybe you can take another movie against a bag or something else? At this point your kicking techniques remind me on taekwondo. (There is no negativ meaning in it)

[Anasazi]

Thanks all, thanks for the good tip seienchin. Really appreciate it, usually I do keep my guard up but it seemes like I didn't think about it while recording the movie.
Anywho, I will record a movie kicking/punching a bag and some combos the next weekend. Hope you'll have patience.

Osu!

[seienchin]

Originally Posted by Anasazi

T usually I do keep my guard up but it seemes like I didn't think about it while recording the movie.


Osu!

And there's the tough bit. It should be so automatic, that it feels WRONG in a big way to kick without your head covered...it's just practice, and I'm sure you will get there, but one day, having your head covered without even thinking about doing it will save your brain from being bruised!

[supergroup7]

I'm taking shotokan and the kicks in the movie; (If you can't recon b'cuz of lack of technique/bad quality)
- Mawashi geri jodan
- Mawashi geri gedan
- Ushiro mawashi geri
- Front house
- Some yoko geri gedans to my friends head


O.K.. Your Sensei's teachings, and advice should be of priority for your learning the requirements of your art. I will offer you some advice, please take it or leave it depending on what you are looking to achieve.

First, I have to say that I noticed that you mentioned that you are training in Shotokan. Shotokan kicks have a different goal than Kyokushin kicks. The advice that you would need would be to develop a stronger Shotokan centered type of kick, right? So here is what I can offer you:

Mawashi Jodan, Mawashi Chudan, and Ushiro Mawashi Jodan - You have nice flexibility, and show good control. You have a relaxed feeling to these kicks.. that's good.

You are chambering your knee in front which will provide speed, but lower the amount of power. If this is what you desire, then you are doing well. However, by chambering in front, you are losing alot of the circular arc of this kick. Your leg seems to be coming up straight, and then striking. It looks more like a hybrid of side kick ( Yoko geri) than of a roundhouse kick to me. You are striking with heisoku ( instep) like a Kyokushin/ TaeKwonDo ka. Shotokan rarely use their instep. The Shotokan Mawashi is done with Chusoku ( Ball of the foot) I noticed that your support leg is straight.. I'd suggest for better power, and balance, it is recommended to bend your support leg's knee. I could not see your support foot to witness if it rotated or not because the bed was in the path of viewing.

I'm sorry to say that I didn't see any Gedan kicks performed, but I believe that this is because of terminology differences. Are those kicks that you did to mid-level called "Gedan" to you? Gedan kicks, to me, are directed to the legs, mid-level kicks are Chudan.

A Kyokushin kick will go through it's target, a Shotokan kick will not.. Shotokanists pride themselves on just tapping their intended target with total control. In a Shotokan kick, the recoil of the leg is more important than the sending out. I realize that you were moving slowly in this demonstrative video so therefore I could not see how fast you can recoil your foot, but I did notice that you do not recoil the foot back all the way at times.

What I'd recommend is for you to use your dining room/ kitchen table as a training tool.
Stand in front of the table, and lift your knee to the side ( Like you did at the start of your video to stretch) Check to see if your heel of your kicking foot is in a straight line with your knee. Making sure that your support knee is bent at the same time. Turn your hips so that your knee, and foot are hovering over the dining room table horizontally. Kick out and back pulling your heel towards your bum ( Do not lose that horizontal orientation.) Remember that it is that pulling back of the heel that is most important, you want to be able to pull back faster than you kick out. Shotokanist whip out that kick, it is the force of the recoil that does the damage. (This is a similar concept as to whipping a wet towel)

I have to differ with the others on using a bag right now. ( Not that it is a bad idea.. I'd totally recommend it later on when you have your technique down.) I just think that hitting a bag with improper technique will cause potential damage.

[Satori]

Those kicks looked good. Your flexibility is fine. As people have said it's hard to guage your strength but even if you're not an animal, you have enough basics to be able to work on your strength.

One thing I would criticise is you said you did some yoko geri's to your friend's head, but they just looked like mawashi geri's. Stylistic difference to be sure, but a yoko really should come out straight. Distinct chamber, slightly tucking the foot in to wind up is optional, and shoot out straight. Seeing how you performed your slow kicks, executing a good yoko geri would look quite impressive

[Setsuna162]

I think some Shotokan groups teach instep front-chambered round kick. I used to be a Shotokan my self and I was also told to do this type of round kick.

[Anasazi]

supergroup7, I'm speechless. Thas was the kind of post I was looking for, I appreciate your review so much. Thanks, and yea, sorry. I did confused the gedan with chudan

Satori, yea, the last two kicks to my lazy cousins head might be called lacky yoko geris, but the two first one would more be like a MGC/F-CRK.

[supergroup7]

I'm happy that I was able to give you some things to consider, Anasazi. I still strongly encourage you to work towards the kind of kick that your Sensei is teaching you. As Setsuna162 mentioned "some Shotokan groups teach instep front-chambered round kick." Also, some dojo will call a kick to the mid-section with the term "Gedan".. so I may be innocently misdirecting you away from what your Sensei is showing.

I was commenting on what I was taught, and how I perceived the kicks that you were demonstrating.. things may be totally different in your part of the world.

[chen3141]

Keep your knee back behind your hip, keep your hand up, lest you like getting hit in the face. Even in kihon, pretend you are fighting, just fighting very technically. Quoth my sensei "my 6 year old nice can kick above her head, but if you can't knock someone out with that kick, then there is no point to it."

[Anasazi]

Okay, nice quote. You mean the knee in my support leg?

[chen3141]

Originally Posted by Anasazi

Okay, nice quote. You mean the knee in my support leg?

The kicking knee, you'll open up your hips a little more and gain more power.

[Anasazi]

A'right, hm hm... Ima make a another shortmovie for the interested ones.