Silliest ever self-defence technique

[jcbel]

Originally Posted by jcc

PS: The sketch above has reminded me of something else that I read about when living in South Africa. A traffic "incident" between 2 guys. One gets out of his car, brandishing a pair of nunchaku. The other guy calmly pulls out a gun and shoots him. Read a report about this in the newspaper there, so has a 40-50% chance of being true

Coming from a country where flamethrowers are allowed on cars? Yea probably!

http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/africa/9812...e.thrower.car/

So does getting into your car and using a flamethrower count as a self-defense technique? It's probably on par with the fruit self-defence.

[jcc]

Osu! Nix,

I heard that they were behind schedule, so Mr. Ford just came up with the short-cut! Great scene in any case. A lesson for all plotters of cheesy fight scenes!

jcbel: The incident I mentioned happened about 25 years ago, but yeah, flamethrower, 16-ton weight, whatever works for you!

Osu!

[Dent]

Osu!

South Africa has many high ranked Karateka. Several have successfully defended themselves against violent crime. Several have been hospitalized. Some have been killed.

Karate is not a reason to think that we are glass, steel, knife or bulletproof.

I can only hope we all realize that.

Osu!

[tmd]

The more I watch that Carey sketch the more I see how Karate is viewed by some in the outside world. There a lot of instructors like this guy out there - I know, I've seen a few.

One told a mate of mine to never kick off the back leg because it lacked power, (Note 2 gold bars)

[eadese]

My sensei hasn't taught me magic yet could be time to change styles

[seienchin]

Originally Posted by olyckan

this thread needs this link...

YouTube - Karate Teacher Comedy Jim Carrey

Thanks Olyckan - this thread does indeed need this link. I tried to find it for my opener, and I couldn't. Fantastic stuff. I have actually seen someone teach like that..."no - you attacked me wrong"....

[chen3141]

I've always found it ridiculous when self defense starts with "grab me by the wrist." I've never seen a fight start with someone grabbing someone else's wrist.

[tmd]

Originally Posted by chen3141

I've always found it ridiculous when self defense starts with "grab me by the wrist." I've never seen a fight start with someone grabbing someone else's wrist.

Guess what we did tonight

[Tettsui]

Here's some self defense against a side kick...I didn't know we needed self defense against the side kick.

The first two demonstrations look legit, but then comes my personal favorite #3 - jumping onto his horse riding stance.

Side kick defense

[chen3141]

Originally Posted by Tettsui

Here's some self defense against a side kick...I didn't know we needed self defense against the side kick.

The first two demonstrations look legit, but then comes my personal favorite #3 - jumping onto his horse riding stance.

Side kick defense

I like how he grabs the foot then proceeds to do some sort of joint lock. Because everyone knows that when someone kicks you you'll have to perfect timing to grab his foot without breaking any fingers at all.

[seienchin]

Originally Posted by Tettsui

Here's some self defense against a side kick...I didn't know we needed self defense against the side kick.

The first two demonstrations look legit, but then comes my personal favorite #3 - jumping onto his horse riding stance.

Side kick defense

And what's more...breaking the guys neck for the crime of having such a bad side-kick.

Wonder how this guy knows that the twisting movement would break a neck. Reckon he has ever actually done it???

[Kris]

HUMOR: The guy in this video has got it, he knows how to make fun of the silly self defence techniques. "Wrist control" anyone?

[Dent]

Osu!

Very funny, Kris! Wrist control it is!

Osu!

[seienchin]

Well beyond wrist control - I liked the mugger mugging you while he is asleep in his own bed..LOL very funny

[Nix]

Tettsui,

I agree with you.The two first bears resemblence to the Sabaki Method, and might actually work, if it hadn't been such a poor demonstration. Notice how the attacker doesn't even get close to hitting, and the defender fails to sidestep. The third defense... I think that may be one of the most ludicrous things I have ever seen. Also I like how Seienching points out how the swift justice brought upon him. Good riddance. On the same note, notice how the red-belt is overacting everything, writhes in pain etc. even though the defender isn't even near him.

[tmd]

Originally Posted by chen3141

I've always found it ridiculous when self defense starts with "grab me by the wrist." I've never seen a fight start with someone grabbing someone else's wrist.

Chen, been thinking about this, this morning, think it's still a valid thing to teach kids as being grabbed or lead away could be seen as a valid first strike? Whan I might do is when we next do, to make it more realistic is make it a pull rather than a grab as pulling them forward or making them do it walking would be more realistic.

[seienchin]

It might be different for men, but my personal experience is that I am more likely to use "wrist control" than punches. In all the times I have applied what I have used in the dojo, it has never been a punch I have used.
The scenarios include subdueing drunks in emergency rooms, assertively getting rid of touts/etc who migh actually physically insert themselves between me and my partner, through to dealing with sleazy touch-ups in bars an on public transport.

Whilst a punch might be a more satisfying thing to deliver, it carries the risk of unintended consequences. SO for low level "I'm going to hold your arm, shoulder, or I'm going to be generally obnoxious" - I have actually found that the drills that start with a wrist grab have helped me. They do teach "wrist control" - and I haven't needed the gun. However, I would never advocate "wrist control" as a self-defence technique against a violent attack. I have just found these techniques to be a really good way of very firmly and physically saying "Look buddy, I might look like a soft target, but really....don't mess with me".....

I would just remind you lads that for a certain percentage of your students, self defence can be a lot more subtle (and more everyday pervasive) than street fighting.

Now back to silly - perhaps it is not silly in the hands of an amazingly skilled operator, but there is a technique that I have been taught called the "surfboard", which is basically to finish an encounter with your attacker lying on the ground on their belly, both their arms twisted up behind their head (Like a full nelson, but not quite), resulting in them arching their back to take pressure off their neck. It is called the "surfboard" because you sit on their back while you wait for the police to arrive....seriously..... Personally, I think I might just run away.

[Dent]

Osu!

Originally Posted by seienchin

there is a technique that I have been taught called the "surfboard", which is basically to finish an encounter with your attacker lying on the ground on their belly, both their arms twisted up behind their head (Like a full nelson, but not quite), resulting in them arching their back to take pressure off their neck. It is called the "surfboard" because you sit on their back while you wait for the police to arrive....seriously.....

You didn't learn that in Jiu-Jutsu class, did you? Sounds awfully familiar!

Osu!

[chen3141]

Originally Posted by tmd

Chen, been thinking about this, this morning, think it's still a valid thing to teach kids as being grabbed or lead away could be seen as a valid first strike? Whan I might do is when we next do, to make it more realistic is make it a pull rather than a grab as pulling them forward or making them do it walking would be more realistic.

For kids it would be somewhat realistic, but once they get older a fight never begins with grab by wrist. Its almost always they get up in your face, then either push you then throw a hook, or just throw a hook from where they are. Even kumite starts really far back for self defense. Theres usually no space between you and your attacker.