Silliest ever self-defence technique

[tmd]

Originally Posted by seienchin

It might be different for men, but my personal experience is that I am more likely to use "wrist control" than punches.

I'm sorry if I'm missing something here Seienchin but we were talking about the aggressor starting with the grab not it being our initial defensive move.

[Dent]

Osu! TMD,

I think Seienchin is saying that if she uses it, then others may too.

Osu!

[tmd]

OOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!

Silliest tech in Mas Oyama's book has to be Tobacco-geri - kicking a cigarette from someones mouth. Genuie note from the book: Tobacco-geri must be performed so quickly that the person does not notice it's gone, While practicing this, you should be careful not to kick the other person's stomach(?) nose or jaw.

There's also Booshi geri (great name) - kicking off a hat on the same page, did he have a sense of humour or what!

[seienchin]

A timely reminder not to fall into the MA trap of taking ourselves too seriously...There have been times when I have been sorely tempted to "tobacco geri"....

[supergroup7]

I guess if everyone practiced "Tabacco geri" on you each time you lit up a cigarette that this would be a great incentive to quit smoking.

But I doubt that I'd want to go around in public practicing my Booshi geri... far too many hats being worn in the summer, and well, toques are near impossible to kick off of a head in the winter.

[jcc]

Originally Posted by tmd

OOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!

Silliest tech in Mas Oyama's book has to be Tobacco-geri - kicking a cigarette from someones mouth. Genuie note from the book: Tobacco-geri must be performed so quickly that the person does not notice it's gone, While practicing this, you should be careful not to kick the other person's stomach(?) nose or jaw.

There's also Booshi geri (great name) - kicking off a hat on the same page, did he have a sense of humour or what!

Osu! tmd,

Just had another look at that and it is listed under "Special Training Exercises" so maybe only meant for demos, impressing friends, etc.

The self-defense section is actually quite funny, mainly due to the way the people were dressed! In a few pictures the aggressor is always wearing dodgy shades, that alone deserving a good "kick in the testicles" as a lot of the exercises recommend!

[Aunty Ichigeki]

Originally Posted by chen3141

For kids it would be somewhat realistic, but once they get older a fight never begins with grab by wrist. Its almost always they get up in your face, then either push you then throw a hook, or just throw a hook from where they are. Even kumite starts really far back for self defense. Theres usually no space between you and your attacker.

I think that's true for blokes but self defence for women is a different story. A simple wrist release would have come in handy a few times when I was young, drunk & teetering around on 3 inch heels. An important aspect of self defence is the importance of staying where people are, not letting yourself be dragged into a car or park & young women can be a bit reticent about making a scene - they may feel silly and be unsure if the situation is safe or not so they let themselves be lead away. Whether that leads to a fun or bad situation is pretty much a matter of luck!

[Tettsui]

I was just thinking...wouldn't a road flare be a really good self defense weapon? It's ultra bright for attention and you have a flame shooting out the end if they want to fight. No one likes being on fire.

[Nix]

Good thinking, Tettsui. Plus it should be considered legal.

[supergroup7]

Tettsui, I've never used a road flare before, is it possible to burn oneself, or to catch oneself on fire by holding it? How long will it send forth fire?

[jcc]

Osu! That´s quite a funny idea! You see them being set off at football matches all the time, but I don´t think thats anything to do with self-defense

[chen3141]

Originally Posted by supergroup7

Tettsui, I've never used a road flare before, is it possible to burn oneself, or to catch oneself on fire by holding it? How long will it send forth fire?

On the side its printed "Flame comes out here"

[DaveHath]

Well, it would could be tomeo nage in response to a lapel grab..or any of the over the top resposes to a lapel grap or push......I mean breaking the neck and killing a person for grabbing your shirt? Why not stomp their toes...and a quick uppercut?

Oh, I almost forgot.....All of the techniques that defend against the dreaded handshake attack!!!!! Now why would I apply an armbar or even worse a break or shoulder thow to the poor guy who just wanted to shake my hand?

[seienchin]

Originally Posted by DaveHath

Well, it would could be tomeo nage in response to a lapel grab..or any of the over the top resposes to a lapel grap or push......I mean breaking the neck and killing a person for grabbing your shirt? Why not stomp their toes...and a quick uppercut?

Originally Posted by DaveHath

Oh, I almost forgot.....All of the techniques that defend against the dreaded handshake attack!!!!! Now why would I apply an armbar or even worse a break or shoulder thow to the poor guy who just wanted to shake my hand?

Indeed DaveHath...you make a good point. Overkill (in fact, any kill) is difficult to defend in court!!!!

[tmd]

Awareness is the key; do they want to shake your hand or have control over your strongest weapon while they head butt you or similar.

[DaveHath]

Originally Posted by tmd

Awareness is the key; do they want to shake your hand or have control over your strongest weapon while they head butt you or similar.

Yes, awareness is key.......and if I think someone is suspect then......I am not shaking their hand....Though I have thought of a few uses for these techniques...most of them involve encounters with sales types.......

[Aunty Ichigeki]

At a recent self defence seminar the instructor demonstrated how, when he was bouncing & had to remove a patron he'd approach the person in a super friendly way & offer his hand. He said most drunk guys (I'm omitting the cultural references but it's probably true some cultures more than others) would take his hand by instinct. Once he had their hand he'd whack on a turkey grip & walk them out the door.

[seienchin]

Originally Posted by Aunty Ichigeki

At a recent self defence seminar the instructor demonstrated how, when he was bouncing & had to remove a patron he'd approach the person in a super friendly way & offer his hand. He said most drunk guys (I'm omitting the cultural references but it's probably true some cultures more than others) would take his hand by instinct. Once he had their hand he'd whack on a turkey grip & walk them out the door.

Hah - that's novel. It takes it from defence to offence. Far more likely scenario, actually.


Good one Aunty.

[BigAl]

The two that stick out most in my mind are kicking a gun or knife out of somebody's hands, and using the purple nurple as a viable self-defense technique.

[intwominds]

OUCH!
Cheeky Monkey