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Old 11-11-2011, 04:19 PM   #1
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Post Pornsaneh Sitmonchai - Leg Kick - Muay Thai Minute

Originally taken from: http://www.mymuaythai.com/archives/m...eh-sitmonchai/

Pornsaneh Sitmonchai is notorious for his leg kicks. He does not win by points much because of his fondness for leg kicks. Here he demonstrates his version of the kick.

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Old 11-11-2011, 04:46 PM   #2
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I would not enjoy getting kicked in the leg by that guy! Thanks for the vids Shokei
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Old 11-14-2011, 06:00 PM   #3
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Nice vids, thanks for posting!

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I would not enjoy getting kicked in the leg by that guy!
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Old 11-11-2011, 05:21 PM   #4
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Those look brutal...

I feel good knowing the same fundamental steps in his video are the same that I use in my class (targeting, lower, lower/pivot).

Thanks for the vids!

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Old 11-11-2011, 05:25 PM   #5
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I particularly like his explanation of distance utilizing the arms. Really drives home the importance of the jab and teep (front kick) as feelers and range finders.

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Old 11-11-2011, 05:44 PM   #6
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I particularly like his explanation of distance utilizing the arms.
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Yup, have to agree there!

I was also taught not to just throw the kick, but to use the arms, jab or combo to set it up.

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Old 11-11-2011, 05:49 PM   #7
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I particularly like his explanation of distance utilizing the arms. Really drives home the importance of the jab and teep (front kick) as feelers and range finders.
Thanks for sharing, SM. The instructional vid is a good reminder about the importance of range. I like the idea of unbalancing your opponent with the lead hand when he attempts a sune uke.
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Love it! Thanks for sharing!
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This is the bread and butter of Muay Thai...creating distance, unbalancing your opponent, and attacking. There is a huge emphasis of keeping your balance in Thai style Muay Thai, more so then I've seen in any other martial art. It's in other martial arts, no argument there, but I have never seen it as emphasized as it is in Muay Thai. However, that doesn't mean I'm wrong, I highly suspect it also has a place in Judo, as well.

What's remarkable is that you rarely ever see a Thai lose by way of "leg kick knock out." It's considered a bad way to lose in Thailand, not because you beat your opponent that way, but the average Thaiboxer is skilled enough to avoid having this happen to them...this says a lot about Pornsaneh's mastery of the technique.
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This is the bread and butter of Muay Thai...creating distance, unbalancing your opponent, and attacking. There is a huge emphasis of keeping your balance in Thai style Muay Thai, more so then I've seen in any other martial art. It's in other martial arts, no argument there, but I have never seen it as emphasized as it is in Muay Thai. However, that doesn't mean I'm wrong, I highly suspect it also has a place in Judo, as well.

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The most ironic thing is that as of late, so many non-Thai-trained (so-called) MT practitioners have atrocious balance, swinging their roundhouses, elbows, backhands, and combinations wildly thinking that they've captured the "raw power of Muay Thai" or some silly BS like that. It's like some terrible caricature of precisely what you described as the essence of real MT.

... And yes, creating distance, unbalancing the opponent, and attacking while keeping your own balance is just WEE bit emphasized in Judo.
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The most ironic thing is that as of late, so many non-Thai-trained (so-called) MT practitioners have atrocious balance, swinging their roundhouses, elbows, backhands, and combinations wildly thinking that they've captured the "raw power of Muay Thai" or some silly BS like that. It's like some terrible caricature of precisely what you described as the essence of real MT.

... And yes, creating distance, unbalancing the opponent, and attacking while keeping your own balance is just WEE bit emphasized in Judo.
I don't consider myself a judoka, but from what I know of Judo I only imagined this was also important in Judo .

For a striking art, I haven't seen balance emphasized as much as it is in Muay Thai. I'm not saying it's not important in karate, but it's not emphasized as much as it is in the Muay Thai I have learned.

I don't know where this silly do a 360 spin after you miss your roundhouse gained popularity as a "Muay Thai thing" to do? Every Thai I've trained under yells at you if you do such a stupid move. I found this out the hard way the first time I was shadow boxing under Thai trainers 10 years ago or so and would do this, they started yelling at me and told me to never expose my back LOL.

I agree with you, far too many dojo/gyms in westernized countries that claim to teach Muay Thai don't know it. I'll never even claim to teach Muay Thai anymore, myself, but I will teach techniques and strategies I learned while in Muay Thai...but I incorporate a lot of other techniques as well.

Unfortunately, I think it's hard to teach authentic Muay Thai to the average hobbyist, at least in my own experience trying to do so. To me, to really do Muay Thai requires a good 5-6 days a week of training it..at least 2 hours each session under an experienced instructor. Good pad holders don't grow on trees...*sigh*...life would be much easier if they did.
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Great vids,Notice he mostly right leg kicks after a left hand punch.Same theory as a punch?the retreating arm gives power to the punching arm.OSS
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Good pad holders don't grow on trees...*sigh*...life would be much easier if they did.
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QFT! A good pad holder is more than worth his weight in gold! I remember when I first started MT, Bunkerd was wise enough to teach us n00bs how to hold the pads. It seems like such a simple thing to do, yet so few ever do go over it. Of course, being taught is one thing, being able to do it consistently under a barrage of strikes and against your own fatigue -- well, that goes back to my comment about the worth of a good pad holder!
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QFT! A good pad holder is more than worth his weight in gold! I remember when I first started MT, Bunkerd was wise enough to teach us n00bs how to hold the pads. It seems like such a simple thing to do, yet so few ever do go over it. Of course, being taught is one thing, being able to do it consistently under a barrage of strikes and against your own fatigue -- well, that goes back to my comment about the worth of a good pad holder!
Man oh man I agree with this statement. Focus is a huge plus with a pad holder as well as strength and conditioning. I know how working with an erratic striker can wear you down as you ar always waiting and reaching to assist.

That said, I find it easier to work with a more experienced individual who sets a rhythm to work with. Its a work out but much more tolerable!
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Thanks for sharing, was great and also good to see it in a fight.
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Another great example of the low kick by Tongchai. Great setup with the elbow to deliver the final blow at 4:51.

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Another great example of the low kick by Tongchai. Great setup with the elbow to deliver the final blow at 4:51.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5MSuNt50bA
Nice match! Tongchai's opponent didn't play such a smart strategy chasing with the knees when Tongchai was using the low kicks to ward him off like that.
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Nice match! Tongchai's opponent didn't play such a smart strategy chasing with the knees when Tongchai was using the low kicks to ward him off like that.
I think his opponent believed in his own hype that no leg kick can hurt him . Seriously though, this is part of the "Thaiboxing mentality," for every step back, take two steps forward, that you're more or less invincible. I will say this way of thinking can work to a point but if you fight enough like this, it will catch up to you...I'd say many of us in knockdown karate styles have the same mentality at times, too.

I agree with you, why not teep if you have an opponent that's going to keep banging away at your legs?
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I think his opponent believed in his own hype that no leg kick can hurt him . Seriously though, this is part of the "Thaiboxing mentality," for every step back, take two steps forward, that you're more or less invincible. I will say this way of thinking can work to a point but if you fight enough like this, it will catch up to you...I'd say many of us in knockdown karate styles have the same mentality at times, too.

I agree with you, why not teep if you have an opponent that's going to keep banging away at your legs?
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Osu! Seems like many full contact martial artists have the same mentality haha!
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I don't know where this silly do a 360 spin after you miss your roundhouse gained popularity as a "Muay Thai thing" to do? Every Thai I've trained under yells at you if you do such a stupid move.
Ever get the swift kick in the lower back? Far faster than explaining the why not, and no need for English!

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