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[asdrubalex]

Hey all!

So yesterday we were having a bout of kumite in the Dojyo. I was sparring with my Blue belt senpai (he is one kyuu above me), but generally I don`t like him because overall I think he has bad manner (as in, he doesn`t really notice the little mannerisms, like greeting in obi-jun, etc, and he has been there 4 months more than me) and is sometimes very vindicative? during kumite.. I can`t explain.


Anyways, during kumite I always try and gauge how hard the opponent is hitting and try to keep my pace to that, I realise we all have different paces, speeds, we are all different ages, etc., so I keep that in mind. of course, I am a low 9 kyuu, so I am by no means an expert, but I would like to think that I do my best.

anyhoos, This guy just hits hard no matter what, even if the sensei says "practice connecting and speed rather than force " or whatever.

but at the same time he is kinda slow (a heavy smoker!) and has no stamina, so whereas yes he does have quite a-lot of force behind his punches they are all easily avoidable and easy to react and counter-attack to. Which is why, also as respect as he is older and above me, I try to keep it simple with him.

I know i sound could of concieted, and I try and push these negative thoughts out of me, but sometimes I can`t.

Anyhoos, so we were doing kumite yesterday and this guy who used to box years and years ago, punched me in the face! He`s had a history of this during a competition where he punched someone in the face and got disqualified.

I narrowly blocked it by deflecting it to the side of my face, and i suppose it is good practice to get a hit you don`t expect because you know it "won t be coming due to the rules" but I expected this guy to apologise. When he didn`t. So I kind of lost it and immediately upped my kumite pace, hitting hard and fast and where he didn`t expect.


Is it bad it made me feel good?

Should I have said something? What would you guys do?

:/


Osu!

[seienchin]

I was visiting a dojo last week, and there was a kumite session. I was sparring with a nidan, who was very fast, and came in a lot harder that I was expecting for friendly kumite. She punched me in the face twice. I am absolutely confident that this was just the result of too much adrenaline, and going a bit over the top to "prove" herself.

After the first one, I just made a mental note, but after the second one, I changed the way I was fighting to a "face punches are on the menu" distance and stance. I didn't see any point in escalating it, I just changed my defensive approach. There is rarely benefit in escalating. You hit him harder, so he hits you harder, so he hits you harder. Where does it stop? With one of you in hospital? Did it occur to you to ask him why he punched you in the face?

[asdrubalex]

Originally Posted by seienchin

I was visiting a dojo last week, and there was a kumite session. I was sparring with a nidan, who was very fast, and came in a lot harder that I was expecting for friendly kumite. She punched me in the face twice. I am absolutely confident that this was just the result of too much adrenaline, and going a bit over the top to "prove" herself.

After the first one, I just made a mental note, but after the second one, I changed the way I was fighting to a "face punches are on the menu" distance and stance. I didn't see any point in escalating it, I just changed my defensive approach. There is rarely benefit in escalating. You hit him harder, so he hits you harder, so he hits you harder. Where does it stop? With one of you in hospital? Did it occur to you to ask him why he punched you in the face?

You are right. I did change my stance and pace in the respect that I avoided being within his distance, but I guess the lack of manner is something that really annoys me. And also, seeing as he is above me I find it difficult to "tell him off".

Having said that, I really wasn`t hitting him any harder than he hit me: I was just hitting harder than I do usually!

[FredInChina]

Originally Posted by asdrubalex

(...) the lack of manner is something that really annoys me (...)

Hummm... "lack of manners" is not easy to address (sometimes, it is not easy to even define!)
Maybe your best course is to ignore him, and let others more experienced deal with it... the dojo is hardly the place for an "educational beatdown"


Osu!

[slaine]

I wouldn't overreact too much about the face punch as it is kinda what we do , I know it's against our '' rules '' as regards tournaments and sparring but it does no harm to get hit in the face now and again as it gives you a feel for what it's like if it ever '' really '' happens , as to his bad attitude and manners well I'm sure if you've noticed it so have other students and it won't be long before your instructor knows about it to but don't feel because your a 9th kyu you can't say it to somebody , you can always go to your instructor to talk about things but if you don't feel comfortable doing that go to any of your senior grades I'm sure they'd be only too willing to help .

[Spike]

I have come across this in the past, some times what is perceived as bad manners is in some cases a lack of knowledge in Dojo etiquette.
I always say OSU! When caught out with a good technique or if I hit someone to hard or catch them in the knee or face I apologise.
You must say something or he will not learn. if that fails then he needs to be taught a lesson, possibly by the higher grades if you know what i'am saying OSU!

[SteveK]

Nothing wrong with feeling good about standing up for yourself - in fact I think you might find the more you stand up for yourself the less often it will occur if it is intentional - just make sure it finished there though and next time you start again with a clean sheet

:-)

[Havamal]

Originally Posted by asdrubalex

Hey all!

So yesterday we were having a bout of kumite in the Dojyo. I was sparring with my Blue belt senpai (he is one kyuu above me), but generally I don`t like him because overall I think he has bad manner (as in, he doesn`t really notice the little mannerisms, like greeting in obi-jun, etc, and he has been there 4 months more than me) and is sometimes very vindicative? during kumite.. I can`t explain.


Anyways, during kumite I always try and gauge how hard the opponent is hitting and try to keep my pace to that, I realise we all have different paces, speeds, we are all different ages, etc., so I keep that in mind. of course, I am a low 9 kyuu, so I am by no means an expert, but I would like to think that I do my best.

anyhoos, This guy just hits hard no matter what, even if the sensei says "practice connecting and speed rather than force " or whatever.

but at the same time he is kinda slow (a heavy smoker!) and has no stamina, so whereas yes he does have quite a-lot of force behind his punches they are all easily avoidable and easy to react and counter-attack to. Which is why, also as respect as he is older and above me, I try to keep it simple with him.

I know i sound could of concieted, and I try and push these negative thoughts out of me, but sometimes I can`t.

Anyhoos, so we were doing kumite yesterday and this guy who used to box years and years ago, punched me in the face! He`s had a history of this during a competition where he punched someone in the face and got disqualified.

I narrowly blocked it by deflecting it to the side of my face, and i suppose it is good practice to get a hit you don`t expect because you know it "won t be coming due to the rules" but I expected this guy to apologise. When he didn`t. So I kind of lost it and immediately upped my kumite pace, hitting hard and fast and where he didn`t expect.


Is it bad it made me feel good?

Should I have said something? What would you guys do?

:/


Osu!

Just hit as hard as your partners can stand it without causing injury and expect the same sincere kindness...and think of nothing else: breath & move. When they hit you hard, see that as a compliment and be grateful, like "thank you, may i have another!"