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[Daibutsu]

Osu,

I have been training the past months for 5 times a week and doing daily push-ups, sit-ups and whatnot, running etc., but for me to become better and more fit I need to have a proper diet. I'm overweight and this is probably due to my nutrition. I've been getting wider because of my muscles and extensive training, now for my tummy!

I'm 1m95 and weigh 112kg. I need to find a way to lose weight, help me please. I want that sixpack!

Hopefully you guys can help me.

[Ros]

Look at Sandman's advice here:

http://www.kyokushin4life.com/forums...highlight=diet

it's sound.

Other than that, don't listen to anyone who tells you to eliminate whole food groups.

[FredInChina]

Osu,


Have you any idea what your % body fat is?
You've been training hard for a month ... you likely put on muscle and reduced fat, the scale won't tell you, and the mirror only reveals the goodies at the very end...

I am not a dietitian, but the bases work like this:
- eat smaller portions more often.
- scrap the junk food (potato chips, sodas, beer, etc...) [edit: keep the whole foods... ]
- eat more fruits and veggies.
- high intensity exercise in the morning to ramp up the metabolism for the whole day. (KB swings, stair work, hill sprints, burpees, etc... all the fun stuff!)
- take ice baths (LOL, but I am not completely joking here... )

Back to your %BF: you are probably improving your body composition with what you are doing, but unless you start measuring, you won't know it.

Don't be in a hurry, patience and consistency are IMHO healthier than losing 20 pounds of fat and 10 pounds of muscle in a month.

Set a target - maybe not in weight (as you are putting muscle on), but in waist size, maybe?


OSu!

[tmd]

Find a diet you can stick to, one that you see measurable gains from but that does not leave you short on energy. Too often people go to hard to fast to try and drop weight too fast and end up feeling down and low and crave the bad stuff as they know it will give them an instant hit.

[senshido]

There is also tmd's red wine diet

[BoSanAc]

Fred Kinda sumed it up...

You want to make sure your getting enough food tho and calories.. A female should have a minimum of 1500 calories a day meanwhile a male its 1700. if you go below this your actually lacking nutrients and hurting your body.

Now if you really want to loose weight you can aim for 1800-2000 calories a day. What you should do tho is make sure that its coming from "healty good calories" but at same time you want to get enought of carbs, protine etc.

Try to change your life style too, try to eat grilled stuff, baked etc and avoide oily greasy fried goods, avoide salt because it maked you retain water.. alot of our veggies and foods already have sodium on its own, eat alot of veggies, whole grain products etc..

CUT OUT junk food.. chips cookies, ice cream all that crap, instead of Ice cream have low fat frozen yogurt, instead of regular cheese have reduced fat cheese etc

you kinda get the idea. Its really has to become a lifestyle more then a diet.

[Spirit]

Read this book
http://www.naturalcures.com/

He does get a bit (several chapters bit) on conspiracies with food, the government, and stuff....

But if you can get past that he really has some great advice and many great facts and sites to help you re-balance your weight, and life

Note it is all based on Organic living and eating with no drugs

Mark

[Ros]

Originally Posted by Spirit

Read this book
http://www.naturalcures.com/

Judging from some of the quotes on his webpage, i.e.:

A Russian cure for breast cancer, completely eliminates the cancer in 30 days, 87% of the time.

A cure for obesity was discovered by a British medical doctor in 1959. You can lose up to 45 pounds in 30 days and the weight never comes back!

I would have thought it fairly obvious that he is a complete shyster and my advice would be to avoid him like the plague!

[pandorasvise]

eat lots of plants and some animals. Chew slowly!!! When you tink you are hungry, drink some water, in 10 or 15 minutes if you are still hungry, then eat. Get rid of the mircowave so all your food has to be thought about and made with care. Don't eat in front of the TV or read while eating.

http://www.primal30daychallenge.com/...ke-part-2.html

[FredInChina]

Originally Posted by pandorasvise

(...) Don't (...) read while eating. (...)

Hummmmmm, why not?


Osu!

[Spirit]

He does get a bit (several chapters bit) on conspiracies with food, the government, and stuff....

But if you can get past that he really has some great advice and many great facts and sites to help you re-balance your weight, and life

Originally Posted by Ros

Judging from some of the quotes on his webpage, i.e.:

A Russian cure for breast cancer, completely eliminates the cancer in 30 days, 87% of the time.

A cure for obesity was discovered by a British medical doctor in 1959. You can lose up to 45 pounds in 30 days and the weight never comes back!

I would have thought it fairly obvious that he is a complete shyster and my advice would be to avoid him like the plague!

No need to shout ...

Each to their own.

Gary

[Ros]

Originally Posted by Spirit

He does get a bit (several chapters bit) on conspiracies with food, the government, and stuff....

But if you can get past that he really has some great advice and many great facts and sites to help you re-balance your weight, and life

Yes, dear, I heard you the first time. However, why would you suggest a book where you have to separate the BS from the 'great advice?' Judging from some of the things I've read on his website, if he told me two and two made four, I'd probably want to double check. I personally would not advocate anyone lining the coffers of such an obvious quack and charlatan, however 'great' a small part of his advice may be.

In fact, I would suggest not giving anyone your money for diet advice; check out the advice of charities such as the British Heart Foundation, for example: http://www.bhf.org.uk/heart-health/p...hy-eating.aspx

[yordan]

Originally Posted by Ros

Look at Sandman's advice here:

http://www.kyokushin4life.com/forums...highlight=diet

it's sound.

Other than that, don't listen to anyone who tells you to eliminate whole food groups.

OSU
Ros,

Are you an expert in dieting and nutrition, and if not how can you say "Other than that, don't listen to anyone who tells you to eliminate whole food groups. " without being way too general?? Please justify your advise without just generalizing. Also who says that diets that eliminate whole food groups don't work? I can give you examples of diets that do just that, and work as a miracle in fat loss, muscle gain, and overall getting into a better shape.

OSU

[sandman]

Originally Posted by yordan

OSU
Ros,

Are you an expert in dieting and nutrition, and if not how can you say "Other than that, don't listen to anyone who tells you to eliminate whole food groups. " without being way too general?? Please justify your advise without just generalizing. Also who says that diets that eliminate whole food groups don't work? I can give you examples of diets that do just that, and work as a miracle in fat loss, muscle gain, and overall getting into a better shape.

OSU

If I understand her statement correctly, I agree with Ros about not leaving out whole food groups. I believe by whole food groups she means:

1) fruits and veggies
2) grains
3) proteins
4) fats

(or something along those lines - some people may categorize them a little bit differently, but you get the idea)

While there are a lot of competing opinions about the benefits of of some specific foods within those groups, it would be a bad idea to eliminate any of the groups entirely.

[harukaze]

Originally Posted by yordan

OSU
Ros,

Are you an expert in dieting and nutrition, and if not how can you say "Other than that, don't listen to anyone who tells you to eliminate whole food groups. " without being way too general?? Please justify your advise without just generalizing. Also who says that diets that eliminate whole food groups don't work? I can give you examples of diets that do just that, and work as a miracle in fat loss, muscle gain, and overall getting into a better shape.

OSU

If you're referring to the Atkins Diet, you do know that it leads to increased instances of heart disease (the number killer of American men) despite seemingly miraculous weight loss.

[FredInChina]

LOL...

The targeted goal needs to be understood before we start yelling at each other...

IMHO, there is a distinction between fit & healthy; the OP wants a six-pack to be fit, in order to (cross the unwanted option) get the girls - feel good in the mirror - play cocky in the gym - get a job as a model - conform to California's dream - save money on new jeans...

He wants to be fit for something.

To reach a "fit" goal, some do not hesitate to undergo surgery, inject chemicals of doubtful origin directly into their blood stream, engineer nutrition deficiencies or excess, etc...

To be and remain healthy is a different battle: there are not as many overlaps with the search for fitness as commonly thought.


Osu!

[yordan]

OSU
Fred understood exactly what I meant. I meant that the goal for the dieting matters.
Case 1: I may be 150lb and want to gain weight, thus I would diet in a certain way.
Case 2: I may be 230lb and want to get into a 199lb fighting weight, thus I would diet in a different way than Case 1.
Case 3: I may be slightly overweight, and just want to look better for the girls, thus I would diet in an entirely different way than Case 1 or Case 2.

The goal is what sets the way to diet and it doesn't mean that this diet is healthy, nor does it mean that the latest diet will last a life time, and will cause bodily harm.
This latest diet, depending on the final goal, may eliminate whole food groups((as grains) and who said that grains are so good for us??)) but may also last only a month or two. If appropriate supplements are taken the harm, if there is any, should be minimal.
I wanted Ros to give examples, or to somehow back up his/her opinion with info and facts. Otherwise, this forum simply turns into "just listen to me, because I said so".

OSU

[powerof0ne]

Avoid carbs, increase protein intake,make sure to have some veggies/fruit every day, no soda or carbonated beverages at all(not even diet soda), and avoid fruit juice completely (eat a piece of fruit instead). Make sure to increase your water intake, and no need to starve yourself.

A nice filler is beans, which can be prepared a variety of ways with many different types of food, and beans are high in protein, fiber, and just good for you. You can even mash up beans..check out some of the 4 hour body recipes. This is about the only way I advocate the 4 hour body "diet." The rest of it, wasn't working for me in the long run but I know it has worked for others, very well.

Also avoid alcohol completely or as much as possible....this one used to be very hard for me to do. Now I go a month or longer at a time without a beer

Stick to those simple guide lines and you'll lose weight. I've done the atkins diet, and as much as I'd love to believe eating a bunch of meat and cheese is a good way to lose weight, it can't be good for you. I've done the 4 hour body way of life for a bit, but after 3 straight weeks of being on it, it was very hard for me to get "full." Not every diet is good for everybody but I believe if you stick to the guide lines I pointed out, the weight will come off. Weight will come off quicker as long as you're working out, doing karate, and anything physical.
Osu!

I lost 6kgs cutting DOWN (not out) grains and dairy. I feel good on it.

Mind you, at weekends I treat myself. Life's too short to live like a monk.

Gary