10-01-2006, 03:05 PM
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sosai Oyama's challenge fights/ 300 man kumite???
OSU.
brothers, i was wondering, we've always heard of Sosai Oyama's legendary 300 man kumite & his famous & daring 270 challenge fights & wins... well, wat i wanna know is, whom all did Sosai fight in his gruelling 300 man kumite & his 270 challenge fights...? after all those guys must have got some real guts & veins of iron to even dare to fight Sosai Oyama.
in case of Sosai's 300 man kumite -
1. who all did he face (atleast names of some of those real great karateka).
2. what were their ranks at that time?
in case of Sosai' 270 challenge fights -
1. what were the names of the challengers?
2. what were their ranks & styles (in case they were martial artists) OR
what was their ring record (in case they were boxers or wrestlers)?
3. what was the specific outcome of these fights?
i am not expecting complete information about these legendary fights, but atleast some information bout this topic may put some light into this matter. i hope everyone will help me solve this mystery. OSU.
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10-03-2006, 01:58 AM
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Good luck finding the names of 300 Japanese karateka's from 60 years ago....
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10-03-2006, 02:27 AM
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Osu ronin,
That would really be interesting to reconstruct. Those who took part in the 300 man kumite and 270 challenge are of important historical note considering they were part of the 1st and only 300 man kumite and first 270 challenge.
Those who could help kindly assist reconstruct these fighters information.
Thanks much.
Osu!
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10-04-2006, 08:00 PM
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it is said that Sosai Oyama fought a Thai fighter known as Black Cobra in 1954. Not sure if that's true or not. Haven't seen any footage or photographs.
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10-04-2006, 11:14 PM
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Sosai Mas Oyama chose the strongest students in his dojo, who were to fight him one at a time until they'd all had a turn, and then they'd start from the beginning again, until the three hundred rounds were up. He defeated them all, never wavering in his resolve, despite the fact that he himself suffered severe physical injury in the process.
Each student had to face him about four times over the three days, though some never made it past the first day due to Oyama's powerful blows. Legend even has it that Oyama was willing to go for a FOURTH day, but no one else was willing or able! This took place no long after he had completed his mountain training.
Taken from: www.masutatsuoyama.com
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10-07-2006, 07:52 PM
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07-15-2007, 01:03 PM
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07-17-2007, 01:34 PM
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I always heard it as the 100 man kumite. I gues he did both.
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07-17-2007, 05:58 PM
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Osu! Mas Oyama's feat is truly awesome. No one else has ever attempted this. Most of the top masters and students of today stop at 50 or 100 man kumite. If one is to do 100 man kumite for 3 days straight, one would have to make sure to ice and used enough pain liniment as possible otherwise one would severely cramp up and tighten up the next morning from the damage sustained the previous day. Even simple tasks like putting on one's clothes and taking them off or sitting down and get up off a toilet would seem like a task in itself. I know this from personal experience after taking my Shodan test. And this was only the equivalent of a 20-30 man kumite.
Now you can only imagine.
As far as killing of the 40 something bulls. The very fact that a human being can kill a wild animal is impressive enough. However, those bulls that Oyama killed looked very sickly and malnourished and of the Asian stock. I would have like to have seen Mas Oyama take on a Texas Long Horn, a Cape Buffalo or one of those Prairie bulls on the rodeo scene. Now that would have been something.
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07-18-2007, 02:01 PM
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I think that if he was alive he could probably take them.
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07-18-2007, 02:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 49ers1970
As far as killing of the 40 something bulls. The very fact that a human being can kill a wild animal is impressive enough. However, those bulls that Oyama killed looked very sickly and malnourished and of the Asian stock. I would have like to have seen Mas Oyama take on a Texas Long Horn, a Cape Buffalo or one of those Prairie bulls on the rodeo scene. Now that would have been something.
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He didnt kill 40 bulls. He defeated them (52 according to the stories) by wrestled them down and chopped off their horns with a knifehand. a very few of them died (atleast one from broken neck when it fell) or had to be slaughtered afterwards. The first 2-3 he "fought" was secured and used as basically makiwaras for him to punch on. He didnt manage to kill any but he did manage to crack the bone in the skulls.
There is only one movie of a bull being defeated that I know of, and in that it is a small japanese breed bull.
He defeated atleast one in mexico at a demo there (using a locally provided bull). There are no film or photo of that one though.
A few other was also done outside of japan, all using locally provided animals.
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07-19-2007, 09:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by koji112091
I think that if he was alive he could probably take them.
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I dont think this is something i want to see being put up for discussion or something.
Osu
Ksan
(P.s. this is not meant as offence to you koji-san)
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07-19-2007, 10:34 PM
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I agree with K-San. There are a lot of "what if" questions pertaining to Sosai that should not be addressed.
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07-19-2007, 11:25 PM
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When a bull has a ring in the nose is easyer to control. I've seen many country ppl in Romania handling bulls like that. They did not fight with them but sometimes things get rough.
Still, it is a big animal and one needs to be very strong and skilled to put them down empty handed.
I think we should learn from the challenge not from the actual bull fight.
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09-11-2008, 09:17 AM
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i was going to be in this but decided since i was minus 40 i couldnt
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09-11-2008, 09:28 AM
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He did once go to spain to face those fierce bulls over there.
One bull he made a mistake and the bull struck him on the chest which nearly killed him. Luckily he survived but was hospitalised for a long time.
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06-25-2009, 11:59 PM
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Sosei Mas Oyama fought 52 bulls, killed 3.
fought many bulls around the world then one day in mexico he got horned by the bull i think it was by the stomach.. nyways with a horn in his body he still managed to brake the other one with the shuto .. i mean that has to be the craziest thing i'v heard in my life and wow. But had to stay in a hospital for 6 months
some think it was in spain but no.. research it or go to masoyama's website
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02-14-2010, 03:35 PM
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I belive that Sosai done it. There's no way that Sosai would lie just to get the fame.
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02-15-2010, 12:38 AM
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most of the feats we hear about from famous martial artists get exaggerated.
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02-15-2010, 01:17 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SHIDOKANATLANTA
most of the feats we hear about from famous martial artists get exaggerated.
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True - and by extension from all heroes & warriors since the beginning of recorded history: Hercules, Jason, Achilles, Ulysses, etc...
But, you know what, everybody needs a hero! so it is probably a good thing in the end...
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