02-24-2012, 04:31 AM
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Topic for 1 of my 2 essays for Shodan grading
Osu everyone, well as you have read in a previous post, my shodan grading is approaching. Training is going well, struggling with some things and not others...but not stressing, just practising.
Shihan has given me 2 topics for essays I must complete. 1 being "describing my goal in the martial arts,where I want to be and what I see myself doing and the reality of where I am now and what I am doing" . The 2nd however I would value some help from senior karatekas here.
"research the four sicknesses of martial arts and describe how you approach each of these in your personal training"
I have found an article, "The luxury of Anger" by Dave Lowry [ http://www.koryu.com/library/dlowry9.html], which is insightful but now I need to understand some more. but I would really appreciate your views to each of yourselves to help me understand myself...does that sound weird???
Look forward to reading your views, feelings or comments.
Really looking forward to Ashihara kaicho, Fredinchina, Dent, seienchin etc commenting :-)
Osu
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02-24-2012, 06:33 AM
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The four sickness of MA?
What are they?
- delusion
- aggression
- Personality cult
- multiple identity disorder
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02-24-2012, 11:04 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FredInChina
The four sickness of MA?
What are they?
- delusion
- aggression
- Personality cult
- multiple identity disorder
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Osu Fred, I just knew I could rely on you LOL!!!
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02-24-2012, 11:07 AM
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Osu!
Can't go wrong with either pride, or anger. Those two affect us all.
I'm interested in the purpose of the essay, GC33. What is the goal here?
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02-24-2012, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Dent
Osu!
Can't go wrong with either pride, or anger. Those two affect us all.
I'm interested in the purpose of the essay, GC33. What is the goal here?
Osu!
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Is it the same as in the hachidan examn for kendo? Where the essay is a key factor in deciding if the candidate is ready for the grade?
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02-24-2012, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Dent
(...) Can't go wrong with either pride, or anger. Those two affect us all (...)
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Indeed, these are common emotions, but are they sickness?
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research the four sicknesses of martial arts
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The way the subject is formulated, it seems like the requests implies that these 4 sicknesses are well known and common...
It also seems like there are only 4 and that they are very specific to MAs...
Hummmm..... has anyone heard of THE 4 sickness of martial arts? 
What are they?
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02-24-2012, 04:44 PM
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gc33
Personally,
You should be doing your own research on this, not asking someone for help.
The paper is part of your test and like the physical part of the test no one is their to help you... It is all you and only you who passes the test based on what you have done over the years and the day of the test.
The paper should be no different.
Be proud of your work and do your own research and write it without help from others who already have done this or have direct knowledge in it.
Just my 2 cents....
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02-24-2012, 08:19 PM
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The purpose of an "essay" as I understand it is for your seniors ie sensei Shihans etc to see how you are thinking at the given level. There is no right or wrong answers. The question I have posted here is just an interesting one, I am wrong t as in asking anyone for their help and I apologise for that,more seeing how you think on these sort of questions. Spirits comment is bang on the money....
fre, The four "sicknesses" of martial arts as seen by the old swordsman of Japan are : Fear, Doubt,worry and Surprise.......now im just soul searching, and contemplating on how these are or do affect me. So far each and every one of them fit in leading up to my shodan...LOL!
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02-24-2012, 08:40 PM
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I believe that the concept of the 4 sicknesses comes from Kendo ( The Way of the Sword). They are related to the 3 methods of killing: Kill the Sword, Kill the Waza ( technique), Kill the Spirit. I encourage you to do some searching in the Kendo Martial Arts books towards finding facts about your essay topic.
I would look towards the "Book of 5 Rings" Written by Miyamoto Mushashi for inspiration towards strategy, and sword training. You can read the book at this website: http://samuraiconsulting.ca/5rings/
As for what I believe the 4 sicknesses translates to in Kyokushin IE: Fear, Doubt, Worry, and Surprise This would be when we "unbalance" our opponent.. or in other words, when we use Kuzushi.
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02-24-2012, 08:44 PM
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Osu,
Oh boy - that is a tough one - ours is not so tough.
For shodan
The candidate must write an essay of between 1 to 3 pages (450 -800 words) on what it means "On becoming Shodan".
For Nidan
The candidate must write an essay of between 1 to 3 pages (450 -800 words) on the philosophy of the Martial Arts, especially those of Ashihara Karate.
For Sandan
The candidate must write an essay of between 1 to 3 pages (450 -800 words) on "What it means to become a Sensei".
PS - Please see http://www.ashiharakarate.org/html/articles.html for two essays written around 1996
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02-25-2012, 04:07 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by supergroup7
I believe that the concept of the 4 sicknesses comes from Kendo ( The Way of the Sword). They are related to the 3 methods of killing: Kill the Sword, Kill the Waza ( technique), Kill the Spirit. I encourage you to do some searching in the Kendo Martial Arts books towards finding facts about your essay topic.
I would look towards the "Book of 5 Rings" Written by Miyamoto Mushashi for inspiration towards strategy, and sword training. You can read the book at this website: http://samuraiconsulting.ca/5rings/
As for what I believe the 4 sicknesses translates to in Kyokushin IE: Fear, Doubt, Worry, and Surprise This would be when we "unbalance" our opponent.. or in other words, when we use Kuzushi.
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Osu, already reading the book of 5 rings...AGAIN :-) Doesnt matter how many times you read this, there is always something to take from it. That and Sun Tzu's art of war.
Not so much just from Kendo...but the Japanese swordsman in general. An interesting story coming from an old Black belt magazine highlighting the surprise sickness... http://books.google.com.au/books?id=...20arts&f=false also by Dave Lowry is an interesting read.
Again, there is no right or wrong answer as everyone is different. It has certainly got me thinking about my own "sicknesses" and how they affect me both in karate and in general life...
Osu
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02-26-2012, 05:15 PM
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my quick answer would be 1) ego 2) ego 3) ego 4)ego
good luck with your promotion.
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02-26-2012, 05:19 PM
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I think you better stress on other aspects of physical training than writing the essay.
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02-26-2012, 06:15 PM
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I think you better stress on other aspects of physical training than writing the essay.
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Hummmmm, why?
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02-26-2012, 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by SKohai
I think you better stress on other aspects of physical training than writing the essay.
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I think GC33's physical condition sounds very hard to beat. Balance between mind, body and spirit seems a valid goal.
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02-27-2012, 04:33 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gc33
(...) There is no right or wrong answers (...)
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Yeah, right!
That's what she said before disaster stroke!
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Originally Posted by supergroup7
(...) Kill the Sword, Kill the Waza, Kill the Spirit.
(...) Fear, Doubt, Worry, and Surprise (...)
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Thank you for that SG7
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02-27-2012, 08:38 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dent
Osu!
I think GC33's physical condition sounds very hard to beat. Balance between mind, body and spirit seems a valid goal.
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when the physical body gives out, the mind takes over....its what you do with the mind that keeps the body going...spirit of Osu...persistence!! NEVER give up.i know that no matter how physically fit I can be, shihan will find the weak points, be it mental or physical and just wear me down until there is nothing left except my mind and spirit...if I were superman, he would have a piece of kryptonite waiting..
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02-27-2012, 11:42 AM
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if I were superman, he would have a piece of kryptonite waiting...
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So your Shihan is Lex Luthor with an Australian accent?
It's all becoming clear to me now........
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02-27-2012, 08:28 PM
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Osu!
So your Shihan is Lex Luthor with an Australian accent?
It's all becoming clear to me now........
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Osu Dent, nah our Shihan is a Kiwi  And through out the world of Seido and Kyokushin based Karate, Kiwis (New Zealanders) seem to be reknown for being crazy when it comes to their training.
Shihan Geordie trained under one of the most highly reverred teachers Renzie Hanham now Hanshi, at Seido shibu in Christchurch. one of the only buildings still standing after the big earthquake. Must be the immense amount of spirit in that place.
Osu
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02-27-2012, 10:07 PM
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Always thought the essay was a bunch of B/S myself....
I think someone started it long ago to add a little extra to the test and years latter its still around.
I/we don't use it at all, but if it is used for your test do your best!
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Originally Posted by gc33
The purpose of an "essay" as I understand it is for your seniors ie sensei Shihans etc to see how you are thinking at the given level. There is no right or wrong answers. The question I have posted here is just an interesting one, I am wrong t as in asking anyone for their help and I apologise for that,more seeing how you think on these sort of questions. Spirits comment is bang on the money....
fre, The four "sicknesses" of martial arts as seen by the old swordsman of Japan are : Fear, Doubt,worry and Surprise.......now im just soul searching, and contemplating on how these are or do affect me. So far each and every one of them fit in leading up to my shodan...LOL!
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