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[bobh]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...greatest-sport

[powerof0ne]

Interesting but I want drug testing done on him because he has tested positive in the past for using illegal substances.

If you ever fight somebody that you think is on anabolic substances (steroids, duh) fight cautious for about 5 minutes and let themselves "fizzle out"..that is if they're not stacking right. They will get dehydrated faster then somebody not on steroids, typically and cardio will go down the drain.

I have never took the crap and try to keep stuff out of my body that might harm the family jewels (I was about to say something racier and funny but actually thought first for once :O).

[harukaze]

Originally Posted by powerof0ne

Interesting but I want drug testing done on him because he has tested positive in the past for using illegal substances.

If you ever fight somebody that you think is on anabolic substances (steroids, duh) fight cautious for about 5 minutes and let themselves "fizzle out"..that is if they're not stacking right. They will get dehydrated faster then somebody not on steroids, typically and cardio will go down the drain.

I have never took the crap and try to keep stuff out of my body that might harm the family jewels (I was about to say something racier and funny but actually thought first for once :O).

Huh, what was that you said about Team Hammer House?

But back to topic at hand, I'm interested to see how Pudzianowski does. He definitely has physicality on his side

[powerof0ne]

Originally Posted by harukaze

Huh, what was that you said about Team Hammer House?

But back to topic at hand, I'm interested to see how Pudzianowski does. He definitely has physicality on his side

hahaha! Well you know what they say, "if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck.."

I actually fought somebody once that tested positive for steroids about 4 months after he fought me. Coincidentally he gassed out after the first round and yes, I won I won't lie though, when he took off his robe I was a bit intimidated wondering what I got myself in but I still gave it my all.

I don't know what it is but I've known quite a few people in MMA/BJJ personally that have or still do steroids. I even trained with a shito ryu karateka that I'm thinking may have been on steroids because it sure as hell would explain a lot of his actions and muscular build.

I'm interested to see how it is and I do believe people make mistakes and am not condemning somebody that has tested positive for steroids as long as they don't keep doing it.

[polarbearfighter]

the article says: "Pudzianowski has trained in Kyokushin Karate since he was eleven, and is currently a fourth kyu green belt. "

Implying that he is still training Kyokushin.
Aren't you banned from being member of a kyokushin organization if you are found guilty of using steroids?

[kakatootoshi]

Originally Posted by polarbearfighter

the article says: "Pudzianowski has trained in Kyokushin Karate since he was eleven, and is currently a fourth kyu green belt. "

Implying that he is still training Kyokushin.
Aren't you banned from being member of a kyokushin organization if you are found guilty of using steroids?

The big tournaments have doping tests. But as long as he does not compete I think no one will kick him out even if he uses steroid.

[FredInChina]

Originally Posted by kakatootoshi

(...)I think no one will kick him out even if he uses steroid.

Hummm - wondering if one consequence of the split is that there will always be one to bring in someone undesired elsewhere?

but a drift off the thread here - back on topic!
The guy looks a formidable athlete!
Osu!

[kakatootoshi]

Originally Posted by FredInChina

Hummm - wondering if one consequence of the split is that there will always be one to bring in someone undesired elsewhere?

I did not specifically mean he, just anyone that uses steroid, if he does not fight in tournaments (or fights in tournament with no doping tests) and if he does not tell, people will not find out and that is why they do not kick him out.

And does people get kicked out using drugs in Kyokushin? I know there are punishments like being banned from fighting in tournaments or other disciplinary actions but excommunication in Kyokushin are always if not in every case politcally motivated.

[Steffen]

Is this fight still on?

http://www.kyokushin4life.com/forums...z+Pudzianowski

[49ers1970]

Is Mariusz Pudzianowski competing in a Knockdown tournament or MMA? As far as him being banned from either event due to past steroid abuse?......It is a known fact that former Kyokushin fighters turned Seidokaikan fighters, the late Andy Hug, Kakuda etc.
had taken steroids. Andy Hug was 185lbs. when he fought in the World Tournament and
was about 215-220lbs. during his years as a K-1 contender. Kakuda was solid as a Kyokushin fighter with a smooth type of musculature. He decided to come out of retirement in his late thirties up until his mid-40's. How do you explain his extremely ripped physique at an older age? Either way, I wish the best for Mariusz. I think some of his strongman type training and more of a bodyweight conditioning routine would serve him better in the physical conditioning aspect of his training instead of the heavy powerlifting and Olympic style weightlifting he has done in the past. This not including his knockdown or MMA type training depending upon what event he is competing in.
Also, he would need to do a lot of interval sprints/runs as well. Probably trim down to 260lbs. from his 290lb. frame. One must also remember, not only is Mariusz a Kyokushin Green belt, but he also has 8 years experience on the Polish boxing circuit. I hope Mariusz can eliminate the steroid abuse so he does not wind up like Brock Lesnar, Andy Hug etc.

[Mishima]

It is a known fact that former Kyokushin fighters turned Seidokaikan fighters, the late Andy Hug, Kakuda etc.
had taken steroids. Andy Hug was 185lbs. when he fought in the World Tournament and
was about 215-220lbs. during his years as a K-1 contender.

No it´s not a known fact, it if is, give me that fact then with good back up.

[49ers1970]

Osu! Mishima,
It is a fact. One of my colleagues, Sensei Brian Wright is a former Seidokaikan representative from New Jersey. He was under former Knockdown fighter,
Arne Soldewedel's banner in the New York Seidokaikan branch. However,
Brian had a falling out with Arne and started his own Eastern Sun Academy karate
school in New Jersey. Arne eventually had a falling out with Ishii and no longer trains
in organized martial arts. He resides in Japan as a lawyer.
I do not believe currently that an American Seidokaikan branch exists as a result of this breakup, however this is always subject to change.
Prior to this, Arne Soldewedel was a close friend of Andy Hug and used to frequent
Andy's Seidokaikan dojo in Switzerland. He used to train with and coach many of the
Seidokaikan greats including Andy, Jean Riviere etc. He has personally observed Andy's daily training habits and lifestyle outside of his training. Andy Hug died of Leukemia and other health reasons. Persistent steroid abuse can sometimes cause symptoms of leukemia. Look this up. There are great knockdown champions who lead a clean lifestyle and train and eat naturally, while others try to take shortcuts. These same facts apply in other sports as well. Regardless, I respect them all, so try not to come across that I am bashing the champions, which I am not. If there is a truth, and this is an open forum,
I will state the facts as I see them in a tactful, but straightforward manner. If you want to verify these facts, try to contact Sensei Brian at his Eastern Sun Academy website.
I do not know Arne's contact info. In all honesty, they might deny these claims, as they do not want to have to deal with the politics within the Seidokaikan org. such as a lawsuit. However, you can do your own research and come up with your own conclusions. Look at the 1987 World Open, Andy is in fact 185lbs. In K-1, he is 215lbs. bottom line.Another guy you might want to contact who is a neutral party is former K-1 kickboxer, Michael McDonald who trained in Andy's Switzerland gym for a while before splitting from him. Hope this helps. Just remember, do your own research, but do not
get my name involved in the mix. I am just stating facts based on legit. sources.
Hope this helps.
Osu!

[Mishima]

Originally Posted by 49ers1970

Osu! Mishima,
It is a fact. One of my colleagues, Sensei Brian Wright is a former Seidokaikan representative from New Jersey. He was under former Knockdown fighter,
Arne Soldewedel's banner in the New York Seidokaikan branch. However,
Brian had a falling out with Arne and started his own Eastern Sun Academy karate
school in New Jersey. Arne eventually had a falling out with Ishii and no longer trains
in organized martial arts. He resides in Japan as a lawyer.
I do not believe currently that an American Seidokaikan branch exists as a result of this breakup, however this is always subject to change.
Prior to this, Arne Soldewedel was a close friend of Andy Hug and used to frequent
Andy's Seidokaikan dojo in Switzerland. He used to train with and coach many of the
Seidokaikan greats including Andy, Jean Riviere etc. He has personally observed Andy's daily training habits and lifestyle outside of his training. Andy Hug died of Leukemia and other health reasons. Persistent steroid abuse can sometimes cause symptoms of leukemia. Look this up. There are great knockdown champions who lead a clean lifestyle and train and eat naturally, while others try to take shortcuts. These same facts apply in other sports as well. Regardless, I respect them all, so try not to come across that I am bashing the champions, which I am not. If there is a truth, and this is an open forum,
I will state the facts as I see them in a tactful, but straightforward manner. If you want to verify these facts, try to contact Sensei Brian at his Eastern Sun Academy website.
I do not know Arne's contact info. In all honesty, they might deny these claims, as they do not want to have to deal with the politics within the Seidokaikan org. such as a lawsuit. However, you can do your own research and come up with your own conclusions. Look at the 1987 World Open, Andy is in fact 185lbs. In K-1, he is 215lbs. bottom line.Another guy you might want to contact who is a neutral party is former K-1 kickboxer, Michael McDonald who trained in Andy's Switzerland gym for a while before splitting from him. Hope this helps. Just remember, do your own research, but do not
get my name involved in the mix. I am just stating facts based on legit. sources.
Hope this helps.
Osu!

With all due respect. None of it you mention is facts. It is only “he sad she sad they sad…etc”. That is not facts. Maybe Sensei Hug did take steroids or maybe he did not. But nobody knows for sure, it is all rumors which I wont believe it’s true until someone can prove it.

[Mishima]

by the way. I don´t think you try to bash anyone. Osu!

[49ers1970]

Osu! Mishima,
Like I said, do your own research before you come to conclusions. If you want,
I can give some contact info. if you do feel compelled to do so. You can give me
your personal e-mail and we can do this outside this website. Otherwise, I am not
going to waste my time arguing with you. You are Kyokushin and you are obviously
a big fan of Andy Hug. Andy Hug is an icon in knockdown fighting, especially in the
Kyokushin world as this is where Andy originated. I am also a huge fan of Andy Hug as well and I respect his accomplishments. Unfortunately, some of the all time greats in any sport have their flaws that lead to their demise. There are several examples, Mark McGuire(baseball), Mike Tyson, boxing etc. This does not take anything away from their greatness, it is just sad and unfortunate. If Andy were alive today, he would carry the Seidokaikan banner very well for the future generation of fighters and students alike.
As far as the he said she said nonsense you claim, like I said look up the signs and symptoms of leukemia and tie that in with steroid abuse. Beyond that, this is all I have to say and I will not reply anymore to any petty arguments from you. Like I said if you want possible contact info., give me your personal e-mail and we will take care of it in that manner.
Osu!

[Patryk]

Ok start from the beggining.
I am Polish. I know everythin about him, because in Poland we got a TV channel which shows the strongman competitions, and everythin which is happening around the strongmans. He got 2 houses, they are about 50m away from each one. Plus, he got his own gym, he do training sessions for few hours a day, he does NOT using drugs, and anythin, he's blood is testing systematicly (not sure how to spell that).
However, he got MMA fight on 11th of December I think, and he wouldn't be alloud to do it, without a reliable tests. He is strongest man in the world not because of the ethnic group or anythin. He just trains everyday, really hard for few years now.
Also, he trains martial arts like Kyokushin and boxing. Currently he's green belt in Kyokushin. I'm really looking forward to see his MMA fight, because the other guy is Marcin Najman, and he's just a profesional boxer, and he weights just 110kgs, plus he's quite fat, and everyone seen Mariusz, and he weights around 130kgs at the moment. Not everything on the site posted below is truth.
OSU

[SteveK]

Originally Posted by Patryk

Ok start from the beggining.
He is strongest man in the world not because of the ethnic group or anythin. He just trains everyday, really hard for few years now.
OSU

You guys are kidding yourselves if you think any of these guys are clean in anyway - everyone around them is using steroids and performancing enhancing drugs, they are involved in a culture, ie gym and training culture where these things are rampant - we are fed the illusion these guys like olympic athletes are gifted, and they may well be, but the facts are, no one anywhere competes at an elite level in a strength or speed event withoug using steroids - the poors guys that are caught are held up as examples the system is working, give me a break - good luck to him but bare me the crap about about his background and training hard

Osu

[Dent]

Osu!

Pro athletes juicing for money is understandable, if shortsighted. Amateurs doing it for plastic trophies is #&$* laughable!

If you've spent any time around athletes in almost any sport, you will have met the Quick-fix Larry characters. They never last, and good riddance to the lot of them.

Osu!

[marekmr]

One of the sports doctors who examined Russian Judoka Alexander Karenin 9-time heavy weight champion of the world and 3-time olympic champion also examined Mariusz Pudzianowski and concluded that they both have unusually big, strong joints. He called Mariusz a phenomenon. Mariusz is not active in Kyokushin anymore but has done some boxing. As you know he is training pretty hard to compete in MMA and has dropped from 145 kg to 130 kg. In my opinion he has a pretty good chance in MMA competitions.
OSU!

[amid]

Fight is over, Mariusz won, and i wonder what are your feelings about the result ? Personally I'm surprised with speed and explosivnes of Mariusz attacks. His power was pretty predictable Can't wait for his next fights, for sure it's going to be exciting.
Osu!