Styles, techniques, similarities and differences

[garyu]

Hi all! Started my karate journey with Kyokushin, although haven't been practising for that long. When it comes to karate I feel that Kyokushin is what I want to train (some of the offshoots styles look interesting too, perhaps just bying into the hype a little bit). Anyway, in attempt to expand my knowledge about karate I've been watching some other "traditional karate" styles. Although I'm impressed with both similarities and differences between these and Kyokushin I don't want to crosstrain with other styles and mix things up, but would really like to understand the differences, and the ideas behind those. I'm not yet a very experienced karateka, so these are pretty basic questions. Please correct me if I'm wrong about things.

Gyaku Tsuki, in other styles I've seen low hikete, punching from the waist with a lot of hip rotation. What do you think about such a punch? I was thinking ok, but if it's not optimal for fighting then where did it develop from in the first place? when people had to depend on it. Is it a potentially more powerful technique? or is it all about kihon philosphy? because when blocking Gedan Barai for ex, the body wasn't turned into the block with a 45 degree angle, the way it's done in kyokushin. Again there was hip rotation, and a somewhat elastic snappy look and feel about the block. Many of the techniques were short and fast so was wondering if this type of kihon would be more effectively applied to a real fighting situation. Also understand that a block is a punch and a punch is a block and circular movements generate power, so maybe not. What do you think? Any ideas, thoughts about this?

Osu!

[ichigeki31]

let me just answer your question in the simplest way ,MAS OYAMA used to train in many traditional styles of karate ,he took the techiniques and modified them into what would be more effective in real full -contact fighting becuase the other styles did not concentrate on tfighting he took techniques from many styles and improved them for eg :the hikite,in kyokushin it is high while in traditional it is low ,when the hikite is high the muscles are a bit more contracted then in the low hikite ,so when it is high you dont have to waste any extra energy in raising the hand to the mid part of the body ,and another example is the mawashi in traditional karate it is done from the inside while in kyokushin it has similarity to muay thai it come from the outside makes half a circle while attacking so there well be full force in the attack osu!!!!

[garyu]

Thank you for the reply. I'm greatful for all that Mas Oyama did to develop karate. He also proved it works. Yes maybe other styles did not concentrate on full contact fighting, it's just when asking "traditionalists" why they do things this way or that way I usually get the answer back that "because these things has been tested through time". And if that's the case I just don't want to be ignorant to the way things could be done. Kyokushin techniques seem solid to me, just trying to keep an open mind and try to understand why Mas Oyama chose to do things one way over the other. You cleared things out a bit. Thanks again. Osu!

[Sensation Black]

Originally Posted by garyu

Gyaku Tsuki, in other styles I've seen low hikete, punching from the waist with a lot of hip rotation. What do you think about such a punch? I was thinking ok, but if it's not optimal for fighting then where did it develop from in the first place? when people had to depend on it. Is it a potentially more powerful technique?
Osu!

I personaly think that the gyaku tsuki (if correctly done)
is the most powerful tsuki in karate.

the problem that many karatekas have is that they aren't able to make use of this technik because they are practising it way too static.

oss