Jodan Uke - wrist exposed or not

**tmd** · 08-08-2008, 11:05 PM

Just watched the Karate Warriors post which features Matsui, an absolute legend and Kyokushin through and through but it raised a question for me and at about 30 seconds plus - they perform and teach Jodan Uke with their wrists exposed i.e. with their knuckles pointing toward them - we have always been taught that the Kyokushin way is to protect this vital area and block on the bone on the opposite side - which is right?

Lucy · 08-08-2008, 11:13 PM

Oh dear! Definately NOT wrist exposed! It's weaker. Never been taught that way. Always block with the side of the wrist/forearm, bone if you like. Plus if your defending against a knife your going to slice through the artery blocking like that.

seienchin · 08-08-2008, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucy

Oh dear! Definately NOT wrist exposed! It's weaker. Never been taught that way. Always block with the side of the wrist/forearm, bone if you like. Plus if your defending against a knife your going to slice through the artery blocking like that.

Absolutely agree with Lucy. I have actually seen someone after a knife defence who actually knew what he was doing. The top of his arm was sliced and diced from defensive wounds, and the vulnerable underside with arteries and nerves was intact and fine.

**tmd** · 08-08-2008, 11:28 PM

Well thank God for that! I though I'd been going mad these last few minutes!

There I am Kyokushin mostly trained since 1988 always wrist inside and then theres this Vid with this legend of Kyokushin on it wrist out

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Thank you laddies I can head off to sleep now happy in the knowledge that I'd been doing it right, any one got a number for Shihan Matsui, I think someone needs to have a word

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seienchin · 08-08-2008, 11:35 PM

I'm sure he'll read it himself when he logs in here. Doesn't everyone??

**tmd** · 08-09-2008, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by seienchin

I'm sure he'll read it himself when he logs in here. Doesn't everyone??

Osu! seienchin

I'd not thought this through had I! I hope he understands I only pointed this out as a way of achieving a greater understand of our art (grovel, grovel

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**jcbel** · 08-09-2008, 12:21 AM

Yes I was taught not to block with the wrist out too for the same reasons above!

Dent · 08-09-2008, 04:54 AM

Osu!

I think there is different emphasis for the kids. I've trained with Matsui Kancho more than once, and not seen him overdo the twist. It may just be a teaching aid to emphasize the movement.

On the adult level, a block isn't always a block. I've enjoyed using Jodan Uke as a parry, a catch, a break, a strike and on.

Osu!

**tmd** · 08-09-2008, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Dent

Osu!

I think there is different emphasis for the kids. I've trained with Matsui Kancho more than once, and not seen him overdo the twist. It may just be a teaching aid to emphasize the movement.

On the adult level, a block isn't always a block. I've enjoyed using Jodan Uke as a parry, a catch, a break, a strike and on.

Osu!

We'll that's what I thought but then in the next scene is him and two BB's doing it again!

Dent · 08-10-2008, 07:12 AM

Osu!

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Originally Posted by tmd

We'll that's what I thought but then in the next scene is him and two BB's doing it again!

Well, then I really don't know.

Maybe there is some secret beyond my limited understanding.

Osu!

**tmd** · 08-10-2008, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Dent

Osu!

Well, then I really don't know.

Maybe there is some secret beyond my limited understanding.

Osu!

Welcome to my World Dent

**jcbel** · 08-12-2008, 12:57 AM

I don't think this world is exclusive to either of you.

Dent · 08-12-2008, 03:10 PM

Osu!

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I don't think this world is exclusive to either of you.

Typical. Try to start an exclusive club, and suddenly everyone wants in!

Osu!

**hasbeen** · 08-12-2008, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by seienchin

Absolutely agree with Lucy. I have actually seen someone after a knife defence who actually knew what he was doing. The top of his arm was sliced and diced from defensive wounds, and the vulnerable underside with arteries and nerves was intact and fine.

OSU!! ladies right as usual!!

Lucy · 08-12-2008, 07:42 PM

I do have some moments when my brain engages!

**jcbel** · 08-13-2008, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Dent

Typical. Try to start an exclusive club, and suddenly everyone wants in!

Did I say anything about joining Dent?

**tmd** · 08-13-2008, 12:23 PM

AAAAHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just opened the link on the Power Karate http://www.kyokushin4life.com/forums...-new-post.html thread to Jodan Uke and Soke Cook is showing the tech wrist exposed

, he then uses it wrist exposed against a strike but wrist protected (it seems - not very clear) when attacked with a batton. I find these books fantastic and Soke Cook another exceptional MA so why is it shown this way in his book

**hasbeen** · 08-13-2008, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by tmd

AAAAHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just opened the link on the Power Karate http://www.kyokushin4life.com/forums...-new-post.html thread to Jodan Uke and Soke Cook is showing the tech wrist exposed

, he then uses it wrist exposed against a strike but wrist protected (it seems - not very clear) when attacked with a batton. I find these books fantastic and Soke Cook another exceptional MA so why is it shown this way in his book

osu tmd! i`ve seen people from other styles blocking in this way, veins etc exposed which appears to be their norm........rather like kyokushin walks forward in a straight line..(to avoid being swept) other styles walk forward in a zig zag..when i asked them why i was told...protecting groin.

could it be just a gentle difference in style..i am not sure if the books/instructors are kyokushin?

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