Japanese name for the "brazilian kick"

[Martin H]

What realy is the correct name for the brazilian kick (occationaly called the "kyokushin" kick by kickboxers)?

It is called the brazilian kick because it became well known when used by fighters like Filho and Ademir Da Costa (mostly DaCosta since he was active long bofore Filho).
Kickboxers call it the Kyokushin kick because they originaly seen it done by kyokushin fighters (even if they try to copy it now).

Tzukamoto (IKO2 champion) calls it Maha geri.
Filho called it Kubi geri when he visited my country before the split. Kubi geri is also a name for jodan mawashi geri in some of sosais old books. (kubi=throat)
I have also been taught it under the name sankaku geri (=triangle kick. Describing the ^ movement of the foot). But that name also describes a inside kick to the thight (standard technique name in ashihara, but also used in kyokushin on occation.)

Has anyone heard any other names for it?

[kyokushin4life]

This is an interesting topic

Joudan Uchioroshi Geri?

Joudan = high
Uchioroshi = goes down
geri = kick

You know one of the basic strikes technique in which you strike down on your opponent's head with a Shotei? The move is called "Uchioroshi".

So I'm just guessing that the kick may be called "Joudan Uchioroshi geri". lol.

[powerof0ne]

I've heard it called sankaku geri a lot in my "neck of the woods" but always felt this was wrong since I've also heard sankaku used for the "triangle" submission in jujutsu.
Great topic, any ideas or suggestions, anyone?

[kakatootoshi]

Not bragging, but I am the authority in naming this kick

In japan, for IKO-Matsui fans or K-1 fans, the kick is pronounced as "ba-ji-li-an(as in "answer")-kit-gu". It is simply the japanese way of saying "Brazilian Kick".

In japan, for Shinkyokushinkai or Tsukamoto fans, the kick is pronounced as "ma-ha-geh-li"(mach geri). It is used to suggest that the kick is as fast as sound travels.

Sometimes the japanese also call it "ta-teh-geh-li"(tate geri). It means an "upright(kicking downwards) kick". "Tate" is same as "Ken-tate"(knuckle push-ups)

In Brazil, the kick is called "kubi-geri"(dunno the exact pronounciation in Protuguese), which means "neck kick"

OSU!

[stalvl]

just call it brazilian kick How is brazil in japanese? So call it Brazilian (japanese) kick (geri)

[daisukey]

Originally Posted by stalvl

just call it brazilian kick How is brazil in japanese? So call it Brazilian (japanese) kick (geri)

They pronouce it 'Burajirian Kick'.

[Martin H]

somehow using pidgin japanese that is actualy pidgin english for "Brazilian" kick appeals to my sense of humor:-)
But I dont think I will use it (not with a straight face).

Ohwell, Guess I follow Tzukamoto´s example and calls it Maha geri. Although calling it "mach" kick since it travels at "superosonic speed" is not ideal either.

[alan]

Two of my old sempais were ushi dechis in the dojo of Shihan Isobe back in the early 90's. At that time, when they got back from, Brazil we always called the kick kobe geri - "kick to the neck". That was the name used in Brazil and Shihan Filho (back then he was not a shihan) used it when visiting Sweden.

[powerof0ne]

Originally Posted by Martin H

What realy is the correct name for the brazilian kick (occationaly called the "kyokushin" kick by kickboxers)?

It is called the brazilian kick because it became well known when used by fighters like Filho and Ademir Da Costa (mostly DaCosta since he was active long bofore Filho).
Kickboxers call it the Kyokushin kick because they originaly seen it done by kyokushin fighters (even if they try to copy it now).

Tzukamoto (IKO2 champion) calls it Maha geri.
Filho called it Kubi geri when he visited my country before the split. Kubi geri is also a name for jodan mawashi geri in some of sosais old books. (kubi=throat)
I have also been taught it under the name sankaku geri (=triangle kick. Describing the ^ movement of the foot). But that name also describes a inside kick to the thight (standard technique name in ashihara, but also used in kyokushin on occation.)

Has anyone heard any other names for it?

I'm not really sure if "kickboxers" copied it from Kyokushin, or all kickboxers have. I know this kick has been done in Muay Thai and some styles of Tae Kwon Do. I just now noticed this comment or I would have replied to it much earlier. Of course I have seen this kick done a few different ways but in Muay Thai I have heard it called a crocodile's tail whip or just "whip kick". I'm not sure what some of the TKD people call it but do know that some of them do this kick.
You might be right but I personally was seeing this kick done more often in muay thai before I did in any knockdown karate competition.

[kakatootoshi]

Dear powerof0ne,
For crocodile kick I perosnally do not think it is copied from Kyokushin. My reason is that this crocodile kick was published in muay thai manuals in the 70's (and even before that). But in kyokushin it was first used by Shihan Admeir da Costa in the 80's and it has not become a "craze" until being popularized by fighters like Filho and Feistosa in the mid-late 90's.
And, as a matter of fact, a crocodile kick looks a lot different from a brazilian kick. I think there is more bending or knee in a brazilian kick.

OSU!

[Kyokushin555]

So, would this be considered as a drop kick? ops:

[daisukey]

A muaythai fighter "Samkor" does funky kicks. His video is in the multimedia section. It would be interesting to hear from senpai/sensei Glaube/Ryuji Isobe/Filho how they got theirs..

[Dim]

Does anyone have footage of this kick being executed (only the kick, as i have to small a download limit to watch too many full fights on the net )?

[cold]

In Egypt we have come to call it some 15 years ago "Mawashi Ma'looba" or in English, an Upside-down Mawashi, we used it to go over someone's defense and strike...very sneaky!!

I was very surprised when I saw the fuss that was made over a kick we thought we had invented some time ago!!

Oh when I say "we" I mean a group of only about 5 persons.

[kakatootoshi]

Dear Dim,
This is an old clip of Tsukamoto taken at the Shibuya Dojo some years ago doing the kick.
http://home.catv.ne.jp/dd/m_suna/keri1.htm

OSU!

[Dim]

Thanks, from that clip though it looks more like a normal jodan mawashi geri to me :? (maybe missing frames inbetween?)

Osu

[kakatootoshi]

Dear Dim,
Well I think the clip is alright for me. The most important feature (that is different from normal jodan) that the clip shows are the "decendng kick" and "the back facing the oppoent when the kick finishes".

OSU!

[Dim]

Perhaps its just the way i do jodan mawashi geris, i train on carpet so if i try to do a 'full' power kick i end up with my back to my opponent (just keep spinning around in a circle) and it end up being decending so my foot gets to the ground quickly so i dont loose balance. :?
So essentially brazial kick is the name for jodan mawashi geri gone wrong?

[daisukey]

Osu, Dim. you can say Brazillian Kick is another kind of Jodanmawashi geri but it's not the same at all. It's harder to block because it takes a different route to normal jodanmawashigeris. Osu.

If you can afford some megabytes to download, go to youtube.com and search for "This is kyokushin" Ryuji Isobe knocking out his opponent with his Jodan mawashi geri at 1:41. That's what we call 'brazillian kick".

But yer there are many types of Jodanmwawashi geris. Osu.

[Dim]

Osu, thanks daisukey, now i understand. If i had to put into japanese terms i'ld call it, as it is in the video:Oi Haisoku Soto Oroshi Mawashi Geri (leading-leg instep outside-in decending round-house kick) but thats a bit of a mouth full.

Great video too

Osu